Blast/Cruise vs Cycle/PCT

[cbbram00]

I think I got the basic understanding of each. My question is at my age (45) wouldn't blast and cruise be a better option? Is blast and cruise only for people that have a few cycles and PCT under their belt (so to speak) ? I'm definitely intrigued...

 

[JM750]

At your age. Getting your natural testosterone levels are worth tested. This will give you info as to if you need trt.
If you need trt. Then blast n cruise is def the wayvto go

I think for the younger guys. Doing a pct is worth it cause their natty levels are normally high to begin with. Im 51 and wouldnt even consider pct

 

[cbbram00]

Re: RE: Re: Blast/Cruise vs Cycle/PCT

At your age. Getting your natural testosterone levels are worth tested. This will give you info as to if you need trt.
If you need trt. Then blast n cruise is def the wayvto go

I think for the younger guys. Doing a pct is worth it cause their natty levels are normally high to begin with. Im 51 and wouldnt even consider pct

Ok... Makes sense... I plan on getting my test done soon. I found my local lab and I have the coupon from the Private MD news letter. I'll post my results when I get them.

 

[RickRock]

I think I got the basic understanding of each. My question is at my age (45) wouldn't blast and cruise be a better option? Is blast and cruise only for people that have a few cycles and PCT under their belt (so to speak) ? I'm definitely intrigued...

It depends entirely on whether or not you can sustain healthy natural testosterone levels or not. If you can, I would continue to PCT until you have to. Get tested and see where you are at when you are not on cycle. Two years ago I started blasting and cruising because my natural levels were in the tank, and I just couldn't maintain healthy levels any longer. I literally couldn't get my levels over 200 despite throwing the kitchen sink at recovery. It's definitely a viable option at your age, and as you get older it becomes harder and harder to have those good test levels. I'm 41 myself

 

[cbbram00]

Re: RE: Re: Blast/Cruise vs Cycle/PCT

I think I got the basic understanding of each. My question is at my age (45) wouldn't blast and cruise be a better option? Is blast and cruise only for people that have a few cycles and PCT under their belt (so to speak) ? I'm definitely intrigued...

It depends entirely on whether or not you can sustain healthy natural testosterone levels or not. If you can, I would continue to PCT until you have to. Get tested and see where you are at when you are not on cycle. Two years ago I started blasting and cruising because my natural levels were in the tank, and I just couldn't maintain healthy levels any longer. I literally couldn't get my levels over 200 despite throwing the kitchen sink at recovery. It's definitely a viable option at your age, and as you get older it becomes harder and harder to have those good test levels. I'm 41 myself

Ok... I see now how important getting tested is...

 

[RickRock]

Re: RE: Re: Blast/Cruise vs Cycle/PCT

I think I got the basic understanding of each. My question is at my age (45) wouldn't blast and cruise be a better option? Is blast and cruise only for people that have a few cycles and PCT under their belt (so to speak) ? I'm definitely intrigued...

It depends entirely on whether or not you can sustain healthy natural testosterone levels or not. If you can, I would continue to PCT until you have to. Get tested and see where you are at when you are not on cycle. Two years ago I started blasting and cruising because my natural levels were in the tank, and I just couldn't maintain healthy levels any longer. I literally couldn't get my levels over 200 despite throwing the kitchen sink at recovery. It's definitely a viable option at your age, and as you get older it becomes harder and harder to have those good test levels. I'm 41 myself

Ok... I see now how important getting tested is...

Yeh I always recovered well and had good levels, did PCT, felt great, etc. It's when I did a real long cycle (18 weeks) with several different compounds, and a very tough contest prep diet and lots of cardio that led to me just not recovering afterwards. I felt like complete death and I knew something was wrong. I had zero motivation or drive for the gym, sex drive was in the toilet, muscle mass and strength was declining, and fat gain was coming on when my diet was spot on. My blood tests just confirmed my suspicions. I've been on TRT since then and it's been life changing.

 

[cbbram00]

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Blast/Cruise vs Cycle/PCT

I think I got the basic understanding of each. My question is at my age (45) wouldn't blast and cruise be a better option? Is blast and cruise only for people that have a few cycles and PCT under their belt (so to speak) ? I'm definitely intrigued...

