Quick Question with trt

[DylanGemelli]

Another thing I am thinking of is dropping NPP/Caber soon. Makes me tired but then upping test to 350-400 a week and ill stick to my 1200mg of eq a week and 25mg proviron a day. And then I would want to add in masterone prop or enanthate at 200-400 a week. What do you guys think of this? I am all about lean gains with minimal side effects and feeling good rather than lethargic. The idea behind masteron is just to keep me feeling good and lean since I am upping my test a bit and keeping my libido and erections good.

Im not sure which masteron I want, P or E.

use proviron for that purpose, not masteron... your not in the proper condition for masteron and your wasting money...

npp is not making you tired... not at all... have you had bloodwork done? your kind of all over the place bro and its getting concerning

 

[sepe166]

use proviron for that purpose, not masteron... your not in the proper condition for masteron and your wasting money...

npp is not making you tired... not at all... have you had bloodwork done? your kind of all over the place bro and its getting concerning

Ok I will get bloods done. I have the paper on me actually so I can just pop in there anytime. I honestly think its prolactin. I have gone for blood work literally 6-7 times in the past 10-12 months and ive been doing this for 10 years now. So my health is good. What specifically do you think I should get checked? My doc lets me check off whatever I want to get checked. I am suppose to take my dose of caber tomorrow but I took .25mg last night and later in the day I felt more energized but tomorrows dose is .50mg.

 

[sepe166]

use proviron for that purpose, not masteron... your not in the proper condition for masteron and your wasting money...

npp is not making you tired... not at all... have you had bloodwork done? your kind of all over the place bro and its getting concerning

Also I am thinking about just doing 75mg npp 3 times a week. I am looking at the cabergoline side effect list. Lethargy, feeling weak is a side effect. Also my mouth is dry. The idea is to be able to cut cabergoline completely out at this dose. I will continue caber for another week or so then cut it out because of the NPP halflife is still high in concentration in my body. It will be a week before it lowers to the levels where I think I can get away without Caber. There is no question its caber or npp causing lethargy. Lethargy is listed on both as side effects.

Do you think this is acceptable plan Dylan? I also will hold off blood work for maybe 3-4 weeks? Is that enough time for prlocatin to lower and to see if its not to elevated?

I still may add in masterone to dry me out and increase prop a bit higher. I am at 12-13% bodyfat and I estimated my bodyfat to be around 10-11% and then added 1-2% to it since people typically under estimate there body fat.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Ok I will get bloods done. I have the paper on me actually so I can just pop in there anytime. I honestly think its prolactin. I have gone for blood work literally 6-7 times in the past 10-12 months and ive been doing this for 10 years now. So my health is good. What specifically do you think I should get checked? My doc lets me check off whatever I want to get checked. I am suppose to take my dose of caber tomorrow but I took .25mg last night and later in the day I felt more energized but tomorrows dose is .50mg.

you need a full hormonal panel including prolactin

 

[DylanGemelli]

Also I am thinking about just doing 75mg npp 3 times a week. I am looking at the cabergoline side effect list. Lethargy, feeling weak is a side effect. Also my mouth is dry. The idea is to be able to cut cabergoline completely out at this dose. I will continue caber for another week or so then cut it out because of the NPP halflife is still high in concentration in my body. It will be a week before it lowers to the levels where I think I can get away without Caber. There is no question its caber or npp causing lethargy. Lethargy is listed on both as side effects.

Do you think this is acceptable plan Dylan? I also will hold off blood work for maybe 3-4 weeks? Is that enough time for prlocatin to lower and to see if its not to elevated?

I still may add in masterone to dry me out and increase prop a bit higher. I am at 12-13% bodyfat and I estimated my bodyfat to be around 10-11% and then added 1-2% to it since people typically under estimate there body fat.

you need to be under 10% body fat to use masteron effectively...

i mean bro, honestly, no, its not acceptable... the dose is just fine but completely cutting out caber is not smart at all... you can do whatever you like with it but if your asking for honesty, your just getting more reckless... i dont get it man.... you do what you like but dont be surprised when you have issues... at least run caber at a lower dose...

 

[sepe166]

you need to be under 10% body fat to use masteron effectively...

i mean bro, honestly, no, its not acceptable... the dose is just fine but completely cutting out caber is not smart at all... you can do whatever you like with it but if your asking for honesty, your just getting more reckless... i dont get it man.... you do what you like but dont be surprised when you have issues... at least run caber at a lower dose...

Ok thanks I dont think I will cut out caber then. I will get bloods done shortly thanks. I am not as experienced as you thats why some stuff I say may sound reckless and dumb but thats why I come to this forum. Thanks again good sir.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Ok thanks I dont think I will cut out caber then. I will get bloods done shortly thanks. I am not as experienced as you thats why some stuff I say may sound reckless and dumb but thats why I come to this forum. Thanks again good sir.

well i am extremely happy your here learning then brother because it could save your life and since you are listening as you are, i expect good things for you as long as you follow the right protocols...

 

[sepe166]

Quick update in case anyone is following this thread. I upped provrion from 25mg to about 37.5mg (1 and a half tabs) and I even lost more water. My face is so lean its crazy. Before Proviron I thought I had to lose a few lbs but after 25mg of proviron... I dropped a lot of water. I once again thought I had to lose weight and after upping Proviron by 12.5mg I once again lost even more water. This is a miracle drug for me lol. I just love it and my libido is high with really good erections and EQ has kicked in as well and everything is fine.

