Thyroid Problems?

[mickc1965]

Despite considering taking sr or gw do you advice me to take a full bloodwork?


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As @RickRock said you should increase calories back to maintenance for a couple of weeks hopefully to reset your metabolism and from there I personally would drop calories 250 to 500 kcals and aim for a weekly loss of between 0.5 and 1lb. I am currently cutting at body weight x13.5 (well 13 this and last week as deloading) but I alter my calories weekly based on my weekly weigh-in, the decreases are small on a weekly basis but quickly adds up after you have lost say 7 lbs particularly if the deficit is only 250 kcals.

 

[mickc1965]

My kcal is around 1700-2100 and I've an app on my iPhone and I track how much miles I did.. And whenever I do cardio or I have tennis practices I stay with my iPhone there to track it.. Sometimes is around 7 miles or more
But now I'm afraid... If my calories are low and I can't lose fat , should I just up the calories to restore my metabolism? Or decrease calories and increase burned calories? That's so hard being in this position


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How do you know for sure that you are not losing fat? Are you having your body fat levels measured by a professional with quality body fat calipers?

 

[SdBronco]

How many calories are you actually eating and for how long a period of time. What exactly are your macros? I see your weight but what is your actual bodyfat percentage?

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[JeffFran]

How many calories are you actually eating and for how long a period of time. What exactly are your macros? I see your weight but what is your actual bodyfat percentage?

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1700-2000kcal for 9 weeks or 10 weeks.. 45% protein , carbs and fats vary depending if it's a workout day or not , non working out day fats are 35-40% and carbs around 20-15% .. My body fat percentage i dint know that for sure .. I've gone to a pharmacy and it said 12% but I think I am around 15%


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[JeffFran]

How do you know for sure that you are not losing fat? Are you having your body fat levels measured by a professional with quality body fat calipers?

Because I didn't lose much weight and I see more definition and I can see my abs way better and more vascularity in forearms and a bit in shoulder and biceps but not much


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[JeffFran]

I can post an example of my diet on non working out and working out days to see if anything is wrong


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[Montgomery]

I don't understand why you asked that question buddy


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Uh.....maybe because of the website you are on......but what the fuck do I know.....

 

[JeffFran]

Uh.....maybe because of the website you are on......but what the fuck do I know.....

Website?? I didn't understand


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[Montgomery]

Website?? I didn't understand



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Are you kidding me....lol

Good luck to you.....I'm out of the thread

 

[JeffFran]

As @RickRock said you should increase calories back to maintenance for a couple of weeks hopefully to reset your metabolism and from there I personally would drop calories 250 to 500 kcals and aim for a weekly loss of between 0.5 and 1lb. I am currently cutting at body weight x13.5 (well 13 this and last week as deloading) but I alter my calories weekly based on my weekly weigh-in, the decreases are small on a weekly basis but quickly adds up after you have lost say 7 lbs particularly if the deficit is only 250 kcals.

I think it is a good solution but I also think it's better to wait for my bloodwork and then see what the problem really is


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[JeffFran]

Are you kidding me....lol

Good luck to you.....I'm out of the thread

Bro I really don't understand what you are trying to say here, it doesn't make any sense


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[Montgomery]

Bro I really don't understand what you are trying to say here, it doesn't make any sense


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You are on a SARMS/AAS information forum...ok....you are having problems with weight gain.....ok....I asked you if you are on a SARMS/AAS cycle....ok........Why WOULDn'T I ask that question of you if you are going weight and can't explain it?

Are you lost?.....

 

[RickRock]

I think it is a good solution but I also think it's better to wait for my bloodwork and then see what the problem really is


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There's nothing wrong with looking at bloodwork bro. I'm all for it, but I think it's pretty evident your metabolism is in the shitter right now. You can't diet that long at that caloric level and keep expecting repeatable results

 

[JeffFran]

You are on a SARMS/AAS information forum...ok....you are having problems with weight gain.....ok....I asked you if you are on a SARMS/AAS cycle....ok........Why WOULDn'T I ask that question of you if you are going weight and can't explain it?

