T3/T4 Question

[TX TERROR]

Hey there,

Looking for some opinion on T3/T4. Now this is one thing I've never really messed with. Always been to concerned about rebound and fucking up my thyroid.

The one and only Xeno has given me the opportunity to run this stuff. If your reading this man o thank you again for all your help...50 caps of t3 25mcg/t4 100mcg

Now I'm running about 2g of tren now. I am about to completly drop test all together as I am not far out from a show... 30 days or so. Also running 100mg proviron, 90mg anavar, will be adding 10mg ed of halotestin here at the 21 day mark.

No question I'm on enough gear... diet is good cycling carbs 50p/30f/20c and 60c/30f/10c

So let's say I dose like this....
Week 1, 2 caps = 50mcg t3/200mcg t4
Week 2-5 1 cap = 25mcg t3/100mcg t4

Here ate my concerns..... let's say I drop t3/t4 2 days before the show so I can begin my final stage of filling out and dehydration. What would rebound be like?

Let's say I say fuck it in don't care about rebound, Il run it throw my show and rebound after. Would I be able to fill out properly before my show or would t3/t4 fight against me too much.

my coach and I have been busy and havnt been able to meet up for a check in, so hence why I ask here. Oddly enough I've done a lot of PED'S just never messed with this stuff.



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[cmb5017]

Hey there,

Looking for some opinion on T3/T4. Now this is one thing I've never really messed with. Always been to concerned about rebound and fucking up my thyroid.

The one and only Xeno has given me the opportunity to run this stuff. If your reading this man o thank you again for all your help...50 caps of t3 25mcg/t4 100mcg

Now I'm running about 2g of tren now. I am about to completly drop test all together as I am not far out from a show... 30 days or so. Also running 100mg proviron, 90mg anavar, will be adding 10mg ed of halotestin here at the 21 day mark.

No question I'm on enough gear... diet is good cycling carbs 50p/30f/20c and 60c/30f/10c

So let's say I dose like this....
Week 1, 2 caps = 50mcg t3/200mcg t4
Week 2-5 1 cap = 25mcg t3/100mcg t4

Here ate my concerns..... let's say I drop t3/t4 2 days before the show so I can begin my final stage of filling out and dehydration. What would rebound be like?

Let's say I say fuck it in don't care about rebound, Il run it throw my show and rebound after. Would I be able to fill out properly before my show or would t3/t4 fight against me too much.

my coach and I have been busy and havnt been able to meet up for a check in, so hence why I ask here. Oddly enough I've done a lot of PED'S just never messed with this stuff.



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All I can say is goid luck bro. 2 grams of tren. T3 n 4. Halo? I wouldn't run a cycle that dangerous if it were free!

 

[EZ_E]

I'd be very careful of asking that question to anyone else but your coach. He knows your body and what works for you.

You wouldn't want to bring in a guy who was sleeping all day to QB your team in the 4th qtr.

 

[TX TERROR]

Re: RE: Re: T3/T4 Question

I'd be very careful of asking that question to anyone else but your coach. He knows your body and what works for you.

You wouldn't want to bring in a guy who was sleeping all day to QB your team in the 4th qtr.

Oh certainly bro. I'm big on. Researching and gathering opinion. I just wanna see what people have to say. See what the general feedback is.

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[TX TERROR]

Re: RE: Re: T3/T4 Question

Hey there,

Looking for some opinion on T3/T4. Now this is one thing I've never really messed with. Always been to concerned about rebound and fucking up my thyroid.

The one and only Xeno has given me the opportunity to run this stuff. If your reading this man o thank you again for all your help...50 caps of t3 25mcg/t4 100mcg

Now I'm running about 2g of tren now. I am about to completly drop test all together as I am not far out from a show... 30 days or so. Also running 100mg proviron, 90mg anavar, will be adding 10mg ed of halotestin here at the 21 day mark.

No question I'm on enough gear... diet is good cycling carbs 50p/30f/20c and 60c/30f/10c

So let's say I dose like this....
Week 1, 2 caps = 50mcg t3/200mcg t4
Week 2-5 1 cap = 25mcg t3/100mcg t4

Here ate my concerns..... let's say I drop t3/t4 2 days before the show so I can begin my final stage of filling out and dehydration. What would rebound be like?

Let's say I say fuck it in don't care about rebound, Il run it throw my show and rebound after. Would I be able to fill out properly before my show or would t3/t4 fight against me too much.

my coach and I have been busy and havnt been able to meet up for a check in, so hence why I ask here. Oddly enough I've done a lot of PED'S just never messed with this stuff.



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All I can say is goid luck bro. 2 grams of tren. T3 n 4. Halo? I wouldn't run a cycle that dangerous if it were free!

Ha ya man its tough. I'm nervous about the halo but I cam handle it. I'm no dummy and it's not my first rodeo.

My body is really going to enjoy a nice break though.

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[wheytech]

What are your stat's bro? You must be a big mofo running 2g of tren how's it treating you? Sorry for going of topic, but 2g tren. I had to ask. Hehe

 

[JackSteel]

You're on way too much gear. Why do you feel the need for 2g of tren? No one needs that much


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[TX TERROR]

I started at 280.
I'm 6'1.

