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Taking Juice while on pain killers..

Maybe I'm a mentally strong person but I went to rehab after being addicted to Heroin for a year, pain killers for 10 yrs. The rehab clinic gave me Suboxone for a month. The first 2 years were the hardest. I gave my car away so I couldn't drive to the other side of town to score and dropped all ties with associated people. I've been clean for almost 6 years. You have to put your mind to it... It's all in your mind bro...

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Congrats on your sobriety bother!! Great achievement
 
Wow

I never would have though theres so many nice people here. I was so hesitant to make the post, I thought id get responses like "just quit it your weak" but for everyone who has ever dealt with opiod addiction its the worst and never really goes away. I know so many people who have died trying to quit then relapsing and dying right away... people in jail ect ect. I sometimes get dreams of relapsing.. every dream i somehow land a huge pile of shit and im like running home to do it and wake up right before i do it in the dream and be covered in sweat. heh

Along with suboxone i was prescribed xanax, and that became my new drug... I needed to do atleast 14mg or more to "get high" my tolerance built up so quick. about 4 months ago. I took 3 weeks off work.. and locked myself in my room... it was horrible.. almost felt worse than dope withdrawl.. I puked.. started seeing shit.. felt like shit for about 7-9 days then it was mental after.. it was so weird when I saw my doctor and told her no when she gave me a refill.. she even was like huh why? I told her I quit it..she was mad cause shes like you can have seizure/die by going cold turkey.. I told her thats why i didnt tell you.. I didnt want more excuses and maned up.

Anyway for anyone dealing with addiction good luck guys, never think you over came it.. thats how you start lying to yr self "ill just do it once..ect"

I really like the newer me going to the gym and working out, everyone tells me I look better.. The reason why I asked about if subs/painkillers effect test shots is because although i did gain weight since starting test cyp about 16 days ago.. I remember feeling more "on" when i took oral prohormones a few years back.. not sure if the test is taking time to build up or this is how it is.. its def working but idk i remmeber feeling super tight and strong on prohormones.. the test isnt making my muscles super hard although they are getting bigger

I am starting to look like how I did when i used to be an athlete in school.. still not there...but hopefully over time ill look better then i ever was.. :)
 
I actually used that herbal stuff called Kratom to help with the sub withdraw. I know exactly how it feels to have to try and work while going through that shit. Kratom is weird and hits the same receptors as Suboxone but doesn't really get you high, it's just a mellow feeling and took the edge off a bit.
 
I have tried Kratom it didnt work for me... I think it does work.. but subs got my tolerance way too high.. i might try it again when i completely get off to overcome the short term withdrawls
 
Wow

I never would have though theres so many nice people here. I was so hesitant to make the post, I thought id get responses like "just quit it your weak" but for everyone who has ever dealt with opiod addiction its the worst and never really goes away. I know so many people who have died trying to quit then relapsing and dying right away... people in jail ect ect. I sometimes get dreams of relapsing.. every dream i somehow land a huge pile of shit and im like running home to do it and wake up right before i do it in the dream and be covered in sweat. heh

Along with suboxone i was prescribed xanax, and that became my new drug... I needed to do atleast 14mg or more to "get high" my tolerance built up so quick. about 4 months ago. I took 3 weeks off work.. and locked myself in my room... it was horrible.. almost felt worse than dope withdrawl.. I puked.. started seeing shit.. felt like shit for about 7-9 days then it was mental after.. it was so weird when I saw my doctor and told her no when she gave me a refill.. she even was like huh why? I told her I quit it..she was mad cause shes like you can have seizure/die by going cold turkey.. I told her thats why i didnt tell you.. I didnt want more excuses and maned up.

