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test flu?

DylanGemelli said:
krill89 said:
DylanGemelli said:
a lot of orals can make you feel like shit... when your liver really disagrees or is not proceessing properly then that is a first indicator... headaches, lethargy, painful pumps etc... that's why i often go with half doses... you can't avoid toxicity, that's how they are made, although some have more than others... the two best preventative methods are using some sort of cycle support and testing doses and going a bit lower... not to mention when you get a rise in blood pressure, lipid and cholesterol issues, etc... it becomes very problematic and needs to be addressed... this is why sarms a such an excellent addition or even substitute... why get the nasty sides from dbol when you can use tbol stacked with lgd and get that kind of size without the estrogen, the harsher sides etc... or instead of running something weaker like anavar, run gw and s4 instead... its just a nice alternative to have... just keep in mind, when you run an oral, chances are you will experience so if not all of these sides....

How would you rate winstrol on the " toxicity scale " compared to dbol? Im about to hopp on winstrol and it's been a while since. I remember the vascularity, but cant say there was any harsh side's, but this was at 30mg ed. Going to be doing 50mg ed this time around though. I can mention again that dbol make's me feel like dog shit.. lol


winstrol is considered to be more in the top tier of toxicity than other orals but personally, i have never had any sort of issue other than lethargy when i dosed too high and that is clearly due to the toxicity to the liver... dbol is going to have more toxicity and definitely possess more sides than winstrol especially with the high amounts of estrogen conversion... you definitely need to take winstrol very serious but you have NO concern of estrogen conversion, generally you are getting terrible back pumps with dbol which you normally do not with winstrol but you could have joint pain with winstrol the later you get in the cycle, which is combated with mk-2866 use... make sure you have some type of cycle protection with winstrol because it can hurt cholesterol on top of toxicity that is present but all in all, i never have personally felt winstrol to be as harsh as made out to be

Thank's man. GW would be a good option here for cholesterol?
 
redsnapper812006 said:
Only problem I'm having is knotting up real bad.... On my third shot and still knotted up and tender from the first one .... This didn't happen my whole last cycle pinning in the glutes .... What causes this? Thinking about going in the shoulder today with a 1 inch 23g

thats a little big for the delt... go with 25 gauge 1 inch

your knotting up now could be several things... did you switch sources ? perhaps its the carrier oil or did you switch needles, injection sites etc.?
 
krill89 said:
DylanGemelli said:
krill89 said:
DylanGemelli said:
a lot of orals can make you feel like shit... when your liver really disagrees or is not proceessing properly then that is a first indicator... headaches, lethargy, painful pumps etc... that's why i often go with half doses... you can't avoid toxicity, that's how they are made, although some have more than others... the two best preventative methods are using some sort of cycle support and testing doses and going a bit lower... not to mention when you get a rise in blood pressure, lipid and cholesterol issues, etc... it becomes very problematic and needs to be addressed... this is why sarms a such an excellent addition or even substitute... why get the nasty sides from dbol when you can use tbol stacked with lgd and get that kind of size without the estrogen, the harsher sides etc... or instead of running something weaker like anavar, run gw and s4 instead... its just a nice alternative to have... just keep in mind, when you run an oral, chances are you will experience so if not all of these sides....

How would you rate winstrol on the " toxicity scale " compared to dbol? Im about to hopp on winstrol and it's been a while since. I remember the vascularity, but cant say there was any harsh side's, but this was at 30mg ed. Going to be doing 50mg ed this time around though. I can mention again that dbol make's me feel like dog shit.. lol


winstrol is considered to be more in the top tier of toxicity than other orals but personally, i have never had any sort of issue other than lethargy when i dosed too high and that is clearly due to the toxicity to the liver... dbol is going to have more toxicity and definitely possess more sides than winstrol especially with the high amounts of estrogen conversion... you definitely need to take winstrol very serious but you have NO concern of estrogen conversion, generally you are getting terrible back pumps with dbol which you normally do not with winstrol but you could have joint pain with winstrol the later you get in the cycle, which is combated with mk-2866 use... make sure you have some type of cycle protection with winstrol because it can hurt cholesterol on top of toxicity that is present but all in all, i never have personally felt winstrol to be as harsh as made out to be

Thank's man. GW would be a good option here for cholesterol?

EXACTLY... gw was originally created for THAT purpose and it is awesome for fixing cholesterol issues... it increases HDL and lowers LDL which is exactly what you want
 
DylanGemelli said:
redsnapper812006 said:
Only problem I'm having is knotting up real bad.... On my third shot and still knotted up and tender from the first one .... This didn't happen my whole last cycle pinning in the glutes .... What causes this? Thinking about going in the shoulder today with a 1 inch 23g

thats a little big for the delt... go with 25 gauge 1 inch

your knotting up now could be several things... did you switch sources ? perhaps its the carrier oil or did you switch needles, injection sites etc.?