I'm now at 235.

Arms-21
Chest-53
Calves 18.5
Legs 28.5
Waist is down to 32.

I know 2g is a lot of tren I get that. It's all part of the plan and I'm sticking to it. Since upping to two grams it's given me some insane vascularity and overall it's done very well for me. This dose is going to slowly transition down starting next week. There is another transition about to happen with my cycle and it will drop the tren dose just slightly while adding in halotestin and mast.


Don't get me wrong. I know what I'm doing. I'm not just saying oh tren is cool. Let me inject a vial a week.

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[wheytech]

Would be awsome with some pic's bro!

 

[RickRock]

I don't really have any input for you on the T3/T4. I've never touched the stuff and never will. There's a whole list of stuff I won't do, and that's definitely on it.

The main thing I want to stress here, is that I don't want anyone thinking running 2g of Tren is a good idea. I'm not knocking what you are doing at all brother. Obviously you have been around a while, are a serious competitor at a higher level, and Have the stats to support your decision to use that much Tren, even though I don't agree with it. In the end we all make our own decisions, know our own bodies, and come up with our own risk versus reward.

I just don't want to see anyone thinking they will become you by running 2g of Tren. It doesn't work that way. I wish you the best of luck in your show brother

 

[DylanGemelli]

bro, in all seriousness... what are you thinking? seriously? 1. i have to think from your previous posts your far smarter than this... 2. you do realize the kind of example that sets for others and just because you want to ruin your life you should let anyone else even have the chance to follow suit... 3. i believe you already know the likely consequences of what your doing and you seem to just not care?

you know you are always free to speak your mind here and that's what the forum is all about but you should take into account all the others that you could be influencing in the wrong way before you post recklessness like this... even 1 gram of tren would be viewed as quite reckless so 2 grams? come on bro, seriously...

 

[TX TERROR]

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bro, in all seriousness... what are you thinking? seriously? 1. i have to think from your previous posts your far smarter than this... 2. you do realize the kind of example that sets for others and just because you want to ruin your life you should let anyone else even have the chance to follow suit... 3. i believe you already know the likely consequences of what your doing and you seem to just not care?

you know you are always free to speak your mind here and that's what the forum is all about but you should take into account all the others that you could be influencing in the wrong way before you post recklessness like this... even 1 gram of tren would be viewed as quite reckless so 2 grams? come on bro, seriously...

Never once have I pushed a single person to follow my path in any way. I've made that perfectly clear. I've also clarified I know the exact ramifications of what I'm doing.

Not one cycle have I just injected my body with a foreign substance to not follow it with proper protection and monitored blood work. My doctor also knows exactly what I am doing to a tee.

Secondly I'm not ot following blind advice from some random person. I'm not using just one coach I'm using 4 and we have been all working together on this for a while. Secondly I am also taking advice and suggestions from two individuals who will be in this year's olympia for men's bodybuilding. Not full coaching but I just happen to see them a few times a week at my gym and we get to talking.

Not once Dylan have I recommended this to anyone. Not once have I steered someone in the wrong direction. I can say I have a preasence at evo where we all know that's the mission and even still I'm 100% honest and in the end will tell any sponser to go fuck themselves sideways. I don't preach shit for any one. I answer everty memebers questuons with 100% legitimate advice on all fronts. I'm a stand up individual and I am 110% honest on every action I make.

Not once will you see me preach anything. I recommend based of what works for me personaly and I make that 100% clear. I believe no two individuals are the same. Everyone is unique. Advice should be taken with a grain of salt and if anything its a rough draft for an individual to reshape and make there own.

Before jumping to conclusions you should dig deeper in the sutuation. This almost 2g dose is a very short burst of approximately 2-3 weeks to blast my androgens up as a last push before show time. This is not something I've ran for a long period of time. Prior to this my dose was under a gram. This blast did exactly what I wanted it to do btw. Could not have worked out better.

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[TX TERROR]

Let's get back to the question for those who have advice on what I have initially asked. Hopefully you can see I appreciate feedback from every individual. I could easily just say screw forums all together and continue on with the recourses I already have but that's not how I roll. I like to gather opinion not just go off advice sprinkled from random individuals.

I post my question here because I value the additional insight.

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[TX TERROR]

Re: RE: Re: T3/T4 Question

I don't really have any input for you on the T3/T4. I've never touched the stuff and never will. There's a whole list of stuff I won't do, and that's definitely on it.

The main thing I want to stress here, is that I don't want anyone thinking running 2g of Tren is a good idea. I'm not knocking what you are doing at all brother. Obviously you have been around a while, are a serious competitor at a higher level, and Have the stats to support your decision to use that much Tren, even though I don't agree with it. In the end we all make our own decisions, know our own bodies, and come up with our own risk versus reward.

I just don't want to see anyone thinking they will become you by running 2g of Tren. It doesn't work that way. I wish you the best of luck in your show brother

I 100% agree man. I just responded to dylan first because it ticked me off a bit But I more than understand the concern and believe me it would never be something I recommend. But Il always be 100% with my process.

I infact am 100% against the use of tren in any degree outside a competitive level.