Anyway for anyone dealing with addiction good luck guys, never think you over came it.. thats how you start lying to yr self "ill just do it once..ect"

I really like the newer me going to the gym and working out, everyone tells me I look better.. The reason why I asked about if subs/painkillers effect test shots is because although i did gain weight since starting test cyp about 16 days ago.. I remember feeling more "on" when i took oral prohormones a few years back.. not sure if the test is taking time to build up or this is how it is.. its def working but idk i remmeber feeling super tight and strong on prohormones.. the test isnt making my muscles super hard although they are getting bigger

I am starting to look like how I did when i used to be an athlete in school.. still not there...but hopefully over time ill look better then i ever was.. :)

Everyone is family here bro. You can always count on the best help and support you'll find anywhere.....no doubt about it


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Like I said earlier don't worry about coming off the subs. Get your shit together as much as possible first, and then think about it. There is no need to have any guilt about taking them, they work. Get into your routine and after a while if you want to come off cool. In my opinion you need more time. I have been on them since 06 ,and tried coming off many times only to relapse. The thing is that it is no one's business that you take subs,and that was the mistake I made. I would go to meetings and I talked about it and felt guilty for taking them. Now I keep it to myself and it's been almost two years since I used. It's serious shit ,don't rush ,and fuck what people say ,or think. The gym ,work and my routine, along with subs has helped me more than anything.
 
When I came off Suboxone it felt like I was carrying someone on my shoulders... Literally. I felt heavy like I had to drag myself everywhere. But every day it got less and less. Just expect this going into it and be prepared.

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This subject amazes me actually. Opiates seem to have such a strong hold on most people. I was wounded in Afghanistan and they shot me up with Morphine, hated it. When they got me back to the states and had a operation they gave me Oxy for a month afterwards, hated it. Had no problem dropping it, in fact I have a full bottle in my medicince cabinet right now, don't give it a second thought. I find it so strange that most get hooked fast and then keep on doing it and then there is people like me who don't get anything out of it. Just thinking out loud.
 
IDK how you can not like opiates. You are lucky

Opiates make me feel at peace, warm, happy... What made me more addicted is when I was on opiates I felt perfect, I can work all day and not complain..work went fast and I did better at work, was nice to people... when you start doing too much its the worst, you get super sleepy, stupid, mad.

I have seen so many friends die, go to jail..ect its so sad :(

When you are addicted to pain killers you become a DEVIL you steal from loved ones..do anything to get your next fix. Your body become dependent and just the tought of getting sick will make you do things you would swear you would never do

Heh I am trying my best to stop the suboxone, but like someone pointed out Im not going to rush, I know many people who quit and relapse.. and usually when they relapse they die because they take their last "dose" they remember and the body cant handle it... I know from experience... so I will slowly but surely get off this poison
 
went through opiate withdrawal twice...60 mg's a day for 8 Months Vicodin the last time.NEVER I MEAN NEVER again!!!!!
 
I can't say it enough. I am surrounded by people in recovery. My wife went AA/NA route. I tried that and it was not my bag. I know people,or hear about people relapsing, and dying at least once a week. Take your subs,and don't duck around and it IS easy. What I mean by that is take your dose at the same time every day. I know you know people that play games and get rid of half there script and take a half a day. I used to do that shit and I would get high. Don't talk to any of your old "freinds" duck them this is your life bro. I quit associating with any FD up people,and my life is so much better. You have it made stay on the Damm things and if and when your ready, which I can tell you are not. You will know. Not hanging out with those losers gives you more time to workout ,and get your shit all the way together. The gym and saved my life and I mean that. Be honest bro do you associate with any people that are still FD up? If so it cause turmoil . Run your gear, get huge, and conquer.
 
You call it posion. They do not bother me in the least, that is if used correctly. I actually get a little energy from them. It is not a full agonist , so your not buzzed. Not once has anyone thought I was high while on subs. Man your not doing dope, that's amazing. Do not let people make you feel like you are wrong for taking them. I feel strongly about this topic because I have lost three homes, my brother, countless "freinds" a small bussiness, wife, four vehicles. This was because I screwed around with the subs,and used them wrong. Please take them same dose,same time every day,and disassociate with the jokers, and get back to me in a month,and tell me how you feel
 
Me and both of my brothers all had a bad Oxy addiction. Sometimes smoking/snorting/injecting over 200mg OC a day. Long story short, I went to prison for almost 3 years for dealing, my brother got arrested for prescription fraud, and my other brother got on suboxone after seeing what happened to us. As of today both of my bros are on suboxone and they are on the straight and narrow and have been for years. Some people will say you're just replacing a drug with a drug, but fuck them. People will always talk shit about something they know nothing about. I am not on Suboxone but I did them for over 6 moths straight while I was locked up. Believe me when I tell you that the Withdrawls from subs are just as bad if not worse than opiates so come off of them when you are ready and do it under a doctors supervision.
 
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