william32 said:
PHURIOUS said:Just so crissfitters know i can show the love. These are probly the sickest shoes ive ever seen. Lol.
PHURIOUS PHARMA
ZeroToHero said:Read through this thread for the last 15 minutes or so and just want to say I've enjoyed the dialogue. As someone who grew up training pure bodybuilding style since I was 14 and turned to CrossFit about four years ago, I think I can offer some unique perspective. I've been on both sides of the fence and I can genuinely say that both sides have valid points, but the ultimate point (that has already been stated here) is that ALL fitness avenues should be embracing of one another. Bodybuilding, CrossFit, Powerlifting, Olympic Weightlifting, Strongman, its all cool as FUCK! We are all in the gym daily, training our asses off to be the best we can be, and since we are all different and unique (thank God) some avenues work better for some people. And that is AWESOME. I am a competitive CrossFitter but I still enjoy killing a bodybuilding session a few times a month.
My personal story with CrossFit has been nothing like any of the smack talk I've ever heard from people. I've coached at three separate CrossFit gyms in the last four years, I have visited at least 20-30 more, and have been competing in the sport for years now, and I can say with 100% certainty that I have never seen someone get injured doing CrossFit. Nagging injuries from pushing yourself in training? Of course, all the time. Sore joints, strained muscles are common when you're pushing your limits. But I've never seen anyone break a bone, tear an ACL, or anything of the sort. That's not to say they don't happen of course, but my point is to say that it is extremely uncommon, and nobody can tell me "yea well my friend did CrossFit and he said everyone in his gym fractured their Femur" because I am inside of fucking Crossfit gyms every damn day of my life, and I have absolutely never seen anyone get a devastating injury while doing CrossFit, nor have I myself been injured. We coach perfect movement, and we don't allow anyone to add load to disfunction, for any reason. Intensity never outweighs technique. I am personal trainer at a "globo" gym as well and I have seen way more devastating injuries there than I have at my CrossFit gym (two grade 3 pec tears, a grade 3 bicep tear, and a torn meniscus). So my point is that the "CrossFit is dangerous" stereotype couldn't be further from the truth. This is largely due to the fact that the quality of CrossFit gyms and coaches has increased dramatically in the last 5 or so years. CrossFit has gotten so big, and there are so many successful gyms everywhere, that it is no longer possible to have shitty coaching and expect to last long. You have to strive to be the best gym and have the best coaching possible if you want a chance of succeeding. Gone are the days where some kid who got his Level 1 Cert and has enough money can go open up his own gym. CrossFit is no more dangerous than conventional bodybuilding or powerlifting or anything else.
And I can say this with the utmost confidence as well: The best coaching happening in the fitness industry right now is in CrossFit, and its not even close. This is because the nature of the sport is that you must be good at everything. So now we see legendary coaches and lifters from all sports such as Mark Rippetoe, Louie Simmons, Mark Bell, Mike Burgener, Chad Vaughn, Stan Efferding, etc devoting a huge portion of their time to coaching CrossFit athletes or putting on CrossFit Lifting Seminars. Not to mention other incredible coaches from the gymnastics and endurance world (that nobody here would probably know of). And because of it, all fitness sports are receiving 10x more attention than they were before. People only bash on CrossFit because they do not understand its purpose, or they have seen it used and abused somewhere. But the purpose of CrossFit from its inception was to do what nobody else has ever been able to do: Define "Fitness". CrossFit said "we are going to take every true Fitness modality that exists, and put athletes through a series of tests and workouts, and the individual who performs the best overall across the board is the "fittest". So the specialist is punished, and the generalist is rewarded. However being a specialist is great if that's what you want to do. A lot of people couldn't give a rats ass about being "the fittest", they just wanna be as jacked as possible. And that is fine! I can't stand CrossFitters who make fun of bicep curls because they are "not functional" just as much as bodybuilders who bash on CrossFit.
For me, I was never able to get in very good shape through bodybuilding training alone. That is because I wasn't motivated enough. What motivates me specifically, is competition. If you give me a sport to train for, I will train myself into the ground. I have been working out regularly since I was in high school, but I never pushed myself hard in the gym once I was done with high school sports, because the motivation wasn't there. Then in 2012 I watched a video of Rich Froning and was inspired by his incredible physique and his athletic ability. I immediately fell in love with CrossFit and my body transformed dramatically in just a year or two. Below is a picture of me on the left in October 2012 on my honeymoon, and the picture on the right was October of 2014 (all natural before my first cycle in January of this year). The funny thing was I actually thought I was in good shape back then! lol... CrossFit has allowed me to train at a level I never would have before. I put in 2-3 training sessions 5 days a week now that are an hour or two each, pushing my physical limits every day. My strength has gone up dramatically, my endurance of course as well, and I've never felt or looked so good. So all that to say, for ME, CrossFit works, and it has changed my life. I get to coach people every day who would normally be sitting on the couch wasting away, but they found something they enjoy that gets them to the gym 3-5 days a week. I get to help old, out of shape, de-conditioned people get in shape for the first time ever and push their bodies in a way they never would have otherwise. So I assure any and all haters out there, CrossFit is a beautiful thing when applied correctly. There are idiots and douche bags in every fitness sport who give it a bad name. I say we shouldn't let that cause us to sterotype anyone. At the end of the day we are all in love with lifting and improving our bodies through training, so lets learn from one another and be the absolute fucking best we can possibly be at whatever it is we do
DylanGemelli said:
Cuz I definitely don't want to do 2-3 conditioning sessions every day once I turn 30 lol
ZeroToHero said:DylanGemelli said:
Thanks bro! Hard work definitely pays off. I think in a few years I will transition back to full time powerbuilding training again and will just see how strong and jacked I can get
ZeroToHero said:Read through this thread for the last 15 minutes or so and just want to say I've enjoyed the dialogue. As someone who grew up training pure bodybuilding style since I was 14 and turned to CrossFit about four years ago, I think I can offer some unique perspective. I've been on both sides of the fence and I can genuinely say that both sides have valid points, but the ultimate point (that has already been stated here) is that ALL fitness avenues should be embracing of one another. Bodybuilding, CrossFit, Powerlifting, Olympic Weightlifting, Strongman, its all cool as FUCK! We are all in the gym daily, training our asses off to be the best we can be, and since we are all different and unique (thank God) some avenues work better for some people. And that is AWESOME. I am a competitive CrossFitter but I still enjoy killing a bodybuilding session a few times a month.