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[DylanGemelli]

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bro, in all seriousness... what are you thinking? seriously? 1. i have to think from your previous posts your far smarter than this... 2. you do realize the kind of example that sets for others and just because you want to ruin your life you should let anyone else even have the chance to follow suit... 3. i believe you already know the likely consequences of what your doing and you seem to just not care?

you know you are always free to speak your mind here and that's what the forum is all about but you should take into account all the others that you could be influencing in the wrong way before you post recklessness like this... even 1 gram of tren would be viewed as quite reckless so 2 grams? come on bro, seriously...

Never once have I pushed a single person to follow my path in any way. I've made that perfectly clear. I've also clarified I know the exact ramifications of what I'm doing.

Not one cycle have I just injected my body with a foreign substance to not follow it with proper protection and monitored blood work. My doctor also knows exactly what I am doing to a tee.

Secondly I'm not ot following blind advice from some random person. I'm not using just one coach I'm using 4 and we have been all working together on this for a while. Secondly I am also taking advice and suggestions from two individuals who will be in this year's olympia for men's bodybuilding. Not full coaching but I just happen to see them a few times a week at my gym and we get to talking.

Not once Dylan have I recommended this to anyone. Not once have I steered someone in the wrong direction. I can say I have a preasence at evo where we all know that's the mission and even still I'm 100% honest and in the end will tell any sponser to go fuck themselves sideways. I don't preach shit for any one. I answer everty memebers questuons with 100% legitimate advice on all fronts. I'm a stand up individual and I am 110% honest on every action I make.

Not once will you see me preach anything. I recommend based of what works for me personaly and I make that 100% clear. I believe no two individuals are the same. Everyone is unique. Advice should be taken with a grain of salt and if anything its a rough draft for an individual to reshape and make there own.

Before jumping to conclusions you should dig deeper in the sutuation. This almost 2g dose is a very short burst of approximately 2-3 weeks to blast my androgens up as a last push before show time. This is not something I've ran for a long period of time. Prior to this my dose was under a gram. This blast did exactly what I wanted it to do btw. Could not have worked out better.

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Listen man, you are free to whatever you like, whenever you like and that's on you and i would never tell you otherwise, and regardless, my support is always there for you because the last thing i ever want to see is you or anyone else hurt themselves and you damn well better believe, in my heart, I WANT YOU TO SUCCEED AT WHATEVER YOUR DOING AND I WANT YOU TO GO FAR PAST THAT... trust me on that... im not talking shit, im not bashing and im not giving you a hard time... understand where i come from on this...

1. the explanation you just gave was FAR different that your initial post which was just so casual about things etc...
2. i don't give a fuck what mr. olympia trainer etc recommended this, on paper, 2 grams of tren, whether it be only weeks or not, WITH halo as well? bro, if you can honestly tell me that's not insane amounts then i guess i don't know what to say... i won't even waste my time putting up an argument on that if you truly believe that because if you do, no argument is going to sway you and i wouldn't even waste my breath but you poll 10 guys and i bet you 9 to 10 don't even know how to respond.. regardless, if you feel its okay for you, then by all means, im not doubting you knowing your body and i MILLION PERCENT agree with your statement about us all having different body types and reactions etc..
3. As i said before, i already know you have a high amount of intelligence, as i've seen it, so i would assume you understand that i never indicated you recommended this to anyone but you also know how many new guys come along and read threads like this, looking for justification to do something crazy... if perhaps you could at least indicate that you are a veteran user, heavy competitor etc... you did in a way but the delivery just leaves it open to justify someone to do something they have absolutely no business doing... i hope you see where im coming from
4. i appreciate you being here, sharing what your doing etc and i want that as does everyone... i just want to make sure people realize that what your doing is definitely not for them... your contributions as well as individual experiences are MORE than appreciated, so understand that from me as well please...

 

[DylanGemelli]

Let's get back to the question for those who have advice on what I have initially asked. Hopefully you can see I appreciate feedback from every individual. I could easily just say screw forums all together and continue on with the recourses I already have but that's not how I roll. I like to gather opinion not just go off advice sprinkled from random individuals.

I post my question here because I value the additional insight.

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as for your t3/t4 question... i would drop it prior to the show for the best results... i would not continue to run i through etc... you want the final stage of filling out etc. and t3 will work against you, even while running tren... you would still leave a few days of halo to add extra hardening and to fill it out but stay dry in the process...

 

[TX TERROR]

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: T3/T4 Question

bro, in all seriousness... what are you thinking? seriously? 1. i have to think from your previous posts your far smarter than this... 2. you do realize the kind of example that sets for others and just because you want to ruin your life you should let anyone else even have the chance to follow suit... 3. i believe you already know the likely consequences of what your doing and you seem to just not care?

you know you are always free to speak your mind here and that's what the forum is all about but you should take into account all the others that you could be influencing in the wrong way before you post recklessness like this... even 1 gram of tren would be viewed as quite reckless so 2 grams? come on bro, seriously...

Never once have I pushed a single person to follow my path in any way. I've made that perfectly clear. I've also clarified I know the exact ramifications of what I'm doing.

Not one cycle have I just injected my body with a foreign substance to not follow it with proper protection and monitored blood work. My doctor also knows exactly what I am doing to a tee.

