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What is your test:tren ratio?

DylanGemelli

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I often see differing opinions on the test:tren ratio when on cycle. Some believe you should always run tren higher than test to combat sides while others prefer to run test far higher and see to have no problems... There is actually a significant difference in opinion on this topic, so I ask all you tren users, which do you prefer and why?


I have personally always been a believer in running tren higher than test or at the minimum, equal to. I feel that with the estrogen conversion present with test, it only adds to the high probability of many sides that could occur with tren use. It may or may not happen to some but this is a decisive factor. I am actually a believer that ANY cycle should let the other compounds shine and test should do what it does best, support and be the back bone of the cycle. I never recommend nor run any type of cycle without test and believe that it is the backbone of any and every cycle however, i have never advocated nor believed in the massive test doses I have seen ran on may occasions. That does not mean that is true for everyone or every circumstance by any means whatsoever.. That is MY stance on it but I already know there are plenty of arguments in the other favor and that is completely fine... That is what makes this beautiful for all of us... We can see and learn from one another on different methods and protocols. I learn something new every day and find new reasoning and science to back up things I may have been against before. An open mind is the key here but it is also good to provide each of our own insight and reasoning to compare and learn, not argue... Often times I see too many people get too sensitive or quick to react, and I have been guilty of this in the past... The KEY here is for EVERYONE to provide their own insight, compare, learn and maybe even try another method... I have been wrong a million times and have openly admitted it when I see a better way... It is just great to share and learn and I hope we can all do that together!

That being said, WHAT IS YOUR METHOD??
 
I usually do tren during prep.. so It depends cause I manipulate my test:tren ratio as I get closer to show. 8 weeks out I think Test was at 750mg/wk and I think Tren was at about 175. So what I do to get harder and what I notice works is I'll up my tren while I lower my test as the weeks go by. 4 weeks out test is lowered to 350 so my ratios change up.
 
I have ran test and Tren just about every way imaginable. I've done high test with low Tren, high Tren with low test, and I've also ran them even. I felt my best results was last summer when I ran test and Tren at the same dose (600mg weekly each). Though, my current cycle I'm running now I am going back to lower test with higher Tren at a 2:1 ratio (600mg Tren weekly with 300mg test weekly), and the reason for this is to create a much more dry and ripped physique since that is my goal for the summer. I want to add a little lean mass, but my primary concern is getting very dry, grainy, vascular, and shredded. So, in theory what I do with my test or Tren depends on the current goal. If it's,muscle and strength gain, I would run my test and Tren the same as that did wonders for me last year
 
low test 200mg / week 500mg/tren

medium test 350mg/week 650-700mg/tren

Tried higher test lower tren but I don't ever run high test, tren is the strongest compound on the planet I like to let it do its thing. I also experience less sides with lower test.. But no matter what cycle I run I don't really run high test so there is obvious a lot of variance here from user to user
 
Right now I'm on 1:4

I never run test higher than 150 any longer. I have no desire to puff out any more. The test keeps my libido strong and my well being up.

This basically puts me on a tren only cycle. I get all the super freak benefits of tren and super libido with no sides to speak of.

Glad that Dylan posted this as I've been wanting to address some things.

People are all so worried about prolactin issues on nandrolones.

We know that estrogen and prolactin are tied together. I would venture to say that most dudes are not running test at replacement dose while running their nandrolones.

Most guys are running test at 500+ and then their nandrolones. Their estrogen levels elevate and prolactin tied, goes up as well.

Now we all need an anti prolactin. I'm sure if we took a poll to see who's run tren only or Deca only (don't know anyone that's run Deca only), the dudes that have were probably all labeled as good responders who don't often get sides.

With my test at 150 (it's there all year), I don't use an AI because I don't need it. Estrogen stays in check so even with tren at 600, I have no use for an AI because my prolactin is low along with test.

In your quest to experiment and learn yourself, I push you all to see what happens.
 
Right now I'm on 1:4

I never run test higher than 150 any longer. I have no desire to puff out any more. The test keeps my libido strong and my well being up.

This basically puts me on a tren only cycle. I get all the super freak benefits of tren and super libido with no sides to speak of.

Glad that Dylan posted this as I've been wanting to address some things.

People are all so worried about prolactin issues on nandrolones.

We know that estrogen and prolactin are tied together. I would venture to say that most dudes are not running test at replacement dose while running their nandrolones.

Most guys are running test at 500+ and then their nandrolones. Their estrogen levels elevate and prolactin tied, goes up as well.

Now we all need an anti prolactin. I'm sure if we took a poll to see who's run tren only or Deca only (don't know anyone that's run Deca only), the dudes that have were probably all labeled as good responders who don't often get sides.

With my test at 150 (it's there all year), I don't use an AI because I don't need it. Estrogen stays in check so even with tren at 600, I have no use for an AI because my prolactin is low along with test.

In your quest to experiment and learn yourself, I push you all to see what happens.
 