The reason for starting low on Proviron and working my way up was to see how it effected me. So I could gauge the effectiveness at lower dosages compared to higher dosages. Originally if you look at my very first post it was always to start using smaller doses of steroids to grow. I did stray from this strategy for a week or so when I blasted high amounts of EQ but I was feeling depressed and down at that point because dieting had flattened me out. But thanks to Dylan, he got me back on track with my original strategy of using lower amounts steroids and growing lean.

Also EQ has kicked in as of this week and I decided to just drop NPP and I will take caber for another couple of weeks until NPP is gone. I will give further updates as things change. I still believe its npp/caber causing lethargy but I got blood tests coming shortly. I will be able to know soon weather it was NPP/caber or something else that was causing lethargy.

 

[sepe166]

Would adding 200-300mg masteron make my face leaner? I have been on trt 100mg for 4 years. Even though my bodyfat is far lower than its ever been I still cant get my face as lean as it was before I went on TRT. Its the 100mg of test that causes this minimal bloat. Nothing gets rid of it. And also I did lower my test to 100mg as of this week and cut npp out. Rest of anabolics are the same. EQ is so much better than NPP at keeping me full. I love it.

So let me know if masteron would help this. I know its not ideal to add masterone just for this specific reason but I need an answer to this question.

Thanks again.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Would adding 200-300mg masteron make my face leaner? I have been on trt 100mg for 4 years. Even though my bodyfat is far lower than its ever been I still cant get my face as lean as it was before I went on TRT. Its the 100mg of test that causes this minimal bloat. Nothing gets rid of it. And also I did lower my test to 100mg as of this week and cut npp out. Rest of anabolics are the same. EQ is so much better than NPP at keeping me full. I love it.

So let me know if masteron would help this. I know its not ideal to add masterone just for this specific reason but I need an answer to this question.

Thanks again.

masteron is not a fat burner, its an aesthetic... its not going to make you lose weight, no steroid will...

 

[RickRock]

Would adding 200-300mg masteron make my face leaner? I have been on trt 100mg for 4 years. Even though my bodyfat is far lower than its ever been I still cant get my face as lean as it was before I went on TRT. Its the 100mg of test that causes this minimal bloat. Nothing gets rid of it. And also I did lower my test to 100mg as of this week and cut npp out. Rest of anabolics are the same. EQ is so much better than NPP at keeping me full. I love it.

So let me know if masteron would help this. I know its not ideal to add masterone just for this specific reason but I need an answer to this question.

Thanks again.

Don't rely on Masteron for that. That is not going to help you at all. If you want to lean out your face, you need to diet down more....plain and simple


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[sepe166]

masteron is not a fat burner, its an aesthetic... its not going to make you lose weight, no steroid will...

Correct. Its water in my face not fat. Small amounts of water. That is why I want to use masteron to get rid of it. Would masteron do this?

 

[RickRock]

Correct. Its water in my face not fat. Small amounts of water. That is why I want to use masteron to get rid of it. Would masteron do this?

Absolutely not bro. Why the hell would you want to use a steroid to reduce water? That makes no sense. If you are retaining water, either you need to increase your AI, drink more water, increase potassium rich foods, or fix your diet (carbs, sodium, dairy, etc)


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[Shockmaster]

Masteron is said to increase effectivness of other steroids and to lessen the aromatization of test & other compounds. I like it so much I dont think Id run a cycle without it. But like Rick says, there are better ways to shed water.

Also, I began to shoot 0.2ml of my NPP subq everyday (skipping a day here & there) and that has lit me up like no other. Energy way up, feel great all the time. When I shot 1ml I.M I would feel it that evening only, then gone. This will fall under the everybodys different clause though. Might be worth a try to see what happens

 

[JackSteel]

Masteron is said to increase effectivness of other steroids and to lessen the aromatization of test & other compounds. I like it so much I dont think Id run a cycle without it. But like Rick says, there are better ways to shed water.

Also, I began to shoot 0.2ml of my NPP subq everyday (skipping a day here & there) and that has lit me up like no other. Energy way up, feel great all the time. When I shot 1ml I.M I would feel it that evening only, then gone. This will fall under the everybodys different clause though. Might be worth a try to see what happens

Yes but not at that low of a dose. I don't think it would help in this case especially if he is that sensitive to water retention. I agree there are better ways for his case.


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[sepe166]

What would be the lowest dose I could run masteron at? Shedding is a concern as well. Im already so lean now from dieting. I hate this tiny bit of water in my cheeks.

 

[RickRock]

What would be the lowest dose I could run masteron at? Shedding is a concern as well. Im already so lean now from dieting. I hate this tiny bit of water in my cheeks.

If shedding is a concern, then you need to stay away from Masteron and any other DHTs. Those are the worst there is for shedding


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[sepe166]

I got most of my bloods back. Ill post it up shortly when the full results come back but I see my prolaction is <^2 (range 2 - 18 ug/L). What does this even mean? What are the 2 arrows with the number 2? Is my prolactin to low? Is that what was causing my fatigue? It seems like my prolactin is at the lowest possible range and this is 2 weeks after stopping caber. Did I crash my prolactin while on npp/caber?

 

[sepe166]

Blood test results. Why is my vitamin D so low? Can steroids lower my vit D? How did it go from normal to low? And is my prolactin level ok? That seems low, the lowest it can go to be considered normal. That cant be good ? I also see provrion has increased my liver enzymes.. before provrion it was mid range normal.
I take thyroid medication since I have hypothyroidism. I can easily adjust the dose to fix to much t3.

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[sepe166]

Anyone know whats going on?