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8 Week Bulk, 4 Week Cut/PCT

cspm42

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Hello, first post new to the site. Wondering what the effects would be of a first time SARM cycle, been doing as much research as I can on here but have just a few clarifications that maybe someone who is more experienced than me can clear up.

Age 20.5, 6' 3", 185 lbs and I would estimate 11-12% BF. Been training since high school, much more seriously in the last 2 or so years. Always been able to get lean (Top 4 abs visible), but never been able to get the completely shredded look. Coming off around 8 weeks of pretty strict dieting 900 calorie deficit (A cheat meal once a week), with 500 calories cardio 4-5 days a week. More cardio to compensate if a unhealthy meal is ate. At the beginning, weighed 195-200. Now leaner but have lost significant muscle mass and still do not have a fully visible 6 pack.

Goal is to initially bulk while hopefully slightly lowering BF%, then focus on maintaining that mass and cutting BF% to the 7-8% range towards the end. This is the 12 week cycle and pct I have determined would meet this criteria. Bulk lean mass for 8 weeks, then transition into a cut that would end at the end of pct. Not looking to become massive, would like to achieve a more natural look however with more muscle maintained at a low BF%. Would love some feedback/suggestions!


Lean Bulk

1-8 LGD-4033 5mg
1-8 S4 50 mg (Split a.m. p.m.)
1-8 Aromasin
1-8 Hcgenerate (?)

Cut

6-12 Albuterol 24 mg
6/8-12 T3 Cycled up to 50 mcg
9-12 Osta 25 mg

Pct

9-12 Clomid 25 mg
9-12 Unleashed/Post Cycle
9-12 Forma Stanzol


Side Notes:

1. Please do not recommend GW. I understand the studies are controversial, but I would like to air on the side of caution.

2. Would like to lean very far on the side of caution and going overboard in terms of Pct and Gyno safety etc. If there is anything else you recommend adding in this regard please inform me!

3. Also interested in Mk-677 to add to this cycle. However, due to the young age I am hesitant. I also do not want to take any possibility of risking a distended stomach or other complications.


Really appreciate anyone who takes the time to help me out on this!
 
So let me get this straight....you're afraid to use GW because of a bunk flawed study (even those it's completely safe and actually has health benefits) but want to use a thyroid hormone (T3) that fucks with your thyroid, is catabolic and eats muscle?

Your cycle is too short. 8 weeks is not long enough. Needs to be 12. 4 weeks if ostarine will do nothing for you.

Also lose the unleashed, post cycle, and hcgenerate garbage. You don't need any of that crap.

I do t know where you were planning on getting your sarms but I hope it isn't sarms1 based on these other crap products you are talking about. The only source we recommend for sarms is www.sarmsx.com
 
OP, It sounds like you are not ready for this. You're 20 years old and I don't think you fully grasp the concept of everything. It's a good thing you came here and asked beforehand but you need to do ALOT more research before you begin. No need for Albuterol and T3 Mix. Substitute that with GW or Sarms Stack and be done with it. No need for all the extras
 
Hello, first post new to the site. Wondering what the effects would be of a first time SARM cycle, been doing as much research as I can on here but have just a few clarifications that maybe someone who is more experienced than me can clear up.

Age 20.5, 6' 3", 185 lbs and I would estimate 11-12% BF. Been training since high school, much more seriously in the last 2 or so years. Always been able to get lean (Top 4 abs visible), but never been able to get the completely shredded look. Coming off around 8 weeks of pretty strict dieting 900 calorie deficit (A cheat meal once a week), with 500 calories cardio 4-5 days a week. More cardio to compensate if a unhealthy meal is ate. At the beginning, weighed 195-200. Now leaner but have lost significant muscle mass and still do not have a fully visible 6 pack.

Goal is to initially bulk while hopefully slightly lowering BF%, then focus on maintaining that mass and cutting BF% to the 7-8% range towards the end. This is the 12 week cycle and pct I have determined would meet this criteria. Bulk lean mass for 8 weeks, then transition into a cut that would end at the end of pct. Not looking to become massive, would like to achieve a more natural look however with more muscle maintained at a low BF%. Would love some feedback/suggestions!


Lean Bulk

1-8 LGD-4033 5mg
1-8 S4 50 mg (Split a.m. p.m.)
1-8 Aromasin
1-8 Hcgenerate (?)