Secondly I'm not ot following blind advice from some random person. I'm not using just one coach I'm using 4 and we have been all working together on this for a while. Secondly I am also taking advice and suggestions from two individuals who will be in this year's olympia for men's bodybuilding. Not full coaching but I just happen to see them a few times a week at my gym and we get to talking.

Not once Dylan have I recommended this to anyone. Not once have I steered someone in the wrong direction. I can say I have a preasence at evo where we all know that's the mission and even still I'm 100% honest and in the end will tell any sponser to go fuck themselves sideways. I don't preach shit for any one. I answer everty memebers questuons with 100% legitimate advice on all fronts. I'm a stand up individual and I am 110% honest on every action I make.

Not once will you see me preach anything. I recommend based of what works for me personaly and I make that 100% clear. I believe no two individuals are the same. Everyone is unique. Advice should be taken with a grain of salt and if anything its a rough draft for an individual to reshape and make there own.

Before jumping to conclusions you should dig deeper in the sutuation. This almost 2g dose is a very short burst of approximately 2-3 weeks to blast my androgens up as a last push before show time. This is not something I've ran for a long period of time. Prior to this my dose was under a gram. This blast did exactly what I wanted it to do btw. Could not have worked out better.

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Listen man, you are free to whatever you like, whenever you like and that's on you and i would never tell you otherwise, and regardless, my support is always there for you because the last thing i ever want to see is you or anyone else hurt themselves and you damn well better believe, in my heart, I WANT YOU TO SUCCEED AT WHATEVER YOUR DOING AND I WANT YOU TO GO FAR PAST THAT... trust me on that... im not talking shit, im not bashing and im not giving you a hard time... understand where i come from on this...

1. the explanation you just gave was FAR different that your initial post which was just so casual about things etc...
2. i don't give a fuck what mr. olympia trainer etc recommended this, on paper, 2 grams of tren, whether it be only weeks or not, WITH halo as well? bro, if you can honestly tell me that's not insane amounts then i guess i don't know what to say... i won't even waste my time putting up an argument on that if you truly believe that because if you do, no argument is going to sway you and i wouldn't even waste my breath but you poll 10 guys and i bet you 9 to 10 don't even know how to respond.. regardless, if you feel its okay for you, then by all means, im not doubting you knowing your body and i MILLION PERCENT agree with your statement about us all having different body types and reactions etc..
3. As i said before, i already know you have a high amount of intelligence, as i've seen it, so i would assume you understand that i never indicated you recommended this to anyone but you also know how many new guys come along and read threads like this, looking for justification to do something crazy... if perhaps you could at least indicate that you are a veteran user, heavy competitor etc... you did in a way but the delivery just leaves it open to justify someone to do something they have absolutely no business doing... i hope you see where im coming from
4. i appreciate you being here, sharing what your doing etc and i want that as does everyone... i just want to make sure people realize that what your doing is definitely not for them... your contributions as well as individual experiences are MORE than appreciated, so understand that from me as well please...

I totally get that. I did forget to clairify that. I'm didn't treat the post as if it were directed to a new user nor new member. That I will be more carefull of.

The halo and tren wouldt be ran together at the extreame high doses.
There is a final push like I said of all androgens wich is why my tren is so high. after this last week it tapers back down and the halo won't come in till the tren dose has decreased significatly. the doses are not all that uncommon these days. The reason for the saturation of my receptors is so I can eliminate the worry of having any visible evidence of injections when I'm on the stage. Granted it NPC and they all use steroids but it's never good if the judges blatantly see that.

Saturating my receptors will allow me to get what I need in this last push and also allow me to rely in my orals rather than heavy injection frequency.

I actually took a significantly more conservative approach than what was initially recomended. You would be really really shocked what these guys actually run. It's not like an exclusive group either it's pretty standard. This is why I accept I will never go to the olympia cause I don't want to fucking die.

I know your not bashing I totally see your point. Even if you were bashing, I can easily go about my day. I simply want to clairify cause I see I didnt really make it clear when I vegan. My intent wasnt to really get into my cycling. It was more so about the t3/t4. But again I see exactly where your coming from and completly respect your feedback.

I'm a big advocate on my knowledge is just that MY knowledge for ME. All I can do is tell my story and be honest to those looking for advice. I never want anyone to follow what I do. I want people to take thier own path like I did.

I appreciate the answer too on the t3. This is where I was leaning. Dropping it before the show. Only reason I even wanted to consider using it is cause xeno did me a favor. I've never been inclined to touch the stuff. I hear a lot of mixed views on it.

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[DylanGemelli]

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: T3/T4 Question

bro, in all seriousness... what are you thinking? seriously? 1. i have to think from your previous posts your far smarter than this... 2. you do realize the kind of example that sets for others and just because you want to ruin your life you should let anyone else even have the chance to follow suit... 3. i believe you already know the likely consequences of what your doing and you seem to just not care?

you know you are always free to speak your mind here and that's what the forum is all about but you should take into account all the others that you could be influencing in the wrong way before you post recklessness like this... even 1 gram of tren would be viewed as quite reckless so 2 grams? come on bro, seriously...