It depends entirely on whether or not you can sustain healthy natural testosterone levels or not. If you can, I would continue to PCT until you have to. Get tested and see where you are at when you are not on cycle. Two years ago I started blasting and cruising because my natural levels were in the tank, and I just couldn't maintain healthy levels any longer. I literally couldn't get my levels over 200 despite throwing the kitchen sink at recovery. It's definitely a viable option at your age, and as you get older it becomes harder and harder to have those good test levels. I'm 41 myself

Ok... I see now how important getting tested is...

Yeh I always recovered well and had good levels, did PCT, felt great, etc. It's when I did a real long cycle (18 weeks) with several different compounds, and a very tough contest prep diet and lots of cardio that led to me just not recovering afterwards. I felt like complete death and I knew something was wrong. I had zero motivation or drive for the gym, sex drive was in the toilet, muscle mass and strength was declining, and fat gain was coming on when my diet was spot on. My blood tests just confirmed my suspicions. I've been on TRT since then and it's been life changing.

Wow... Do you have to go to a special Dr. for TRT or is that just something you do yourself?

 

[RickRock]

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Blast/Cruise vs Cycle/PCT

I think I got the basic understanding of each. My question is at my age (45) wouldn't blast and cruise be a better option? Is blast and cruise only for people that have a few cycles and PCT under their belt (so to speak) ? I'm definitely intrigued...

It depends entirely on whether or not you can sustain healthy natural testosterone levels or not. If you can, I would continue to PCT until you have to. Get tested and see where you are at when you are not on cycle. Two years ago I started blasting and cruising because my natural levels were in the tank, and I just couldn't maintain healthy levels any longer. I literally couldn't get my levels over 200 despite throwing the kitchen sink at recovery. It's definitely a viable option at your age, and as you get older it becomes harder and harder to have those good test levels. I'm 41 myself

Ok... I see now how important getting tested is...

Yeh I always recovered well and had good levels, did PCT, felt great, etc. It's when I did a real long cycle (18 weeks) with several different compounds, and a very tough contest prep diet and lots of cardio that led to me just not recovering afterwards. I felt like complete death and I knew something was wrong. I had zero motivation or drive for the gym, sex drive was in the toilet, muscle mass and strength was declining, and fat gain was coming on when my diet was spot on. My blood tests just confirmed my suspicions. I've been on TRT since then and it's been life changing.

Wow... Do you have to go to a special Dr. for TRT or is that just something you do yourself?

You can go to your general practitioner and usually get TRT just fine from your doc as long as you qualify. The problem is that a lot of doctors out there are fairly clueless on TRT and just don't have the proper knowledge about it to set you up on a good protocol. A lot of docs will want to put you on the gel (don't go for that crap) or do biweekly or even every three week injections which gives you blood levels all over the place. You want to do a minimum of weekly injections. I qualified through my doctor for TRT, but since then I have been self prescribing because my doc and I didn't quite see eye to eye on proper dosage and injection frequency. I know my numbers and I know my blood work and where I need to be. I know that 200mg of Test C shot once per week is my sweet spot, and that my numbers are at around 900 6 days post injection. It's sad, but a lot of us that really acquire the knowledge on these things know miles above what the doctors do about these sorts of things. These are things they studied over one chapter during med school and just don't have the knowledge to do things properly. Sometimes you will get lucky and find a doc that really knows his stuff. Another option is checking into an anti-aging clinic or finding an endocrinologist in your area. They will know their shit, and that's really what you need to be cared for properly if you want a legal legit script

 

[JM750]

Rick is right. Most regular docs are clueless. And depending on where you live, some dont even want to give you a script for test. I just self medicate. At my age. I feel great and got plenty of mojo.

 

[cmb5017]

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Blast/Cruise vs Cycle/PCT

I think I got the basic understanding of each. My question is at my age (45) wouldn't blast and cruise be a better option? Is blast and cruise only for people that have a few cycles and PCT under their belt (so to speak) ? I'm definitely intrigued...

