Question about Sleep and Food

[mycrosstobare]

Haha. Nice.

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[mycrosstobare]

I would never interrupt quality sleep. That is where the growth occurs. You break down muscle in the gym, you grow when you eat and sleep. If you're wanting to stay anabolic through the night, I suggest taking a CASEIN protein about 30 min before you relax and get some sleep. The casein breaks down and digests slower than most foods so you'll pretty much make it through the night supplying aminos to your muscles. Tinker with the right amount for you. If you have a fast metabolism and have more muscle mass, obviously have more. Roughly around 50grams if you're a bigger dude should cover you through the night and keep you away from going catabolic for the whole 6-10 hours of sleep.

I have a casein protein I take. I even brought that up to my friend but eh he is stubborn and gets his "quality" information from unreliable sources .

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[SpikedEggnog]

This morning went through the leg day workout with the squad I usually lift with and a debate started about sleep and food. Now one guy says you have to and I mean absolutely have to eat at a min every 6 hours in order to gain. Which means you should wake up in the middle of the night to eat a meal and then go back to sleep.

Now the question is breaking up your sleep cycle to eat, does it have a that much if any beneficial gain? The stuff I have read says you want a solid sleep schedule along with a calorie intake that suits what you are trying to do. So I don't understand why I would want to break my sleep schedule for food.

Perhaps someone with more experience can drop some knowledge my way. Thanks.

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have to eat every 6 hrs? i dont believe it. so many different people have made gains by eating 10 meals a day or 3 meals a day, sleeping 10 hours or 2 hours with naps. it varies GREATLY, there is none of this cut n stone garbage..i personally eat every 2 hours but i am always hungry..not for everyone

 

[MaxxPursuit]

have to eat every 6 hrs? i dont believe it. so many different people have made gains by eating 10 meals a day or 3 meals a day, sleeping 10 hours or 2 hours with naps. it varies GREATLY, there is none of this cut n stone garbage..i personally eat every 2 hours but i am always hungry..not for everyone

I would hate having to take 2 hour naps here and there to get my sleep in. I had to do it for work a couple times. Seriously nothing like a full nights sleep after dealing with broken sleep.

 

[RickRock]

BRO Sci should be a kool aid flavor

Haha....hilarious bro! At times I think bro science is a kool aid flavor, since there's so many people drinking it....lol

 

[RickRock]

^ Agreed. Nutrient timing has it's place like for example heavier carbs intra/post workout due to glycogen depletion from workload, etc. That can be beneficial but for things like setting alarms to wake up and eat a meal, trust me, sleep is much more important. The extremities are insane sometimes and I think a lot of it has to do with people wanting to claim they found the "secret" and over-analyzing.

Yep, you got that right. This entire bodybuilding lifestyle is full of extremists and zealots, that will tell you some pretty insane things. Like you said, there's some certain times where the timing of your nutrients should be adhered to, but short of that it really doesn't matter.

Truth of the matter is its not that damn complicated. Work your ass off, and get the amount of calories and different macros you need by the end of the day.....end of story

 

[mycrosstobare]

Yep, you got that right. This entire bodybuilding lifestyle is full of extremists and zealots, that will tell you some pretty insane things. Like you said, there's some certain times where the timing of your nutrients should be adhered to, but short of that it really doesn't matter.

Truth of the matter is its not that damn complicated. Work your ass off, and get the amount of calories and different macros you need by the end of the day.....end of story

There is definitely more kool aid drinkers and a lot less working your ass off now a days. Needless to say the other guy in the squad who works out with us was saying the same things everyone here and my girl noticed my the gains coming in. So I'll just stick to what I'm doing lol.

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[JackSteel]

Eat what u can during the day. If Ur worried about through the night eat something that's slow to digest like lean steak..it'll break down slowly and deliver that protein and nutrients through the night. Ur muscles only grow when Ur sleeping so I wouldn't disrupt the sleep

This. Don't break sleep.


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[the force]

how can you argue with getting 8 hours sleep? i would need to see some evidence,, actually im not sure even evidence would convince me , I already drank the kool aid that has 8 hours a night as part of their crazy cult practices

 

[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

how can you argue with getting 8 hours sleep? i would need to see some evidence,, actually im not sure even evidence would convince me , I already drank the kool aid that has 8 hours a night as part of their crazy cult practices

^ya, its not about 8 hours of sleep as a set number its about out of those 8 hours of sleep how many hours did you reach REM or rapid eye movement, which is when i believe the most GH is released and you grow more so. Here are some links to some very good proven studies about sleep and its requirements, habits, myths etc..

https://www.nichd.nih.gov/health/topics/sleep/conditioninfo/Pages/rem-sleep.aspx

https://www.nichd.nih.gov/health/topics/sleep/conditioninfo/pages/how-much.aspx

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC297368/

 

[MaxxPursuit]

Yep, you got that right. This entire bodybuilding lifestyle is full of extremists and zealots, that will tell you some pretty insane things. Like you said, there's some certain times where the timing of your nutrients should be adhered to, but short of that it really doesn't matter.

Truth of the matter is its not that damn complicated. Work your ass off, and get the amount of calories and different macros you need by the end of the day.....end of story

Hell yea brother. If only more people could stick to this simple truth instead of looking for shortcuts or the "hidden" secrets to get results faster. A lot of it stems from this generation of the "I want it now" mentalities. Just because you don't have your dream results in 1 month doesn't mean you're doing something wrong. Everything just takes time. It's like this "waking up in the middle of the night to get a meal" - dude if all of a sudden people could dramatically start packing on muscle just by setting an alarm and eating in the middle of the night don't you think a ton of people would be preaching it?

It's simple bud. I completely agree.

 

[SpikedEggnog]

well let me clarify, that waking up stuff i think is garbage, BUT if you are like jay cutler in his prime, he woke up every 2 hours to eat but that is only because he was insanely heavier then his body frame could ever accomodate and he would literally lose 5-10 lbs overnight if he didnt wake up to eat. that is the only time i have ever heard of anyone doing that waking up stuff. other then me occasionally waking up and eating a snack in middle of night. i dont set my alarm but sometimes i DO wake up and eat a snack. but i would much rather Sleep then wake up lol

 

[mycrosstobare]

Yea I mean the guy is a good guy and wanting to get back in shape. I explained to him there is no shortcut to getting where he wants to be. He even asked me about the SARMS I'm on and I told him to even hold off on those until he could consistently keep a solid diet and shed some fat and get a routine before starting down that road.

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