Never once have I pushed a single person to follow my path in any way. I've made that perfectly clear. I've also clarified I know the exact ramifications of what I'm doing.

Not one cycle have I just injected my body with a foreign substance to not follow it with proper protection and monitored blood work. My doctor also knows exactly what I am doing to a tee.

Secondly I'm not ot following blind advice from some random person. I'm not using just one coach I'm using 4 and we have been all working together on this for a while. Secondly I am also taking advice and suggestions from two individuals who will be in this year's olympia for men's bodybuilding. Not full coaching but I just happen to see them a few times a week at my gym and we get to talking.

Not once Dylan have I recommended this to anyone. Not once have I steered someone in the wrong direction. I can say I have a preasence at evo where we all know that's the mission and even still I'm 100% honest and in the end will tell any sponser to go fuck themselves sideways. I don't preach shit for any one. I answer everty memebers questuons with 100% legitimate advice on all fronts. I'm a stand up individual and I am 110% honest on every action I make.

Not once will you see me preach anything. I recommend based of what works for me personaly and I make that 100% clear. I believe no two individuals are the same. Everyone is unique. Advice should be taken with a grain of salt and if anything its a rough draft for an individual to reshape and make there own.

Before jumping to conclusions you should dig deeper in the sutuation. This almost 2g dose is a very short burst of approximately 2-3 weeks to blast my androgens up as a last push before show time. This is not something I've ran for a long period of time. Prior to this my dose was under a gram. This blast did exactly what I wanted it to do btw. Could not have worked out better.

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Listen man, you are free to whatever you like, whenever you like and that's on you and i would never tell you otherwise, and regardless, my support is always there for you because the last thing i ever want to see is you or anyone else hurt themselves and you damn well better believe, in my heart, I WANT YOU TO SUCCEED AT WHATEVER YOUR DOING AND I WANT YOU TO GO FAR PAST THAT... trust me on that... im not talking shit, im not bashing and im not giving you a hard time... understand where i come from on this...

1. the explanation you just gave was FAR different that your initial post which was just so casual about things etc...
2. i don't give a fuck what mr. olympia trainer etc recommended this, on paper, 2 grams of tren, whether it be only weeks or not, WITH halo as well? bro, if you can honestly tell me that's not insane amounts then i guess i don't know what to say... i won't even waste my time putting up an argument on that if you truly believe that because if you do, no argument is going to sway you and i wouldn't even waste my breath but you poll 10 guys and i bet you 9 to 10 don't even know how to respond.. regardless, if you feel its okay for you, then by all means, im not doubting you knowing your body and i MILLION PERCENT agree with your statement about us all having different body types and reactions etc..
3. As i said before, i already know you have a high amount of intelligence, as i've seen it, so i would assume you understand that i never indicated you recommended this to anyone but you also know how many new guys come along and read threads like this, looking for justification to do something crazy... if perhaps you could at least indicate that you are a veteran user, heavy competitor etc... you did in a way but the delivery just leaves it open to justify someone to do something they have absolutely no business doing... i hope you see where im coming from
4. i appreciate you being here, sharing what your doing etc and i want that as does everyone... i just want to make sure people realize that what your doing is definitely not for them... your contributions as well as individual experiences are MORE than appreciated, so understand that from me as well please...

I totally get that. I did forget to clairify that. I'm didn't treat the post as if it were directed to a new user nor new member. That I will be more carefull of.

The halo and tren wouldt be ran together at the extreame high doses.
There is a final push like I said of all androgens wich is why my tren is so high. after this last week it tapers back down and the halo won't come in till the tren dose has decreased significatly. the doses are not all that uncommon these days. The reason for the saturation of my receptors is so I can eliminate the worry of having any visible evidence of injections when I'm on the stage. Granted it NPC and they all use steroids but it's never good if the judges blatantly see that.

Saturating my receptors will allow me to get what I need in this last push and also allow me to rely in my orals rather than heavy injection frequency.

I actually took a significantly more conservative approach than what was initially recomended. You would be really really shocked what these guys actually run. It's not like an exclusive group either it's pretty standard. This is why I accept I will never go to the olympia cause I don't want to fucking die.

I know your not bashing I totally see your point. Even if you were bashing, I can easily go about my day. I simply want to clairify cause I see I didnt really make it clear when I vegan. My intent wasnt to really get into my cycling. It was more so about the t3/t4. But again I see exactly where your coming from and completly respect your feedback.

I'm a big advocate on my knowledge is just that MY knowledge for ME. All I can do is tell my story and be honest to those looking for advice. I never want anyone to follow what I do. I want people to take thier own path like I did.

I appreciate the answer too on the t3. This is where I was leaning. Dropping it before the show. Only reason I even wanted to consider using it is cause xeno did me a favor. I've never been inclined to touch the stuff. I hear a lot of mixed views on it.