It depends entirely on whether or not you can sustain healthy natural testosterone levels or not. If you can, I would continue to PCT until you have to. Get tested and see where you are at when you are not on cycle. Two years ago I started blasting and cruising because my natural levels were in the tank, and I just couldn't maintain healthy levels any longer. I literally couldn't get my levels over 200 despite throwing the kitchen sink at recovery. It's definitely a viable option at your age, and as you get older it becomes harder and harder to have those good test levels. I'm 41 myself

Ok... I see now how important getting tested is...

Here in NC its hard as shit to get a script. .even if ur reading on the low side they want to go with cialis or androgel. They really just ignorant to the problem as u said. Ive always had a theory though but never tried it and that was, run some test for a month and stop cold turkey wait till week 3 and get tested...when ur levels should be rock bottom. Then maybe they'll write a script then tweek it yourself like u did

Yeh I always recovered well and had good levels, did PCT, felt great, etc. It's when I did a real long cycle (18 weeks) with several different compounds, and a very tough contest prep diet and lots of cardio that led to me just not recovering afterwards. I felt like complete death and I knew something was wrong. I had zero motivation or drive for the gym, sex drive was in the toilet, muscle mass and strength was declining, and fat gain was coming on when my diet was spot on. My blood tests just confirmed my suspicions. I've been on TRT since then and it's been life changing.

Wow... Do you have to go to a special Dr. for TRT or is that just something you do yourself?

You can go to your general practitioner and usually get TRT just fine from your doc as long as you qualify. The problem is that a lot of doctors out there are fairly clueless on TRT and just don't have the proper knowledge about it to set you up on a good protocol. A lot of docs will want to put you on the gel (don't go for that crap) or do biweekly or even every three week injections which gives you blood levels all over the place. You want to do a minimum of weekly injections. I qualified through my doctor for TRT, but since then I have been self prescribing because my doc and I didn't quite see eye to eye on proper dosage and injection frequency. I know my numbers and I know my blood work and where I need to be. I know that 200mg of Test C shot once per week is my sweet spot, and that my numbers are at around 900 6 days post injection. It's sad, but a lot of us that really acquire the knowledge on these things know miles above what the doctors do about these sorts of things. These are things they studied over one chapter during med school and just don't have the knowledge to do things properly. Sometimes you will get lucky and find a doc that really knows his stuff. Another option is checking into an anti-aging clinic or finding an endocrinologist in your area. They will know their shit, and that's really what you need to be cared for properly if you want a legal legit script

 

[DylanGemelli]

I think I got the basic understanding of each. My question is at my age (45) wouldn't blast and cruise be a better option? Is blast and cruise only for people that have a few cycles and PCT under their belt (so to speak) ? I'm definitely intrigued...

I think you grasp this quite well here bro... I understand where you are coming from but you don't just jump on it permanently without knowing if you need to or not... get all the necessary tests and go from there... you never want to just start without knowing if its necessary first though brother... if your noticing symptoms coupled with the numbers to confirm it then absolutely... just go about it the right way as im sure you will...

 

[cbbram00]

Thanks fellas... Wealth of information here... Definitely going to get my test first...

 

[Bio-Tech]

Cruising with a blast or two a year is not as much of a rollercoaster as Cycle/PCT.

 

[JM750]

Cruising with a blast or two a year is not as much of a rollercoaster as Cycle/PCT.

Exactly! But the cruise n blast is not something for the young guys. Imho. The op could be a good canidate tho

 

[TheSVPdeal]

He's 45

 

[cbbram00]

What's the most common dose of test during a cruise? Does it need to be adjusted according to blood levels?

 

[TheSVPdeal]

150-200

 

[RickRock]

Re: RE: Re: Blast/Cruise vs Cycle/PCT

What's the most common dose of test during a cruise? Does it need to be adjusted according to blood levels?

People cruise at different dosages, but as SVP put it, 150-200mg is the norm. A good way to determine is through bloodwork. I would find whatever dosage pyts you into the upper normal range. That's what I do, which 200mg test C seems to work well for me

 

[cbbram00]

So... one normally cruises on that dose and blasts 2 or 3 times per year?

 

[DylanGemelli]

So... one normally cruises on that dose and blasts 2 or 3 times per year?

It depends how long your blasts are... Quite a difference if your doing 8 week cycles as opposed to 20... There is no magic number on that