Are you lost?.....

But no I'm not on sarms or aas, I'm only 160lbs and i wouldn't start a cycle in this condition of course . I am in this website because of Dylan .. I've watched his videos and he provided great info ! And I wanna be surround with people like me! That likes bodybuilding and love working out and knows how diet is important !


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[JeffFran]

There's nothing wrong with looking at bloodwork bro. I'm all for it, but I think it's pretty evident your metabolism is in the shitter right now. You can't diet that long at that caloric level and keep expecting repeatable results

So my approach was too extreme for a general person or maybe dieting that hard don't work on my body?


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[FigureMaster]

Definitly helpful bro! Maintenance calories x12 my body weight ? That's pretty much 2000kcal

Well I'm a female and when I eat at 12 x my body weight I lose. And I'm probably much older than you and in menopause so I'm already dealing with hormonal issues & stubborn fat.

Like I said if you are gaining weight at 12x bw then you have metabolic issues. The amount of time you spend dieting is the the amount you should be in maintenance.

Don't be like so many women who fall into the trap of more cardio & less calories is best mindset. And 160 lbs? Maybe you need to build some more muscle before you go back to dieting. You may find you will lose more weight when you give your body a rest from dieting.

Best of luck.


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[JeffFran]

Well I'm a female and when I eat at 12 x my body weight I lose. And I'm probably much older than you and in menopause so I'm already dealing with hormonal issues & stubborn fat.

Like I said if you are gaining weight at 12x bw then you have metabolic issues. The amount of time you spend dieting is the the amount you should be in maintenance.

Don't be like so many women who fall into the trap of more cardio & less calories is best mindset. And 160 lbs? Maybe you need to build some more muscle before you go back to dieting. You may find you will lose more weight when you give your body a rest from dieting.

Best of luck.


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Thanks for sharing your experience and spend your time! I am 160lbs and around 15% body fat.. When I first started I was 143lbs and 22-25% bf .. But I was tired of my belly , I rather look smaller for a while and having more definition than bulk where I was before dieting
That's a hard choice being in the middle, recomp was my best option but it's harder and without compounds with even harder , I received feed back from people in this forum who motivates me to keep dieting and compliment my progress photos .. Seriously I don't know what to do anymore


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[ironlifter36]

Thanks for sharing your experience and spend your time! I am 160lbs and around 15% body fat.. When I first started I was 143lbs and 22-25% bf .. But I was tired of my belly , I rather look smaller for a while and having more definition than bulk where I was before dieting
That's a hard choice being in the middle, recomp was my best option but it's harder and without compounds with even harder , I received feed back from people in this forum who motivates me to keep dieting and compliment my progress photos .. Seriously I don't know what to do anymore


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If you started at 143 and 22-25%BF and are now 160 at 15%BF, I would say that is a significant change, wouldn't you agree? As RickRock already stated, reverse diet back up to maintenance and perhaps cut your cardio in half. Also as already mentioned, get bloodwork. There will come a point during a cut, where you can no longer reduce calories any further OR increase cardio anymore. It is at this time you must slowly back out of the cut by reverse dieting. Your initial approach of cutting calories way back and starting with an excessive amount of cardio worked great at first, but quickly stalled leaving you no room to reduce calories or increase energy output. This is what I have found has worked best for ME. I reduce calories only enough to begin weight loss and slowly ramp up cardio as the weeks go by. See below as an EXAMPLE:

Let's say my maintenance is 2500cal at 4 lifting days and 40min per week of cardio.