Cut

6-12 Albuterol 24 mg
6/8-12 T3 Cycled up to 50 mcg
9-12 Osta 25 mg

Pct

9-12 Clomid 25 mg
9-12 Unleashed/Post Cycle
9-12 Forma Stanzol


Side Notes:

1. Please do not recommend GW. I understand the studies are controversial, but I would like to air on the side of caution.

2. Would like to lean very far on the side of caution and going overboard in terms of Pct and Gyno safety etc. If there is anything else you recommend adding in this regard please inform me!

3. Also interested in Mk-677 to add to this cycle. However, due to the young age I am hesitant. I also do not want to take any possibility of risking a distended stomach or other complications.


Really appreciate anyone who takes the time to help me out on this!
im sorry but one, you are telling people that have been doing this for so many years, myself included who has been studying sarms BEFORE THEY EVEN CAME TO THE PUBLIC, yet you act like you know more... LOLL okay bro... im sorry im not young enough to know everything... your cycle is a fucking mess... you have it loaded with so much garbage and shit, i cant believe it... i'll let you go ahead and do it how you want since you seem to think you know it all... good luck to you... wtf do i know?
 
Sorry, really did not mean to come off that way. I barely know anything compared to many people on these forums in regard to SARMS, and that's why I came here first so I could lean on the opinions of people more experienced than me before I did something dumb and harmed my body. Obviously I have a lot more to learn, and I will hold off on taking anything. I have been looking at other sites that were pushing the products like HcGenerate, unleashed, etc and saying how essential they were so I included them just as an extra precaution but now I realize that was not necessary. I have been doing research, but it was on sites giving me bad guidance and I will be more careful where I get my information from in the future. I do not plan on taking any SARMS until at least a month from now, and was going to use that time in between to research so I know exactly what I am doing before I put anything in my body. I plan on spending the extra money to get the quality of sarmsx.

Will you tell me if this is more on the right track? I understand the basic characteristics of SARMS and the different results they have, but I need to learn more about the pct/support that must be run with them. I tried to throw out all the garbage products, would one of you help me or tell me what information I am lacking and need to learn more of so I can have a starting point on where to better educate myself


1-12 S4 50mg split am pm
1-12 LGD-4033 8mg
1-12 LiquiAro on hand if gyno signs appear
9-12 DAA

13-16 LiquiClo 50/50/25/25
13-16 LiquiNol 40/20/20/20
13-16 Possibly a natural test booster if I am feeling down

Also, as I am worried about my suppression as it is my first cycle I was considering substituting LGD-4033 for OSTA and maybe lowering my time to only 8 weeks.

Really do appreciate the help
 
Sorry, really did not mean to come off that way. I barely know anything compared to many people on these forums in regard to SARMS, and that's why I came here first so I could lean on the opinions of people more experienced than me before I did something dumb and harmed my body. Obviously I have a lot more to learn, and I will hold off on taking anything. I have been looking at other sites that were pushing the products like HcGenerate, unleashed, etc and saying how essential they were so I included them just as an extra precaution but now I realize that was not necessary. I have been doing research, but it was on sites giving me bad guidance and I will be more careful where I get my information from in the future. I do not plan on taking any SARMS until at least a month from now, and was going to use that time in between to research so I know exactly what I am doing before I put anything in my body. I plan on spending the extra money to get the quality of sarmsx.

Will you tell me if this is more on the right track? I understand the basic characteristics of SARMS and the different results they have, but I need to learn more about the pct/support that must be run with them. I tried to throw out all the garbage products, would one of you help me or tell me what information I am lacking and need to learn more of so I can have a starting point on where to better educate myself


1-12 S4 50mg split am pm
1-12 LGD-4033 8mg
1-12 LiquiAro on hand if gyno signs appear
9-12 DAA

13-16 LiquiClo 50/50/25/25
13-16 LiquiNol 40/20/20/20
13-16 Possibly a natural test booster if I am feeling down

Also, as I am worried about my suppression as it is my first cycle I was considering substituting LGD-4033 for OSTA and maybe lowering my time to only 8 weeks.

