Cycle Doubts

[DarkClown]

I am planning to do Test Prop 300mg per week eod for 10 weeks and I was also looking to stack with winstrol (50mg ed) for the first 5 weeks. But since I am 12/14% bodyfat I don't know if winstrol is a good choice, maybe t-bol could be a better choice?

I lift for several years now, around 5 or 6 years.

 

[cmb5017]

Winstrol is best at end of cycle

 

[DylanGemelli]

I am planning to do Test Prop 300mg per week eod for 10 weeks and I was also looking to stack with winstrol (50mg ed) for the first 5 weeks. But since I am 12/14% bodyfat I don't know if winstrol is a good choice, maybe t-bol could be a better choice?

I lift for several years now, around 5 or 6 years.

what are your stats and goals???

age/height/weight/body fat?

 

[DarkClown]

what are your stats and goals???

age/height/weight/body fat?

My goal is mainly to cut down body fat but I would like to add some lean muscle in the process.
26 years old
5ft11
180lbs
Around 12-14%

 

[DarkClown]

Winstrol is best at end of cycle

Why do you think its better at the end?

 

[DylanGemelli]

Why do you think its better at the end?

its not that he "thinks" it, its a fact... winstrol is a finisher... its a muscle hardener and it cleans up the cycle... you want to polish at the end of a cycle and thats where it shines... you can kickstart with it but thats not the optimal way...

 

[DylanGemelli]

My goal is mainly to cut down body fat but I would like to add some lean muscle in the process.
26 years old
5ft11
180lbs
Around 12-14%

you do realize steroids are not fat burners right? how many cycles have you ran?

 

[DarkClown]

you do realize steroids are not fat burners right? how many cycles have you ran?

I know that but I am not those guys that looks to them in that way. I already have a consistent and restrict diet and I am already cutting for a while without the use of any "extra help". It will only improve what I am currently doing, it will preserve my lean muscle mass and any weight I will lose it will be fat.
I've run test prop and anavar in the past but it was a short cycle and I did PCT for 3 weeks (Clomid and Nolvadex)

 

[DarkClown]

its not that he "thinks" it, its a fact... winstrol is a finisher... its a muscle hardener and it cleans up the cycle... you want to polish at the end of a cycle and thats where it shines... you can kickstart with it but thats not the optimal way...

So pherhaps I will use it on the end but I am not really sure between those two

 

[DylanGemelli]

So pherhaps I will use it on the end but I am not really sure between those two

what exactly is your goal from the cycle?

 

[EZ_E]

Not crazy about starting a cycle @ 180 with 25 pounds of it being fat. And at 5'11?

You'd be better off holding off on the juice now, sounds like diet & training need work.

 

[DarkClown]

what exactly is your goal from the cycle?

My goal would be to get around 10% body fat


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[RickRock]

I'm not sure why you want to go with test prop for 10 weeks. Just do test C instead and go 12. If cutting is your goal, here is what I would personally do

1-12 Test C 300mg per week
1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 RAD-140 20mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 SR-9009 30mg per day (5mg dosed 6 times every 2-3 hours)
7-12 Winstrol 50mg ED


PCT

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/platinum-pct-stack

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK-2866 25mg ED
GW 20mg ED

 

[DarkClown]

I'm not sure why you want to go with test prop for 10 weeks. Just do test C instead and go 12. If cutting is your goal, here is what I would personally do

1-12 Test C 300mg per week
1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 RAD-140 20mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 SR-9009 30mg per day (5mg dosed 6 times every 2-3 hours)
7-12 Winstrol 50mg ED


PCT

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/platinum-pct-stack

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK-2866 25mg ED
GW 20mg ED

It would be too expensive to be honest . I rather do something like only two compounds , test and something else . Currently I can't afford such a cycle but appreciated for your advice . Could follow that cycle in a near future for sure


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[EZ_E]

If money is a concern (which is OK) then you definitely want to hold off for now. Juice, OCT, PCT, diet, all the other ingredients that go into this take money/money....best to hold off until you can make the financial commitment.

 

[RickRock]

If money is a concern (which is OK) then you definitely want to hold off for now. Juice, OCT, PCT, diet, all the other ingredients that go into this take money/money....best to hold off until you can make the financial commitment.

Agree completely. This isn't a cheap lifestyle by any means. The cycle is generally the cheapest part. I spend more on quality food per month than my whole cycles cost

 

[DylanGemelli]

If money is a concern (which is OK) then you definitely want to hold off for now. Juice, OCT, PCT, diet, all the other ingredients that go into this take money/money....best to hold off until you can make the financial commitment.

absolutely, thats a statement i always make and there's good reason... also in this situation, theres hope for around 4% fat loss with just steroids... thats just not how how they are used... yes, you can absolutely drop so fat but thats a pretty large drop... i definitely wouldnt recommend this type of thing for that goal but either way, if there is a money issue in general, you need to hold off...

 

[DarkClown]

But I have enough to support my diet, supplements and a stack of 2 compounds for that amount of time. I didn't remember the name but my main goal was a recomposition where you seek to add some lean muscle while dropping some fat at the same time. Sorry for the bad info that I gave you guys. And that's why I wasn't sure by doing winstrol or tbol. The main issue is that I have never tried recomposition so I don't know how I should manipulate my calorie intake and so forth. Thanks for your feedback

 

[worldbreaker86]

If money is a concern (which is OK) then you definitely want to hold off for now. Juice, OCT, PCT, diet, all the other ingredients that go into this take money/money....best to hold off until you can make the financial commitment.

Word.
Costs me more to eat for two days, than it does to get my gear.

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[EZ_E]

But I have enough to support my diet, supplements and a stack of 2 compounds for that amount of time. I didn't remember the name but my main goal was a recomposition where you seek to add some lean muscle while dropping some fat at the same time. Sorry for the bad info that I gave you guys. And that's why I wasn't sure by doing winstrol or tbol. The main issue is that I have never tried recomposition so I don't know how I should manipulate my calorie intake and so forth. Thanks for your feedback

Whatever you estimate a cycle will cost you (juice, oct, pct, food, supps) double it. If you have that much then OK. Other than that don't cycle.