I'm liking running the test lower then the Tren. I haven't felt too many sides other then being a little hotter then normal, so we are good to go on that front.

But I'm going to drop the test down to about 250mg and up my Tren to about 600mg and go from there.
 
TheSVPdeal said:
Right now I'm on 1:4

I never run test higher than 150 any longer. I have no desire to puff out any more. The test keeps my libido strong and my well being up.

This basically puts me on a tren only cycle. I get all the super freak benefits of tren and super libido with no sides to speak of.

Glad that Dylan posted this as I've been wanting to address some things.

People are all so worried about prolactin issues on nandrolones.

We know that estrogen and prolactin are tied together. I would venture to say that most dudes are not running test at replacement dose while running their nandrolones.

Most guys are running test at 500+ and then their nandrolones. Their estrogen levels elevate and prolactin tied, goes up as well.

Now we all need an anti prolactin. I'm sure if we took a poll to see who's run tren only or Deca only (don't know anyone that's run Deca only), the dudes that have were probably all labeled as good responders who don't often get sides.

With my test at 150 (it's there all year), I don't use an AI because I don't need it. Estrogen stays in check so even with tren at 600, I have no use for an AI because my prolactin is low along with test.

In your quest to experiment and learn yourself, I push you all to see what happens.

We already spoke about this and I like this mindset the best. I personally would never NOT have an AI on deck, but that my personal preference. Glad you posted this SVP.
 
Tim Ferris talks about the questions that we ask.

He says that studies show that vegetarians have less instance of heart disease so people immediately jump to the conclusion that meat can cause heart disease. In truth, the question should be asked if a higher consumption of vegetables decreases the risk of heart disease.

Correlation does not imply causation.
 
Re: RE: Re: What is your test:tren ratio?

TheSVPdeal said:
Right now I'm on 1:4

I never run test higher than 150 any longer. I have no desire to puff out any more. The test keeps my libido strong and my well being up.

This basically puts me on a tren only cycle. I get all the super freak benefits of tren and super libido with no sides to speak of.

Glad that Dylan posted this as I've been wanting to address some things.

People are all so worried about prolactin issues on nandrolones.

We know that estrogen and prolactin are tied together. I would venture to say that most dudes are not running test at replacement dose while running their nandrolones.

Most guys are running test at 500+ and then their nandrolones. Their estrogen levels elevate and prolactin tied, goes up as well.

Now we all need an anti prolactin. I'm sure if we took a poll to see who's run tren only or Deca only (don't know anyone that's run Deca only), the dudes that have were probably all labeled as good responders who don't often get sides.

With my test at 150 (it's there all year), I don't use an AI because I don't need it. Estrogen stays in check so even with tren at 600, I have no use for an AI because my prolactin is low along with test.

In your quest to experiment and learn yourself, I push you all to see what happens.
That is true for a lot of people, but not everyone. I don't have to worry much about aromatization with high levels of test so I don't get the same side effects as everyone else. I think it has a lot to do with how estrogen sensitive you are. That's why I do so well with high test at any time. Everyone is different
 
Lower test, higher tren yields less side effects for me personally.


"At the age of six I wanted to be a cook. At seven I wanted to be Napoleon. And my ambition has been growing steadily ever since."
 
Olympus said:
Lower test, higher tren yields less side effects for me personally.


"At the age of six I wanted to be a cook. At seven I wanted to be Napoleon. And my ambition has been growing steadily ever since."
How do you view my theory
 
TheSVPdeal said:
I'm waiting for somebody to run with me. Test 150/tren 800/mast 800. No AI (but I have it just in case).

Pretty much what Im doing now brother , and when my tren is out im running primo 800mg/week with the mast then winny last 6 weeks


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TheSVPdeal said:
Right now I'm on 1:4

I never run test higher than 150 any longer. I have no desire to puff out any more. The test keeps my libido strong and my well being up.

This basically puts me on a tren only cycle. I get all the super freak benefits of tren and super libido with no sides to speak of.

Glad that Dylan posted this as I've been wanting to address some things.

People are all so worried about prolactin issues on nandrolones.

We know that estrogen and prolactin are tied together. I would venture to say that most dudes are not running test at replacement dose while running their nandrolones.

Most guys are running test at 500+ and then their nandrolones. Their estrogen levels elevate and prolactin tied, goes up as well.

Now we all need an anti prolactin. I'm sure if we took a poll to see who's run tren only or Deca only (don't know anyone that's run Deca only), the dudes that have were probably all labeled as good responders who don't often get sides.

With my test at 150 (it's there all year), I don't use an AI because I don't need it. Estrogen stays in check so even with tren at 600, I have no use for an AI because my prolactin is low along with test.

In your quest to experiment and learn yourself, I push you all to see what happens.
Good info here. Low test usually results in less sides with other compounds and chems. Good philosophy.
 
Ya know I like just a good low dose of like 500mgtest and 150-200 tren so about 5/1.5


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