Cycle question

[deltman]

I am 5-8, 201, age 57, approx. 17% BF (been leaning out for a month now).

I have been on TRT for 3+ years. My weekly dosage of cyp is 120mg per week split into two injections. It keeps me in the 700-900 range. I have done a major body transformation in the past 8 months going from 30+% BF to my current state and putting on quality muscle in the process. I have a great structure for the sport and am now in the process of working to get my body ready to compete next Spring.

My coach wants me to start a cycle in the next couple of weeks or so. He is suggesting 500mg Test/week and 600mg Primo/week. Thoughts on this? I assume that I don't really need pct because I will be on TRT from now on. I also take .25mg Aromatase each week (between my two injections).

Thanks for any help!

 

[EZ_E]

Welcome to the board......and THANK YOU for posting your stats.

Great job thus far on the transformation. I would highly recommend AGAINST a cycle right now. Stay on the path your on and get down to the 12% range in body fat. When that happens you can consider a cycle...and NOT over 1G of oils a week, that's absurd.

generally most guys on TRT don't run PCT.

You're taking arimidex (Anastrozol) or Aromasin (Exemestane)....you're not taking Aromatase, you're preventing aromatization with the arimidex or Aromasin.

 

[deltman]

Thanks for the advice. And you're right - it's Anastrozol.

 

[EZ_E]

Got your back Jack.

 

[mastermolnar]

Obv taking arima at .25mg.... 0.25mg of masin would do literally nothing. You were referrring to aromatase inhibitor. There are a few.

Im of a different belief. I agree you should keep on the path youre on a little longer but I would say 15% would be a safe starting point for a blast. Is your trt self administered or through a doc?

 

[deltman]

get the scrip through my doc. i did one small blast and upped it to 200mg per week. made sure i came off it in time since i get labs done again in a couple of weeks and don't want to lose the scrip.

 

[BraedenB]

Are you referring to 1g of oil for a first cycle is absurd? Because 1gram is totally fine for someone just maybe not a first cycle.. primo needs to be run high anyways

 

[EZ_E]

Are you referring to 1g of oil for a first cycle is absurd? Because 1gram is totally fine for someone just maybe not a first cycle.. primo needs to be run high anyways

If you're asking me then yes, 1G of oil for THIS guy and FOR a 1st cycle IS absurd.

 

[BraedenB]

Ah yes then I agree.

 

[DylanGemelli]

I am 5-8, 201, age 57, approx. 17% BF (been leaning out for a month now).

I have been on TRT for 3+ years. My weekly dosage of cyp is 120mg per week split into two injections. It keeps me in the 700-900 range. I have done a major body transformation in the past 8 months going from 30+% BF to my current state and putting on quality muscle in the process. I have a great structure for the sport and am now in the process of working to get my body ready to compete next Spring.

My coach wants me to start a cycle in the next couple of weeks or so. He is suggesting 500mg Test/week and 600mg Primo/week. Thoughts on this? I assume that I don't really need pct because I will be on TRT from now on. I also take .25mg Aromatase each week (between my two injections).

Thanks for any help!

bro, get rid of your coach please... "coaches" dont sit there and recommend this shit to a guy your age who is not in the proper condition yet... you have done an AMAZING job thus far but now what your doing is rushing into something your not quite ready for and your just going to set yourself back.. if you run steroids when not in the proper condition, your clearly far more susceptible to side effects etc... your making a mistake... no, you do not need a pct but regardless, your not ready for this... primo is my favorite and you can absolutely get to the point you need to be... here is what i would do first, to get yourself under 15% and be in the right condition for a blast... continue cruising and add sarms and proviron... a good 12 weeks of this, with hard work and a consistent diet and i can see you at 12-13%, perfect condition for a blast with test and primo... if your not familiar with sarms, read my articles here... https://www.isarms.com/selective-androgen-receptor-modulators

you can get everything listed, aside from the test and www.sarmsx.com Here is the link for the stack of sarms to get... https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=124&search=enhanced

1-12 test cyp 120-150 mg week
1-12 aromasin 7.5 mg eod
1-12 proviron 50 mg day
1-12 rad140 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 sr9009 30 mg day... 5 mg split doses 2-3 hours apart
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout and non workout days, all at once in the a.m.

 

[deltman]

Thanks men. You are giving me a great deal to think about. This is a complicated game.

 

[deltman]

Thought it might be good to have a frame of reference.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Thought it might be good to have a frame of reference. View attachment 2243

the potential is absolutely there... your on your way bro... it is a very complicated game, your absolutely right... often times you will find yourself confused etc... the key here is to go for longevity... don't be in rush when it will only be detrimental to you and your health... you want to be as aggressive as possible but in the safest and smartest way... so something takes a few months longer to get prepared for... as opposed to cutting it many years short because you rushed things... you have to consider long term for your health and for your aging process in general... you add years to your life if you do this right... you have to go with your head and not what others may persuade you to do... most of us all know better but still make the wrong decision... its the most important decision on things when you first start... if you start with discipline, chances are far higher you keep it as opposed to starting with none and obtaining it when its too late... its all up to you to do it right... we give you the tools to do it right and then you have to implement them...

 

[RickRock]

Thanks men. You are giving me a great deal to think about. This is a complicated game.

Yes it is bro, but Dylan gave you a great protocol to follow that would treat you well. A lot of coaches out there dont exactly do things the right way and look out for your best interests.

 

[DylanGemelli]

keep us updated on what you decide to do bro