Cycle Log - Test/Deca/Dbol Classic

[ComstockZero]

Day 28

Stopped updating regularly just wasn't much to share. I am at 500 test / 280 deca and I've just finished 30mg/d dbol.

I got part of bloods today. I did patient ordered bloods and the testosterone panel isn't done yet but I was able to call in and get my other values. Protection was TUDCA, and cycle support from iron labs. I was also taking krill oil and a cholesterol supplement. I'll post a scan of my results when I have that but here's what I have:

26 ALT
27 AST

TRI 119
HDL 8
LDL 111
Ratio 17.9
Glucose 76

The HDL makes sense because last time I was at 11 on 420 test and no deca.

Here's all I'm gonna say about my liver values and the reps can come on here and Bash me all they want, this is a blood test. You want me to wear a GoPro for 4 weeks and watch me take your dbol or tbol... the last time I had questionable bloods on Pharmacom orals I got yelled at and like "what do you think we'd do, we get reviewed by anabolic minds and independent testing etc etc etc.". I don't know what to tell you except that I'm not buying anything from Pharmacom anymore. Before nationals in June, I'm gonna do this exact same cycle and dose on Pharma Lady and we'all just see. I'm a scientist, I design and integrate rocket engines into ballistic missiles. I do not need or want to make guesses or cast uniformed aspersions at people or companies. Data is data. That's all I'm gonna say.

Oh. I also gained no water. None. Maybe gained 3# in 4 wk. And I track my calories on a Fitbit I don't eat like a coked out super model, I'm a strongman. I eat everything in sight. I am always in surplus.

Anyway. Workouts are good. Making PRs.

 

[ComstockZero]

Here is my complete blood work up, taken on Day 28

 

[ComstockZero]

Since the dianabol didn't work out too well, I've decided to finish off the last 6 weeks of cycle with a very mild 20mg/d of oral winstrol. I am hoping that combined with my 280 deca, and at a moderate dose, I don't have too many problems with joint pain or aches. I'm anxious to see the hardening and recomposition, recovery, endurance benefits I've seen discussed with winstrol at low dose. There will be no tbol finisher. I am weighing adding 100mg/wk test prop in the final 3 weeks before comp. Another strongman I know had good results doing that.

 

[DylanGemelli]

you can still see some gain from winstrol at 20 mg per day... it wont be crazy but there will be some benefit there

 

[RickRock]

I've used winstrol at a low dose and it did very well for me. Little to no sides with all the benefits. Of course running normal dose gives you more pronounced benefits, but it does being on the sides for some people with joint pain, etc..

 

[ComstockZero]

Maybe it's in my head but 6d into this Winny and my endurance is noticeably higher when doing cardio. This is awesome.

 

[Jswole79]

I love winny. I too feel like I notice it immediately. I don't really experience any joint pain unless I overdo ais and dry out. It boosts my strength and mood considerable too. I'm not a fan of dbol it just makes me feel dirty. I ran it around 50mg though. Should have stayed around 30 like Dylan recommends. Maybe I'll try it again at that dose some day. Its the only thing I've taken that made me feel horrible though. Lol

 

[ComstockZero]

I love winny. I too feel like I notice it immediately. I don't really experience any joint pain unless I overdo ais and dry out. It boosts my strength and mood considerable too. I'm not a fan of dbol it just makes me feel dirty. I ran it around 50mg though. Should have stayed around 30 like Dylan recommends. Maybe I'll try it again at that dose some day. Its the only thing I've taken that made me feel horrible though. Lol

I am dropping my AI now that I'm off the dbol / it may not have been aromatizing anyway. I was using .5mg Arimidex EOD, I will drop to .5mg E3D. I don't seem to have much trouble with estrogen conversion beyond a certain point. I needed AI comparatively early on in TRT, after about a year and a half, but on cycle doses, it doesn't go up much more. So I'm lucky there.

 

[Jswole79]

I don't have much issues with estro either. I used to go by feel and always used arimidex with good results. I bought some aromasin and it tanks me so I take it once or twice a week and it keeps my numbers sometimes too low. I ran 500mg test with 50mg winny and it would tank me and dry me out at 12.5 eod. Went to 3 days got my blood work done and it was in the teens. I feel good around 30 otherwise I get cranky and have libido issues and feel lethargic. I now take it about every 4 days and feel pretty stable there. I've run 20-30mg winny since and felt like i got good results too.