Really do appreciate the help
You have this a lot better but it needs some tweaking. Here is how it is setup. Get everything from www.sarmsx.com

1-12 LGD 10mg per day dosed in the am
1-12 S4 50mg per day split 25mg am and 25mg 4-6 hours later

9-12 DAA

PCT

Clomid 50/25/25/25
GW 20mg per day
 
Sorry, really did not mean to come off that way. I barely know anything compared to many people on these forums in regard to SARMS, and that's why I came here first so I could lean on the opinions of people more experienced than me before I did something dumb and harmed my body. Obviously I have a lot more to learn, and I will hold off on taking anything. I have been looking at other sites that were pushing the products like HcGenerate, unleashed, etc and saying how essential they were so I included them just as an extra precaution but now I realize that was not necessary. I have been doing research, but it was on sites giving me bad guidance and I will be more careful where I get my information from in the future. I do not plan on taking any SARMS until at least a month from now, and was going to use that time in between to research so I know exactly what I am doing before I put anything in my body. I plan on spending the extra money to get the quality of sarmsx.

Will you tell me if this is more on the right track? I understand the basic characteristics of SARMS and the different results they have, but I need to learn more about the pct/support that must be run with them. I tried to throw out all the garbage products, would one of you help me or tell me what information I am lacking and need to learn more of so I can have a starting point on where to better educate myself


1-12 S4 50mg split am pm
1-12 LGD-4033 8mg
1-12 LiquiAro on hand if gyno signs appear
9-12 DAA

13-16 LiquiClo 50/50/25/25
13-16 LiquiNol 40/20/20/20
13-16 Possibly a natural test booster if I am feeling down

Also, as I am worried about my suppression as it is my first cycle I was considering substituting LGD-4033 for OSTA and maybe lowering my time to only 8 weeks.

Really do appreciate the help
all good bro, im happy to help you, for sure... Do yourself a HUGE favor though.. stay a million miles away from evolutionary before they contaminate you so bad, you drain your pockets on them for NOTHING... we will make sure you do not have any of that bull shit happen here bro... you are definitely on the right track... what i really love about what you posted is that you have aromasin on hand if needed... that is a must, whether they convert to estrogen a lot so much respect to you on that... i'll help you make this very easy... here are the links to purchase everything you need followed by the layout...

https://www.sarmsx.com/30-Off/30-lgd-4033

https://www.sarmsx.com/30-Off/30-s4-andarine

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=138



1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
9-12 d aspartic acid


Mini pct 13-16




clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day
 
Sounds great!! Any problems running sr9009 on top of this to help me lean out towards the end? Run it for either 6 or 8 weeks at 30 mg split into 6 doses starting a few weeks before the end of LGD/S4 and continuing through the pct.
 
Sounds great!! Any problems running sr9009 on top of this to help me lean out towards the end? Run it for either 6 or 8 weeks at 30 mg split into 6 doses starting a few weeks before the end of LGD/S4 and continuing through the pct.

Nice job keeping an open mind. That's goes far around here.

They still make Forma Stanzol?
 
20.5 years old man? You're definitely ready for sarmsx man. Lmao! Just fucking with you bro. But seriously take Rick and Dylan to heart. And stay away from NTBM and sarms1. We all have first hand insider knowledge of what a scam they are.


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Sounds great!! Any problems running sr9009 on top of this to help me lean out towards the end? Run it for either 6 or 8 weeks at 30 mg split into 6 doses starting a few weeks before the end of LGD/S4 and continuing through the pct.
There's no problem adding that at all bro, but I'd actually add gw in place of sr9009 if you cant run both for that purpose.

Lgd, gw, and s4 is a sweet stack. Adding sr9009 to that would enhance it even more

Add it to the above protocol and here is the dosage for both

1-12 GW 20mg per day dosed 30 minutes preworkout
1-12 sr9009 30mg per day (5mg dosed every 2-3 hours)
 
Sounds great!! Any problems running sr9009 on top of this to help me lean out towards the end? Run it for either 6 or 8 weeks at 30 mg split into 6 doses starting a few weeks before the end of LGD/S4 and continuing through the pct.
you absolutely can and should add it bro... you should really take it 12 weeks if you can and its non suppressive so its very desirable to add... definitely add it bro... here is the link... https://www.sarmsx.com/30-Off/30-stenabolic-SR9009
 
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