My personal story with CrossFit has been nothing like any of the smack talk I've ever heard from people. I've coached at three separate CrossFit gyms in the last four years, I have visited at least 20-30 more, and have been competing in the sport for years now, and I can say with 100% certainty that I have never seen someone get injured doing CrossFit. Nagging injuries from pushing yourself in training? Of course, all the time. Sore joints, strained muscles are common when you're pushing your limits. But I've never seen anyone break a bone, tear an ACL, or anything of the sort. That's not to say they don't happen of course, but my point is to say that it is extremely uncommon, and nobody can tell me "yea well my friend did CrossFit and he said everyone in his gym fractured their Femur" because I am inside of fucking Crossfit gyms every damn day of my life, and I have absolutely never seen anyone get a devastating injury while doing CrossFit, nor have I myself been injured. We coach perfect movement, and we don't allow anyone to add load to disfunction, for any reason. Intensity never outweighs technique. I am personal trainer at a "globo" gym as well and I have seen way more devastating injuries there than I have at my CrossFit gym (two grade 3 pec tears, a grade 3 bicep tear, and a torn meniscus). So my point is that the "CrossFit is dangerous" stereotype couldn't be further from the truth. This is largely due to the fact that the quality of CrossFit gyms and coaches has increased dramatically in the last 5 or so years. CrossFit has gotten so big, and there are so many successful gyms everywhere, that it is no longer possible to have shitty coaching and expect to last long. You have to strive to be the best gym and have the best coaching possible if you want a chance of succeeding. Gone are the days where some kid who got his Level 1 Cert and has enough money can go open up his own gym. CrossFit is no more dangerous than conventional bodybuilding or powerlifting or anything else.
And I can say this with the utmost confidence as well: The best coaching happening in the fitness industry right now is in CrossFit, and its not even close. This is because the nature of the sport is that you must be good at everything. So now we see legendary coaches and lifters from all sports such as Mark Rippetoe, Louie Simmons, Mark Bell, Mike Burgener, Chad Vaughn, Stan Efferding, etc devoting a huge portion of their time to coaching CrossFit athletes or putting on CrossFit Lifting Seminars. Not to mention other incredible coaches from the gymnastics and endurance world (that nobody here would probably know of). And because of it, all fitness sports are receiving 10x more attention than they were before. People only bash on CrossFit because they do not understand its purpose, or they have seen it used and abused somewhere. But the purpose of CrossFit from its inception was to do what nobody else has ever been able to do: Define "Fitness". CrossFit said "we are going to take every true Fitness modality that exists, and put athletes through a series of tests and workouts, and the individual who performs the best overall across the board is the "fittest". So the specialist is punished, and the generalist is rewarded. However being a specialist is great if that's what you want to do. A lot of people couldn't give a rats ass about being "the fittest", they just wanna be as jacked as possible. And that is fine! I can't stand CrossFitters who make fun of bicep curls because they are "not functional" just as much as bodybuilders who bash on CrossFit.
For me, I was never able to get in very good shape through bodybuilding training alone. That is because I wasn't motivated enough. What motivates me specifically, is competition. If you give me a sport to train for, I will train myself into the ground. I have been working out regularly since I was in high school, but I never pushed myself hard in the gym once I was done with high school sports, because the motivation wasn't there. Then in 2012 I watched a video of Rich Froning and was inspired by his incredible physique and his athletic ability. I immediately fell in love with CrossFit and my body transformed dramatically in just a year or two. Below is a picture of me on the left in October 2012 on my honeymoon, and the picture on the right was October of 2014 (all natural before my first cycle in January of this year). The funny thing was I actually thought I was in good shape back then! lol... CrossFit has allowed me to train at a level I never would have before. I put in 2-3 training sessions 5 days a week now that are an hour or two each, pushing my physical limits every day. My strength has gone up dramatically, my endurance of course as well, and I've never felt or looked so good. So all that to say, for ME, CrossFit works, and it has changed my life. I get to coach people every day who would normally be sitting on the couch wasting away, but they found something they enjoy that gets them to the gym 3-5 days a week. I get to help old, out of shape, de-conditioned people get in shape for the first time ever and push their bodies in a way they never would have otherwise. So I assure any and all haters out there, CrossFit is a beautiful thing when applied correctly. There are idiots and douche bags in every fitness sport who give it a bad name. I say we shouldn't let that cause us to sterotype anyone. At the end of the day we are all in love with lifting and improving our bodies through training, so lets learn from one another and be the absolute fucking best we can possibly be at whatever it is we do