 

[ComstockZero]

Halfway point. 6 weeks in, about 6w left. In 3 weeks, I will start jabbing 30mg Test Prop M/W/F. Frankly I refuse to jab every day. I don't mind a minor up and down. This is my substitute finisher for tbol since I don't trust it.

Weight is going up vascularity going up, and PRs. Biggest PR for me for strongman has been my yoke. I broke my c6 spinous process off on a 575# yoke back in May 2017. My yoke has always been weakest of my events. 2w ago I increased my PR from 450 to 480 for 30ft and Sunday, increased it again to 510 but for 50 ft! I then hit 400 for 100' which. Left my back DESTROYED. I have never had a back that sore. I went home after strongman and took a nap and woke up 3h later couldn't move! But no injury it was just sore and tight. Feeling great. Bodyweight up to 182.3. I need to float between 175 and 181. So I'll try to eat a bit cleaner until the meet.

 

[ComstockZero]

Started + 40mg Tsst Prop 3xWk today for a total of 620 Test in run up to the contest. As I said this a common strongman finisher.

Little bit of PIP. I combine all 3 jabs: test/deca blend, deca blend, test prop. The test/deca blend is Blend 4 from PCOM. So it's nandrolone deca, NPP, test deca and test phenylprop. The extra deca blend is Phenduren, which is 200 nandrolone deca and 75 NPP. I siphon it down to .5/wk. The only purpose of all this was to get my weekly Test to roughly 500 and my weekly deca to roughly half of that (although in reality it's 265-280, we are losing between .02 - .08 ml in the hub per 1ml). I already get 220 Test cyp from TRT doc. Easier to just keep doing that and getting their bloods. Adding the prop did cause some PIP but nothing like inj dbol. I'll be doing 40mg 3x/wk.

 

[ComstockZero]

7wk in. Feel great. I've added 75mg Test Prop E3D for the final 4 weeks before contest. That's going well.

But something else has come up. There's a record breakers event I've just learned of about 2w before comp. There's a National DL record in striking distance for my fed and weight class. Ive added 70mg Tbol ED for a 14d peak to that meet. I am using protection. I never stopped. We will see how this goes.

 

[ComstockZero]

I was on the fence about doing a record breakers event coming up but decided not to. Currently about 4 or 5 days into my tbol peak at 70mg/d, which will be for about 21 days. Feel great. Bit of arm as shoulder acne just now kicking up. Currently 6d shy of week 9. Gym energy very up since started tbol. Erections out of control. Sleep is ok not great. PIP on quad injections of test prop is unreal.

 

[ComstockZero]

10 February 2018

Week 11

Things are wrapping up on this cycle, I've started tapering down. Used all the Pharmacom Pharmamix 4, loved it, very smooth, no PIP. Used some P. Biotech Test Prop from PL. Also used Phenduren from PL, did some PL Winstrol tabs for the month of December (20mg/d for 30d), and finished on Tbo (80mg/d for 10 days).

Tbol finisher was rad, I got super strong, tons of libido and vascularity. Started to feel the Winny aches even at low dose towards the end. Test Prop had some PIP burn. In the last 4 weeks I spiked to a total of 650 test, and then 725 on a lot of Prop for contest week. I don't think I'll go that high again. I got wicked paranoid, moody. I was fighting with my GF every other day about stupid shit, accusing her cheating. She's just a remarkable woman, totally understood it was the juice. She jabs me. Put on a good solid 7-10 lbs, but I don't eat/train for a lot of size, mostly maximal strength. I got a bad cold right the week before the meet and that hindered me a bit, but I still set PRs.

For the next 5 injections (I do 3 injections per week), I'm cutting back until I've used up the last of ampule i'm on from Phenduren, and the last of the Test Prop and Pharmamix. It'll stretch the whole cycle out to about 14 weeks. 2 weeks later, I'm going to do a limited Nolvadex PCT to limit my estrogen absorption so I can keep my AI the same. I'm already at 1mg arimidex ED.

GF is also using ostarine, following Dylan's dosing video for women, just about to hit week 2. Excited to see how it goes. We did a DEXA scan together and I got 18.5% at 177.5#, she got 18.6% haha, at 123 lbs (she's 5'7, same as me). Very lean.

Already planning next cycle. I'm thinking a longer test/deca at medium dose. 320 test/200 deca ~ 16 weeks. Something like that. Lot of ideas right now.