My first cycle i used United Anabolics test E and i loved it...i rotated glute pins ...This cycle I'm using Phurious Pharma sust. 300 i'm drawing with a 18g and shooting with a 23g.... my glutes was still knotted up from last week so i went ahead and shot in the thigh.....
 
redsnapper812006 said:
DylanGemelli said:
redsnapper812006 said:
Only problem I'm having is knotting up real bad.... On my third shot and still knotted up and tender from the first one .... This didn't happen my whole last cycle pinning in the glutes .... What causes this? Thinking about going in the shoulder today with a 1 inch 23g

thats a little big for the delt... go with 25 gauge 1 inch

your knotting up now could be several things... did you switch sources ? perhaps its the carrier oil or did you switch needles, injection sites etc.?



My first cycle i used United Anabolics test E and i loved it...i rotated glute pins ...This cycle I'm using Phurious Pharma sust. 300 i'm drawing with a 18g and shooting with a 23g.... my glutes was still knotted up from last week so i went ahead and shot in the thigh.....


I've used Phurious injectables and they were butter smooth but I am not sure what he uses for carrier so you may want to ask him.... Try your delt but get a higher gauge at 25 for it
 
DylanGemelli said:
redsnapper812006 said:
DylanGemelli said:
redsnapper812006 said:
Only problem I'm having is knotting up real bad.... On my third shot and still knotted up and tender from the first one .... This didn't happen my whole last cycle pinning in the glutes .... What causes this? Thinking about going in the shoulder today with a 1 inch 23g

thats a little big for the delt... go with 25 gauge 1 inch

your knotting up now could be several things... did you switch sources ? perhaps its the carrier oil or did you switch needles, injection sites etc.?



My first cycle i used United Anabolics test E and i loved it...i rotated glute pins ...This cycle I'm using Phurious Pharma sust. 300 i'm drawing with a 18g and shooting with a 23g.... my glutes was still knotted up from last week so i went ahead and shot in the thigh.....


I've used Phurious injectables and they were butter smooth but I am not sure what he uses for carrier so you may want to ask him.... Try your delt but get a higher gauge at 25 for it

Hey Dylan. A while back you posted a video about delt injections but I can't find it anywhere. Do you happen to still have it on hand. Hoping to give it a shot Friday.
 
Re: RE: Re: test flu?

redsnapper812006 said:
DylanGemelli said:
redsnapper812006 said:
Only problem I'm having is knotting up real bad.... On my third shot and still knotted up and tender from the first one .... This didn't happen my whole last cycle pinning in the glutes .... What causes this? Thinking about going in the shoulder today with a 1 inch 23g

thats a little big for the delt... go with 25 gauge 1 inch

your knotting up now could be several things... did you switch sources ? perhaps its the carrier oil or did you switch needles, injection sites etc.?



My first cycle i used United Anabolics test E and i loved it...i rotated glute pins ...This cycle I'm using Phurious Pharma sust. 300 i'm drawing with a 18g and shooting with a 23g.... my glutes was still knotted up from last week so i went ahead and shot in the thigh.....
I was of the understanding that Sust has more PIP due to the shorter esters within the blend. I've personally never used Sust but I have a friend that has and he always mentioned PIP...
 
krill89 said:
DylanGemelli said:
krill89 said:
DylanGemelli said:
a lot of orals can make you feel like shit... when your liver really disagrees or is not proceessing properly then that is a first indicator... headaches, lethargy, painful pumps etc... that's why i often go with half doses... you can't avoid toxicity, that's how they are made, although some have more than others... the two best preventative methods are using some sort of cycle support and testing doses and going a bit lower... not to mention when you get a rise in blood pressure, lipid and cholesterol issues, etc... it becomes very problematic and needs to be addressed... this is why sarms a such an excellent addition or even substitute... why get the nasty sides from dbol when you can use tbol stacked with lgd and get that kind of size without the estrogen, the harsher sides etc... or instead of running something weaker like anavar, run gw and s4 instead... its just a nice alternative to have... just keep in mind, when you run an oral, chances are you will experience so if not all of these sides....

How would you rate winstrol on the " toxicity scale " compared to dbol? Im about to hopp on winstrol and it's been a while since. I remember the vascularity, but cant say there was any harsh side's, but this was at 30mg ed. Going to be doing 50mg ed this time around though. I can mention again that dbol make's me feel like dog shit.. lol


winstrol is considered to be more in the top tier of toxicity than other orals but personally, i have never had any sort of issue other than lethargy when i dosed too high and that is clearly due to the toxicity to the liver... dbol is going to have more toxicity and definitely possess more sides than winstrol especially with the high amounts of estrogen conversion... you definitely need to take winstrol very serious but you have NO concern of estrogen conversion, generally you are getting terrible back pumps with dbol which you normally do not with winstrol but you could have joint pain with winstrol the later you get in the cycle, which is combated with mk-2866 use... make sure you have some type of cycle protection with winstrol because it can hurt cholesterol on top of toxicity that is present but all in all, i never have personally felt winstrol to be as harsh as made out to be

Thank's man. GW would be a good option here for cholesterol?

GW is awesome for improving cholesterol values. That's why I recommend it while on any cycle to help,with lipid strain
 
Re: RE: Re: test flu?