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Its all good my friend... sometimes things just need to be cleared up and i do that as well as get over things in a snap of a finger... we are men, not kids and men may disagree but when we have FAR more to agree on, you just each bring what you have to the table, draw a conclusion together, both learn from it and move forward...

that being said... here's my take on the t3/t4 addition... xeno was extremely kind to provide this to you and im sure coming from him that its top quality... that can't change my take on it though... i definitely don't like it here... not at all and i'll tell you why... messing with the thyroid alone is just something i don't do nor recommend... can you do it safely... possibly but there's a lot of room for error or negative response... i really don't like how it can eat away muscle as well... yes, tren and halo together will slow that down considerably but the fact still remains it will still eat some... there are better ways to lose fat in prep without going through that or affecting your muscle wasting etc... I still think you will be fine and do well in your contest but, as im sure you know, there are far better options in the future... im still eager to see your results though and still feel you will have excellent results throughout... now if hgh were involved then i totally get the t4 use and would probably be recommending it, just for the future if you run it but im not sure if that is on the menu for you or not... MAKE SURE to keep us updated on your contest results and how you are progressing leading up to it because i know there will be a lot of fascinated minds, mine included, seeing how this set up treats you bro... you know i wish you nothing but the best and if you need me for any help on any of this, im just a pm away

 

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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: T3/T4 Question

bro, in all seriousness... what are you thinking? seriously? 1. i have to think from your previous posts your far smarter than this... 2. you do realize the kind of example that sets for others and just because you want to ruin your life you should let anyone else even have the chance to follow suit... 3. i believe you already know the likely consequences of what your doing and you seem to just not care?

you know you are always free to speak your mind here and that's what the forum is all about but you should take into account all the others that you could be influencing in the wrong way before you post recklessness like this... even 1 gram of tren would be viewed as quite reckless so 2 grams? come on bro, seriously...

Never once have I pushed a single person to follow my path in any way. I've made that perfectly clear. I've also clarified I know the exact ramifications of what I'm doing.

Not one cycle have I just injected my body with a foreign substance to not follow it with proper protection and monitored blood work. My doctor also knows exactly what I am doing to a tee.

Secondly I'm not ot following blind advice from some random person. I'm not using just one coach I'm using 4 and we have been all working together on this for a while. Secondly I am also taking advice and suggestions from two individuals who will be in this year's olympia for men's bodybuilding. Not full coaching but I just happen to see them a few times a week at my gym and we get to talking.

Not once Dylan have I recommended this to anyone. Not once have I steered someone in the wrong direction. I can say I have a preasence at evo where we all know that's the mission and even still I'm 100% honest and in the end will tell any sponser to go fuck themselves sideways. I don't preach shit for any one. I answer everty memebers questuons with 100% legitimate advice on all fronts. I'm a stand up individual and I am 110% honest on every action I make.

Not once will you see me preach anything. I recommend based of what works for me personaly and I make that 100% clear. I believe no two individuals are the same. Everyone is unique. Advice should be taken with a grain of salt and if anything its a rough draft for an individual to reshape and make there own.

Before jumping to conclusions you should dig deeper in the sutuation. This almost 2g dose is a very short burst of approximately 2-3 weeks to blast my androgens up as a last push before show time. This is not something I've ran for a long period of time. Prior to this my dose was under a gram. This blast did exactly what I wanted it to do btw. Could not have worked out better.

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Listen man, you are free to whatever you like, whenever you like and that's on you and i would never tell you otherwise, and regardless, my support is always there for you because the last thing i ever want to see is you or anyone else hurt themselves and you damn well better believe, in my heart, I WANT YOU TO SUCCEED AT WHATEVER YOUR DOING AND I WANT YOU TO GO FAR PAST THAT... trust me on that... im not talking shit, im not bashing and im not giving you a hard time... understand where i come from on this...

1. the explanation you just gave was FAR different that your initial post which was just so casual about things etc...
2. i don't give a fuck what mr. olympia trainer etc recommended this, on paper, 2 grams of tren, whether it be only weeks or not, WITH halo as well? bro, if you can honestly tell me that's not insane amounts then i guess i don't know what to say... i won't even waste my time putting up an argument on that if you truly believe that because if you do, no argument is going to sway you and i wouldn't even waste my breath but you poll 10 guys and i bet you 9 to 10 don't even know how to respond.. regardless, if you feel its okay for you, then by all means, im not doubting you knowing your body and i MILLION PERCENT agree with your statement about us all having different body types and reactions etc..
3. As i said before, i already know you have a high amount of intelligence, as i've seen it, so i would assume you understand that i never indicated you recommended this to anyone but you also know how many new guys come along and read threads like this, looking for justification to do something crazy... if perhaps you could at least indicate that you are a veteran user, heavy competitor etc... you did in a way but the delivery just leaves it open to justify someone to do something they have absolutely no business doing... i hope you see where im coming from
4. i appreciate you being here, sharing what your doing etc and i want that as does everyone... i just want to make sure people realize that what your doing is definitely not for them... your contributions as well as individual experiences are MORE than appreciated, so understand that from me as well please...

I totally get that. I did forget to clairify that. I'm didn't treat the post as if it were directed to a new user nor new member. That I will be more carefull of.

The halo and tren wouldt be ran together at the extreame high doses.
There is a final push like I said of all androgens wich is why my tren is so high. after this last week it tapers back down and the halo won't come in till the tren dose has decreased significatly. the doses are not all that uncommon these days. The reason for the saturation of my receptors is so I can eliminate the worry of having any visible evidence of injections when I'm on the stage. Granted it NPC and they all use steroids but it's never good if the judges blatantly see that.

