Tbol Cycle

[bakaooo]

Hello Dylan!

First and foremost I want to thank you for all your work on your videos, they have helped me a TON and I have had amazing gains with the information you have provided.

I'm starting a new cycle, similar to my last cycle which was EQ 400mg +Sustanon 200mg every week for 14 weeks except this time I want to up the dose a bit and add tbol to the 1st 6 weeks of my cycle. The EQ takes about 6 weeks to fully kick in anyway so I figured the tbol would be a nice kick starter for the 1st 6 weeks. My PCT consisted of both Nolvadex/Clomid and I was fine and kept if not most but all my gains (strength did not decrease).

I understand in your video regarding tbol you suggest to take it with LGD-4033 and RAD-140 but are those 2 absolutely necessary? What are your thoughts on this cycle? Do you recommend any AI for a cycle like this one? My last question is what sort of liver protection do you suggest for a cycle such as this? Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thank you!

A bit of information about myself, I'm not a bodybuilder but I am an 28 yr old competitive Olympic weightlifter so I mostly cycle in the off season for recovery purposes and strength gains but not for much size because I must stay within my weight category men's -105kg(231lb) for weigh ins at competitions.

 

[9th Wonder]

You can run Tbol as your only oral for sure. LGD and RAD will just make it better.
Definitely run some TUDCA, NAC and Milk Thistle for liver support.

 

[DylanGemelli]

taking lgd and rad stacked with tbol will give you dbol like results without the sides... its not that its something you HAVE to do but if you want to take things to the next level, then you would definitely want to utilize them...


when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…




here is the link to purchase the entire pct stack followed by the layout...


https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=133&search=platinum


clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[bakaooo]

taking lgd and rad stacked with tbol will give you dbol like results without the sides... its not that its something you HAVE to do but if you want to take things to the next level, then you would definitely want to utilize them...


when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…




here is the link to purchase the entire pct stack followed by the layout...


https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=133&search=platinum


clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day

Thank you Dylan I will definitely be doing the LGD/RAD as well as adding mk-2866/gw-501516 to my PCT protocol which already consists of Clomid/Nolva/Aromasin. So my cycle is going to look like 300mg sustanon/600mg equipoise per week for 14 weeks, 40mg Tbol per day for 6 weeks (how much LGD/RAD to take with the Tbol?).

PCT will start 2-3 weeks after last injection using exactly what you have suggested. What about AI? What AI would you suggest for a long ester cycle like this one?

 

[bakaooo]

You can run Tbol as your only oral for sure. LGD and RAD will just make it better.
Definitely run some TUDCA, NAC and Milk Thistle for liver support.

I will definitely be using LGD and RAD but what dose would work with 40mg Tbol per day for 6 weeks? Will run TUDCA/NAC/MT for sure, thanks for the advice.

 

[RickRock]

Thank you Dylan I will definitely be doing the LGD/RAD as well as adding mk-2866/gw-501516 to my PCT protocol which already consists of Clomid/Nolva/Aromasin. So my cycle is going to look like 300mg sustanon/600mg equipoise per week for 14 weeks, 40mg Tbol per day for 6 weeks (how much LGD/RAD to take with the Tbol?).

PCT will start 2-3 weeks after last injection using exactly what you have suggested. What about AI? What AI would you suggest for a long ester cycle like this one?

Lgd will be 10mg per day dosed in the am
RAD is 20mg per day dosed in the am

You should be using aromasin during your cycle at 12.5mg EOD

 

[bakaooo]

Lgd will be 10mg per day dosed in the am
RAD is 20mg per day dosed in the am

You should be using aromasin during your cycle at 12.5mg EOD

Perfect, thanks so much. That's what I will do is start the Aromasin from day one and start the Nolva/Clomid/MK/GW 3 weeks after last pin.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Perfect, thanks so much. That's what I will do is start the Aromasin from day one and start the Nolva/Clomid/MK/GW 3 weeks after last pin.

everything is spot on except your pct start time... do not start it 3 weeks after... stick with two weeks... i dont care what someone may have said about waiting because eq is a longer ester... thats bull shit... start it two weeks after your last pin bro

 

[bakaooo]

everything is spot on except your pct start time... do not start it 3 weeks after... stick with two weeks... i dont care what someone may have said about waiting because eq is a longer ester... thats bull shit... start it two weeks after your last pin bro

Will do! Thanks so much guys!

As for the AI, I was suggested to use Arimidex but since I will be using Aromasin is the Arimidex necessary?

I had a last minute thought and wanted to ask you guys if it would be better to use test E rather than the sustanon? I had some problems with PIP last time with the sustanon and I suspect it's from the test prop that's in sustanon although I'm not 100% sure but it was really bad that I was limping for a few days although I was still able to squat and train through it.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Will do! Thanks so much guys!

As for the AI, I was suggested to use Arimidex but since I will be using Aromasin is the Arimidex necessary?

I had a last minute thought and wanted to ask you guys if it would be better to use test E rather than the sustanon? I had some problems with PIP last time with the sustanon and I suspect it's from the test prop that's in sustanon although I'm not 100% sure but it was really bad that I was limping for a few days although I was still able to squat and train through it.

you definitely do not need arimidex now... you will crush your estrogen running two ai's... i personally am not a fan of mixed esters so im not a sustanon fan... i prefer test cyp but test e is fine as well...

 

[bakaooo]

you definitely do not need arimidex now... you will crush your estrogen running two ai's... i personally am not a fan of mixed esters so im not a sustanon fan... i prefer test cyp but test e is fine as well...

My Aromasin came dosed in 25mg so I will break them in half and take 12.5mg EOD as suggested above, does the Aromasin run through PCT or stop prior to PCT?