Saiyan said:
DylanGemelli said:
redsnapper812006 said:
DylanGemelli said:
redsnapper812006 said:
Only problem I'm having is knotting up real bad.... On my third shot and still knotted up and tender from the first one .... This didn't happen my whole last cycle pinning in the glutes .... What causes this? Thinking about going in the shoulder today with a 1 inch 23g

thats a little big for the delt... go with 25 gauge 1 inch

your knotting up now could be several things... did you switch sources ? perhaps its the carrier oil or did you switch needles, injection sites etc.?



My first cycle i used United Anabolics test E and i loved it...i rotated glute pins ...This cycle I'm using Phurious Pharma sust. 300 i'm drawing with a 18g and shooting with a 23g.... my glutes was still knotted up from last week so i went ahead and shot in the thigh.....


I've used Phurious injectables and they were butter smooth but I am not sure what he uses for carrier so you may want to ask him.... Try your delt but get a higher gauge at 25 for it

Hey Dylan. A while back you posted a video about delt injections but I can't find it anywhere. Do you happen to still have it on hand. Hoping to give it a shot Friday.
If you don't find a video find the bone at the top of the shoulder use use your index and middle fingers together and inject right below where your fingers are. The inner and outer delt is supposed to be the most painless, however some guys can't reach far enough back to hit the back part of the delt. If you are using a 1" needle try to angle very slightly downward. I'm really lean and I use 5/8" 25g in both the delts and quads. As long as you're getting into the muscle pretty well you're all set. The big nerve in your arm wraps around the inside of your shoulder joint. That's how I was taught to do it in emt school and what personally works for me. Just don't go dead center of the middle of the delt you'll irritate the nerve in there or possibly hit a small blood vessel. Just remember to clean the shit out of the whole area, go down 2 finger lengths and aspirate and you should be good as long as you don't inject a shit ton in there. Good luck.

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Saiyan said:
DylanGemelli said:
redsnapper812006 said:
DylanGemelli said:
redsnapper812006 said:
Only problem I'm having is knotting up real bad.... On my third shot and still knotted up and tender from the first one .... This didn't happen my whole last cycle pinning in the glutes .... What causes this? Thinking about going in the shoulder today with a 1 inch 23g

thats a little big for the delt... go with 25 gauge 1 inch

your knotting up now could be several things... did you switch sources ? perhaps its the carrier oil or did you switch needles, injection sites etc.?



My first cycle i used United Anabolics test E and i loved it...i rotated glute pins ...This cycle I'm using Phurious Pharma sust. 300 i'm drawing with a 18g and shooting with a 23g.... my glutes was still knotted up from last week so i went ahead and shot in the thigh.....


I've used Phurious injectables and they were butter smooth but I am not sure what he uses for carrier so you may want to ask him.... Try your delt but get a higher gauge at 25 for it

Hey Dylan. A while back you posted a video about delt injections but I can't find it anywhere. Do you happen to still have it on hand. Hoping to give it a shot Friday.


here you go bro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4EMfuLsC10
 
How can I help ease my PIP? Pinned the thigh Monday night and it's swoll and I cannot bend it.... I know it party has to do with virgin muscles but I also had PIP from glute injection.... This sustanon is killing me
 
The carrier has always been gso.

Sust will give u some pip. Due to the test prop in it. Alot of times pip cones from where u stick it. Like if u catch a nerve or something. Also injection tempo. You need to inject slow and steady.

Where in your glute or quad did u inject it?


PHURIOUS PHARMA
 
You will experience more pip if this is your first cycle. Because your muscles arnt used to be stuck. Pip comes from so many things.


PHURIOUS PHARMA
 
This is my second cycle ... First cycle of test e rotated glutes .... i injected in the gluteus medius and in the thigh would be the vastus lateralis ... I don't inject super slow but not fast...
 
Hmmm. Try doing it on like a 30 sec count.

I know the test prop and tpp in it can cause pip but not always. If its really bugging you after a few more injects i can exchange them for some cypionate or test e if u want.


PHURIOUS PHARMA
 
test prop is one that can definitely cause PIP... i have never had it bother me but i know many that have... sometimes its the injection being done and it should be done at normal speed but definitely not too fast... delts for me have always been the easiest injection with the smoothest experience but everyone is different on this...
 
redsnapper812006 said:
How can I help ease my PIP? Pinned the thigh Monday night and it's swoll and I cannot bend it.... I know it party has to do with virgin muscles but I also had PIP from glute injection.... This sustanon is killing me


What gauge needle and length are you using? Are you switching needles after drawing?
 
RickRock said:
redsnapper812006 said:
How can I help ease my PIP? Pinned the thigh Monday night and it's swoll and I cannot bend it.... I know it party has to do with virgin muscles but I also had PIP from glute injection.... This sustanon is killing me


What gauge needle and length are you using? Are you switching needles after drawing?



injecting with 1 inch 23g i have 1.5 inch 23g....yes switching..... i'm drawing with a 18g....
 
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