Saturating my receptors will allow me to get what I need in this last push and also allow me to rely in my orals rather than heavy injection frequency.

I actually took a significantly more conservative approach than what was initially recomended. You would be really really shocked what these guys actually run. It's not like an exclusive group either it's pretty standard. This is why I accept I will never go to the olympia cause I don't want to fucking die.

I know your not bashing I totally see your point. Even if you were bashing, I can easily go about my day. I simply want to clairify cause I see I didnt really make it clear when I vegan. My intent wasnt to really get into my cycling. It was more so about the t3/t4. But again I see exactly where your coming from and completly respect your feedback.

I'm a big advocate on my knowledge is just that MY knowledge for ME. All I can do is tell my story and be honest to those looking for advice. I never want anyone to follow what I do. I want people to take thier own path like I did.

I appreciate the answer too on the t3. This is where I was leaning. Dropping it before the show. Only reason I even wanted to consider using it is cause xeno did me a favor. I've never been inclined to touch the stuff. I hear a lot of mixed views on it.

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Its all good my friend... sometimes things just need to be cleared up and i do that as well as get over things in a snap of a finger... we are men, not kids and men may disagree but when we have FAR more to agree on, you just each bring what you have to the table, draw a conclusion together, both learn from it and move forward...

that being said... here's my take on the t3/t4 addition... xeno was extremely kind to provide this to you and im sure coming from him that its top quality... that can't change my take on it though... i definitely don't like it here... not at all and i'll tell you why... messing with the thyroid alone is just something i don't do nor recommend... can you do it safely... possibly but there's a lot of room for error or negative response... i really don't like how it can eat away muscle as well... yes, tren and halo together will slow that down considerably but the fact still remains it will still eat some... there are better ways to lose fat in prep without going through that or affecting your muscle wasting etc... I still think you will be fine and do well in your contest but, as im sure you know, there are far better options in the future... im still eager to see your results though and still feel you will have excellent results throughout... now if hgh were involved then i totally get the t4 use and would probably be recommending it, just for the future if you run it but im not sure if that is on the menu for you or not... MAKE SURE to keep us updated on your contest results and how you are progressing leading up to it because i know there will be a lot of fascinated minds, mine included, seeing how this set up treats you bro... you know i wish you nothing but the best and if you need me for any help on any of this, im just a pm away

Sounds good brotha. Ya Il keep everyone updated the best I can. I respect that answer and this k I will hold off on using it. I've never had diet issues or found anything I can't manage. Just figured since it's there I would give it a shot.

I have hgh purchases for the next prep. I may save it for when that can fall into place along side it.

That solves it. Holding off on t3/t4. Things have been going extreamly well with my current sturcture. No reason to chance it.

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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: T3/T4 Question

bro, in all seriousness... what are you thinking? seriously? 1. i have to think from your previous posts your far smarter than this... 2. you do realize the kind of example that sets for others and just because you want to ruin your life you should let anyone else even have the chance to follow suit... 3. i believe you already know the likely consequences of what your doing and you seem to just not care?

you know you are always free to speak your mind here and that's what the forum is all about but you should take into account all the others that you could be influencing in the wrong way before you post recklessness like this... even 1 gram of tren would be viewed as quite reckless so 2 grams? come on bro, seriously...

Never once have I pushed a single person to follow my path in any way. I've made that perfectly clear. I've also clarified I know the exact ramifications of what I'm doing.

Not one cycle have I just injected my body with a foreign substance to not follow it with proper protection and monitored blood work. My doctor also knows exactly what I am doing to a tee.

Secondly I'm not ot following blind advice from some random person. I'm not using just one coach I'm using 4 and we have been all working together on this for a while. Secondly I am also taking advice and suggestions from two individuals who will be in this year's olympia for men's bodybuilding. Not full coaching but I just happen to see them a few times a week at my gym and we get to talking.

Not once Dylan have I recommended this to anyone. Not once have I steered someone in the wrong direction. I can say I have a preasence at evo where we all know that's the mission and even still I'm 100% honest and in the end will tell any sponser to go fuck themselves sideways. I don't preach shit for any one. I answer everty memebers questuons with 100% legitimate advice on all fronts. I'm a stand up individual and I am 110% honest on every action I make.

Not once will you see me preach anything. I recommend based of what works for me personaly and I make that 100% clear. I believe no two individuals are the same. Everyone is unique. Advice should be taken with a grain of salt and if anything its a rough draft for an individual to reshape and make there own.

Before jumping to conclusions you should dig deeper in the sutuation. This almost 2g dose is a very short burst of approximately 2-3 weeks to blast my androgens up as a last push before show time. This is not something I've ran for a long period of time. Prior to this my dose was under a gram. This blast did exactly what I wanted it to do btw. Could not have worked out better.

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Listen man, you are free to whatever you like, whenever you like and that's on you and i would never tell you otherwise, and regardless, my support is always there for you because the last thing i ever want to see is you or anyone else hurt themselves and you damn well better believe, in my heart, I WANT YOU TO SUCCEED AT WHATEVER YOUR DOING AND I WANT YOU TO GO FAR PAST THAT... trust me on that... im not talking shit, im not bashing and im not giving you a hard time... understand where i come from on this...