I go into the cut as follows:

Week 1 - 2100cal 4 lifting days and 40min of cardio per week
Week 2 - 2100cal 4 lifting days and 40min of cardio per week
Week 3 - 2100cal 4 lifting days and 90min of cardio per week
Week 4 - 2100cal 4 lifting days and 90min of cardio per week
Week 5 - 2100cal 4 lifting days and 120min of cardio per week
Week 6 - 2100cal 4 lifting days and 120min of cardio per week
Week 7 - 2000cal 4 lifting days and 150min of cardio per week
Week 8 - 2000cal 4 lifting days and 180min of cardio per week
Week 9 - 2000cal 4 lifting days and 180min of cardio per week
END Cut Begin Reverse Diet
Week 10 - 2200cal 4 lifting days and 40min of cardio per week
Week 11 - 2300cal 4 lifting days and 40min of cardio per week
Week 12 - 2400cal 4 lifting days and 40min of cardio per week
Week 13 - 2500cal 4 lifting days and 40min of cardio per week

 

[JeffFran]

If you started at 143 and 22-25%BF and are now 160 at 15%BF, I would say that is a significant change, wouldn't you agree? As RickRock already stated, reverse diet back up to maintenance and perhaps cut your cardio in half. Also as already mentioned, get bloodwork. There will come a point during a cut, where you can no longer reduce calories any further OR increase cardio anymore. It is at this time you must slowly back out of the cut by reverse dieting. Your initial approach of cutting calories way back and starting with an excessive amount of cardio worked great at first, but quickly stalled leaving you no room to reduce calories or increase energy output. This is what I have found has worked best for ME. I reduce calories only enough to begin weight loss and slowly ramp up cardio as the weeks go by. See below as an EXAMPLE:

Let's say my maintenance is 2500cal at 4 lifting days and 40min per week of cardio.

I go into the cut as follows:

Week 1 - 2100cal 4 lifting days and 40min of cardio per week
Week 2 - 2100cal 4 lifting days and 40min of cardio per week
Week 3 - 2100cal 4 lifting days and 90min of cardio per week
Week 4 - 2100cal 4 lifting days and 90min of cardio per week
Week 5 - 2100cal 4 lifting days and 120min of cardio per week
Week 6 - 2100cal 4 lifting days and 120min of cardio per week
Week 7 - 2000cal 4 lifting days and 150min of cardio per week
Week 8 - 2000cal 4 lifting days and 180min of cardio per week
Week 9 - 2000cal 4 lifting days and 180min of cardio per week
END Cut Begin Reverse Diet
Week 10 - 2200cal 4 lifting days and 40min of cardio per week
Week 11 - 2300cal 4 lifting days and 40min of cardio per week
Week 12 - 2400cal 4 lifting days and 40min of cardio per week
Week 13 - 2500cal 4 lifting days and 40min of cardio per week

I learned the hard way but I'll do what you said .. Doing a plan in order to have a sustainable weight loss.. I measure myself every Saturday and I will wait until this one to check if I lost weight and fat and the bloodwork will be next week.. And then I'll reverse diet after seeing my results
I started lifting when I was 143lbs 1 year and a half ago not when i started dieting bro
Reverse dieting is slowly increasing calories week after week isn't it?


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[SdBronco]

1700-2000kcal for 9 weeks or 10 weeks.. 45% protein , carbs and fats vary depending if it's a workout day or not , non working out day fats are 35-40% and carbs around 20-15% .. My body fat percentage i dint know that for sure .. I've gone to a pharmacy and it said 12% but I think I am around 15%


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HERE Is where your problem lies. Your thyroid could be just fine. At 160 and close to 15% bf you cannot get away with eating those amounts of calories, trust me. My very first cut I dropped to 155 at 7% bf. I was eating no more than 1600 calories a day. If I came even close to 1900 cals it would bloat me and I would gain weight overnight. Your body becomes so depleted in this state from dieting so long almost ANY extra calories even brown rice will bloat you can cause weight gain. Even 200 cals over in my experience. I'd stop cycling carbs/calories at this point and just keep your diet the exact same everyday. Cardio and workouts the same every single week. Then after 2-3 weeks make adjustments as needed. You are basically eating a maintenance wondering why you aren't losing weight. You gotta drop cals lower or increase cardio. Your maintenance calories change with every pound you lose, and it only gets lower. Also at 160 lbs and 15% you don't have a lot of muscle there. Maybe you have an underlying problem like low T. When natural athletes deplete calories for long periods of time it can lower test and raise cortisol. Just something to consider as well. Maybe give a full blown keto diet a chance.