I was pushing myself bro. I could only do 225 for about 6 reps. I'm doing 405 for 6 reps now. Maybe tbol did play a role but I sure didn't notice it early in the cycle until this week. That's why I'm assuming it's test. I'll just try another compound next cycle. Not tbol though.
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21infantry
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Either way, its more likely the TBol then the Test in my opinion I'm not a expert like Dylan is or anything but my experience with Test Cyp says its not the Test. I know that in some Users TBol just shows up out of nowhere with a bang late in the cycle. Not everybody experiences the same linear progression of strength gains. I am all over the place when it comes to strength gains. Test I am slow steady and consistent, when I run var I don't get any strength gains up front but all of a sudden bang its hits out of nowhere.
SpikedEggnog
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there is no way you jump from 225 to 405 on squats with just Test. even Test + Tbol i cannot see you jumping that much that quickly, but you were taking 60-70mg TBOL so that is a very high dose, and test wont give you that massive jumpm so that had to be TBol. in my experience TBol is a very slow gain but it is very clean too. no water. pure muscle. the best thing i like about Tbol is it gets you hard and vascular. the strength is nice dont get me wrong but i love that vascularity and hardness. it seems like Dbol had a baby with Winny. that is why people think it doesnt do much because they dont see drastic changes that they expect..but Tbol is a derivative of Dbol in case you didnt know. its basically like a bit weaker Dbol with no estrogen sides.
i dont understand what is up with your Tbol but you said they were different colors. you should PM pharmalady and inquire about that, maybe there was a defect product or something..this should have been addressed first before you finished taking it..
i dont understand what is up with your Tbol but you said they were different colors. you should PM pharmalady and inquire about that, maybe there was a defect product or something..this should have been addressed first before you finished taking it..
SpikedEggnog
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yes 20-30 is a nice dose, despite what people think.
I'm dead serious I went up that much on squats. Last week and a half I was stuck at 365 now I'm at 405. Something is definitely working. I did pm Pharma lady in that regard. I haven't heard anything yet but I will keep you all posted. By the way, I did save some tbol. Both colored pills. Rick is right, maybe I was expecting too much but even then, I didn't feel hard or vascular.
SpikedEggnog
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ok, well feeling is one thing. but if your squat jumped that much the TBol had to be doing something. Test is not going to kick that hard..
21infantry
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Like spiked said. I don't have any altered sense on t bol or any other compound. So feeling it may not happen. You take it, over anaylize it don't fill it get dissapointed by no gains. Come back to the mirror 3 weeks later and say holy shit you have been working.
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SpikedEggnog
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yeah i mean if his squat really went from 225 to 405 then the TBol did something, thats for DANG sure
yeah bro, this is not the first time you said you were a non responder to something so something there is not right... im not sure what it is because its too hard to tell when your using multiple compounds but on a long estered test, you wont really notice anything until 4 weeks in and test alone will definitely not cause strength increases of that magnitude... they will definitely increase strength, but not that drastically... its too hard to ascertain what is going on here...
21infantry
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rockmfhudd
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speaking of fat 21 did that cottage cheese shit go away?
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cbbram00
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Pharma Lady has encouraged me to tell members if they have a problem or concern such as this to inform a rep (SpikedEggnog or myself) or herself for the matter to be taken into consideration.
Please address issues such as this as soon as possible... Don't wait till after the fact.
Thanks...
Maximus PC
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If you're anything like me, my test is so low, and shbg is high, that when I do a low dose of anything my strength skyrockets in about 4 weeks. Prop 10 days and 135 bb curl goes to a 145 for same reps, for example.
I cannot speak about your tbol experience, havent had any experience with that yet.
I cannot speak about your tbol experience, havent had any experience with that yet.
almost sounds like magic lol. thats insane jumps.
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cbbram00
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Thanks for sharing that information...
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