2nd cycle help

[nybodybuilder]

hello all.
thinking of doing my second cycle this spring..i reached out to everyone here for my first cycle which was test cyp only ~350 weekly, and had a great cycle with good gains. i am back now to start planning my second cycle. of courses taking 4 months off in between, time on = time off. i got off my last cycle in december and now i want to start planning my next cycle.

so my stats:
31 years old
weight: 178 lb
height 5-8
body fat ~12%
training - been training since a young age of 19, but really got serious about it after age 25. train about 5-6 times a week...i like training volume so i train a good 1.5 hrs to 2 hours.
previous cycle: 12 weeks sarms stack , i was taking lgd, s4,mk,gw for 12 weeks.
then did my first cycle of test cyp 350 weekly for 12 weeks.

my goals:make some good decent lean muscle mass gains/strength but keep the body fat low, i have a pretty good understanding about diet.

after doing a lot of reading and watching dylans videos i came up with this for my second cycle, as dylan suggested not to exceed 3 compounds, i was thinking test, deca and an oral.

1-12 test cyp 350 mg week
1-12 deca 300 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg every other day
1-12 caber .5 mg every three days
1-4 anadrol 50 mg day
1-4 cycle assist

pct 15-18

clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod

Thank you all in advance. hope to hear your responses.

 

[cmb5017]

I don't see anything wrong with that cycle..but Anadrol is rough just so u know

 

[RickRock]

hello all.
thinking of doing my second cycle this spring..i reached out to everyone here for my first cycle which was test cyp only ~350 weekly, and had a great cycle with good gains. i am back now to start planning my second cycle. of courses taking 4 months off in between, time on = time off. i got off my last cycle in december and now i want to start planning my next cycle.

so my stats:
31 years old
weight: 178 lb
height 5-8
body fat ~12%
training - been training since a young age of 19, but really got serious about it after age 25. train about 5-6 times a week...i like training volume so i train a good 1.5 hrs to 2 hours.
previous cycle: 12 weeks sarms stack , i was taking lgd, s4,mk,gw for 12 weeks.
then did my first cycle of test cyp 350 weekly for 12 weeks.

my goals:make some good decent lean muscle mass gains/strength but keep the body fat low, i have a pretty good understanding about diet.

after doing a lot of reading and watching dylans videos i came up with this for my second cycle, as dylan suggested not to exceed 3 compounds, i was thinking test, deca and an oral.

1-12 test cyp 350 mg week
1-12 deca 300 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg every other day
1-12 caber .5 mg every three days
1-4 anadrol 50 mg day
1-4 cycle assist

pct 15-18

clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod

Thank you all in advance. hope to hear your responses.

Pct needs a little bit of work bro. Here is what the full pct should look like

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/platinum-pct-stack

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK-2866 25mg ED
GW 20mg ED

 

[DylanGemelli]

i like the compounds chosen, just know that anadrol, which im sure you do, is on the harsher sides and you must be very aware of controlling estrogen with it...

when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…



here is the link to purchase the entire pct stack followed by the layout...

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=133&search=platinum

clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day




gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[nybodybuilder]

thank you all for the responses i will go for the platinum pct stack from sarmssx so that it includes mk and gw as well.
since this is only my second cycle should i switch anadrol to winstrol then? and maybe keep anadrol for a future cycle.

 

[cmb5017]

thank you all for the responses i will go for the platinum pct stack from sarmssx so that it includes mk and gw as well.
since this is only my second cycle should i switch anadrol to winstrol then? and maybe keep anadrol for a future cycle.

Man I'd rather see you on tbol tbh..it's the mildest of all and it gives great gains...I'd save Anadrol for a while..it's truly harsh bro

 

[nybodybuilder]

great so i can push tbol for 6 weeks then as well right?

 

[KODA24]

Man I'd rather see you on tbol tbh..it's the mildest of all and it gives great gains...I'd save Anadrol for a while..it's truly harsh bro

You like T-bol that much? What can I expect from it if I run it instead of Anadrol? Thanks bro. (Don't mean to high jack the thread.)

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[DylanGemelli]

tbol is excellent... i absolutely love tbol... its VERY VERY versatile... it can add very nice size, 10-15 pounds but its CLEAN and DRY... you can run it 6 weeks at 60 mg per day... winstrol and anadrol are my two favorite orals but tbol is right there with them

 

[jetblack14316]

Looks like a good cycle for a second one! You're going to be feeling great!



Sometimes I see aromasin recommend in a PCT and other times not.

I know exactly what aromasin does and how it wOrks, but what constitutes whether you include it in a PCT or not?




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[jetblack14316]

Hrmmm..[emoji848]


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[DylanGemelli]

Looks like a good cycle for a second one! You're going to be feeling great!



Sometimes I see aromasin recommend in a PCT and other times not.

I know exactly what aromasin does and how it wOrks, but what constitutes whether you include it in a PCT or not?




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aromasin protects against gyno rebound, which can absolutely occur with anything you run... you MUST keep estrogen lower or at bay in pct or you could sacrifice gains and recovery ON TOP of the fact it increases igf levels up to 78% which is HUGE for recovery

 

[jetblack14316]

aromasin protects against gyno rebound, which can absolutely occur with anything you run... you MUST keep estrogen lower or at bay in pct or you could sacrifice gains and recovery ON TOP of the fact it increases igf levels up to 78% which is HUGE for recovery

So you'd recommend aromasin all through PCT


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[DylanGemelli]

So you'd recommend aromasin all through PCT


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brother, i have never recommended one without it... unless its a sarms pct, then not necessary....

 

[DylanGemelli]

when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…



here is the link to purchase the entire pct stack followed by the layout...

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=133&search=platinum

clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day




gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[jetblack14316]

brother, i have never recommended one without it... unless its a sarms pct, then not necessary....

Okay, I wasn't implying you did. Just looking on clarification on your advice.

Thanks man


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[DylanGemelli]

Okay, I wasn't implying you did. Just looking on clarification on your advice.

Thanks man


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anytime bro... here, i have done several videos on pct... take a look.. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dylan+gemelli+pct