1. the explanation you just gave was FAR different that your initial post which was just so casual about things etc...
2. i don't give a fuck what mr. olympia trainer etc recommended this, on paper, 2 grams of tren, whether it be only weeks or not, WITH halo as well? bro, if you can honestly tell me that's not insane amounts then i guess i don't know what to say... i won't even waste my time putting up an argument on that if you truly believe that because if you do, no argument is going to sway you and i wouldn't even waste my breath but you poll 10 guys and i bet you 9 to 10 don't even know how to respond.. regardless, if you feel its okay for you, then by all means, im not doubting you knowing your body and i MILLION PERCENT agree with your statement about us all having different body types and reactions etc..
3. As i said before, i already know you have a high amount of intelligence, as i've seen it, so i would assume you understand that i never indicated you recommended this to anyone but you also know how many new guys come along and read threads like this, looking for justification to do something crazy... if perhaps you could at least indicate that you are a veteran user, heavy competitor etc... you did in a way but the delivery just leaves it open to justify someone to do something they have absolutely no business doing... i hope you see where im coming from
4. i appreciate you being here, sharing what your doing etc and i want that as does everyone... i just want to make sure people realize that what your doing is definitely not for them... your contributions as well as individual experiences are MORE than appreciated, so understand that from me as well please...

I totally get that. I did forget to clairify that. I'm didn't treat the post as if it were directed to a new user nor new member. That I will be more carefull of.

The halo and tren wouldt be ran together at the extreame high doses.
There is a final push like I said of all androgens wich is why my tren is so high. after this last week it tapers back down and the halo won't come in till the tren dose has decreased significatly. the doses are not all that uncommon these days. The reason for the saturation of my receptors is so I can eliminate the worry of having any visible evidence of injections when I'm on the stage. Granted it NPC and they all use steroids but it's never good if the judges blatantly see that.

Saturating my receptors will allow me to get what I need in this last push and also allow me to rely in my orals rather than heavy injection frequency.

I actually took a significantly more conservative approach than what was initially recomended. You would be really really shocked what these guys actually run. It's not like an exclusive group either it's pretty standard. This is why I accept I will never go to the olympia cause I don't want to fucking die.

I know your not bashing I totally see your point. Even if you were bashing, I can easily go about my day. I simply want to clairify cause I see I didnt really make it clear when I vegan. My intent wasnt to really get into my cycling. It was more so about the t3/t4. But again I see exactly where your coming from and completly respect your feedback.

I'm a big advocate on my knowledge is just that MY knowledge for ME. All I can do is tell my story and be honest to those looking for advice. I never want anyone to follow what I do. I want people to take thier own path like I did.

I appreciate the answer too on the t3. This is where I was leaning. Dropping it before the show. Only reason I even wanted to consider using it is cause xeno did me a favor. I've never been inclined to touch the stuff. I hear a lot of mixed views on it.

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Its all good my friend... sometimes things just need to be cleared up and i do that as well as get over things in a snap of a finger... we are men, not kids and men may disagree but when we have FAR more to agree on, you just each bring what you have to the table, draw a conclusion together, both learn from it and move forward...

that being said... here's my take on the t3/t4 addition... xeno was extremely kind to provide this to you and im sure coming from him that its top quality... that can't change my take on it though... i definitely don't like it here... not at all and i'll tell you why... messing with the thyroid alone is just something i don't do nor recommend... can you do it safely... possibly but there's a lot of room for error or negative response... i really don't like how it can eat away muscle as well... yes, tren and halo together will slow that down considerably but the fact still remains it will still eat some... there are better ways to lose fat in prep without going through that or affecting your muscle wasting etc... I still think you will be fine and do well in your contest but, as im sure you know, there are far better options in the future... im still eager to see your results though and still feel you will have excellent results throughout... now if hgh were involved then i totally get the t4 use and would probably be recommending it, just for the future if you run it but im not sure if that is on the menu for you or not... MAKE SURE to keep us updated on your contest results and how you are progressing leading up to it because i know there will be a lot of fascinated minds, mine included, seeing how this set up treats you bro... you know i wish you nothing but the best and if you need me for any help on any of this, im just a pm away

Sounds good brotha. Ya Il keep everyone updated the best I can. I respect that answer and this k I will hold off on using it. I've never had diet issues or found anything I can't manage. Just figured since it's there I would give it a shot.

I have hgh purchases for the next prep. I may save it for when that can fall into place along side it.

That solves it. Holding off on t3/t4. Things have been going extreamly well with my current sturcture. No reason to chance it.

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honestly bro, thats the best approach.. SAVE the t4 for hgh as that's where you truly need it... from the sounds of it, you've busted your ass way too far to throw in anything to chance... if you really want to melt fat and add lean muscle, you don't need much more.. i always like mast and proviron in here and gw-501516 will melt fat but spare muscle and its PERFECT to use with tren... otherwise, i dont see you needing to change anything right now honestly... you have halo for hardening like a fucking ice sculpture, tren for everything etc... so it won't take much more... i just see the t3 being more detrimental than helpful in this circumstance...