Switch things up to keep the Body from adapting ?

[jaharris1701]

hey gang,, question,, I'm 57 yrs old, been lifting many many years, did juice for probably 3 years and came off, recently started back up again with 250 mg Sustanon every 5 days, jump started with Dbol ( left over ) till I ran out ,, about 2 weeks then switched to Anadrol for about another 4 weeks, didnt like the bloat and water gain so stopped, started mixing in a blend of Deca 200mg and test enanthate 250mg along with sustanon 250mg, got good results for first couple weeks but soon seems as though the body adapts, I figure I will continue to use the sustanon and blend till gone then try a different blend, maybe test/tren to firm up and cut, afterwards do a "cruise" cycle of just test/tren maybe 150/150mg
I am doing cycle support along side
your thoughts?
I've heard it's a good idea to mix things up and keep the body "off guard"

 

[cmb5017]

hey gang,, question,, I'm 57 yrs old, been lifting many many years, did juice for probably 3 years and came off, recently started back up again with 250 mg Sustanon every 5 days, jump started with Dbol ( left over ) till I ran out ,, about 2 weeks then switched to Anadrol for about another 4 weeks, didnt like the bloat and water gain so stopped, started mixing in a blend of Deca 200mg and test enanthate 250mg along with sustanon 250mg, got good results for first couple weeks but soon seems as though the body adapts, I figure I will continue to use the sustanon and blend till gone then try a different blend, maybe test/tren to firm up and cut, afterwards do a "cruise" cycle of just test/tren maybe 150/150mg
I am doing cycle support along side
your thoughts?
I've heard it's a good idea to mix things up and keep the body "off guard"

U taking an AI?

 

[jaharris1701]

hey gang,, question,, I'm 57 yrs old, been lifting many many years, did juice for probably 3 years and came off, recently started back up again with 250 mg Sustanon every 5 days, jump started with Dbol ( left over ) till I ran out ,, about 2 weeks then switched to Anadrol for about another 4 weeks, didnt like the bloat and water gain so stopped, started mixing in a blend of Deca 200mg and test enanthate 250mg along with sustanon 250mg, got good results for first couple weeks but soon seems as though the body adapts, I figure I will continue to use the sustanon and blend till gone then try a different blend, maybe test/tren to firm up and cut, afterwards do a "cruise" cycle of just test/tren maybe 150/150mg
I am doing cycle support along side
your thoughts?
I've heard it's a good idea to mix things up and keep the body "off guard"

U taking an AI?

not at this time,, never had any issue with any signs of gyno,, been considering running Arimidex as a preventative measure after being a member here and becoming more educated

 

[jaharris1701]

hey gang,, question,, I'm 57 yrs old, been lifting many many years, did juice for probably 3 years and came off, recently started back up again with 250 mg Sustanon every 5 days, jump started with Dbol ( left over ) till I ran out ,, about 2 weeks then switched to Anadrol for about another 4 weeks, didnt like the bloat and water gain so stopped, started mixing in a blend of Deca 200mg and test enanthate 250mg along with sustanon 250mg, got good results for first couple weeks but soon seems as though the body adapts, I figure I will continue to use the sustanon and blend till gone then try a different blend, maybe test/tren to firm up and cut, afterwards do a "cruise" cycle of just test/tren maybe 150/150mg
I am doing cycle support along side
your thoughts?
I've heard it's a good idea to mix things up and keep the body "off guard"

U taking an AI?

not at this time, I've never had any sign or issues with gyno, considering running Arimidex as a precaution though after being a member here and becoming more educated

 

[RickRock]

hey gang,, question,, I'm 57 yrs old, been lifting many many years, did juice for probably 3 years and came off, recently started back up again with 250 mg Sustanon every 5 days, jump started with Dbol ( left over ) till I ran out ,, about 2 weeks then switched to Anadrol for about another 4 weeks, didnt like the bloat and water gain so stopped, started mixing in a blend of Deca 200mg and test enanthate 250mg along with sustanon 250mg, got good results for first couple weeks but soon seems as though the body adapts, I figure I will continue to use the sustanon and blend till gone then try a different blend, maybe test/tren to firm up and cut, afterwards do a "cruise" cycle of just test/tren maybe 150/150mg
I am doing cycle support along side
your thoughts?
I've heard it's a good idea to mix things up and keep the body "off guard"

I don't see the point in switching up compounds that often like that. I've heard about the theory to "keep the body guessing" but there's just no evidence to back up that there is any benefit to doing that. You also skip out on getting the most benefit of a compound by ending it too early that easy. In the end, it doesn't matter what compounds you use when. Myostatin eventually wins and takes over and gains will stall out....usually around the 8 week mark no matter what you do. It makes more sense to pick the right compounds at the right doses and run them for the right length cycle. The exception to the rule, would be to drop some wetter compounds towards the end of a cycle and add in some hardeners like Masteron, winstrol, and sarms S4 to get lean, hard, and vascular to clean up gains towards the end. Other than that, I would stick to compounds you choose for the goals and run them properly

 

[cmb5017]

Your running alot of aromatizing compounds. So I know ur having estrogen spikes. A possible culprit to why u hit a plateau . Also switch ur workout routine to keep ur muscles guessing.

 

[jaharris1701]

Your running alot of aromatizing compounds. So I know ur having estrogen spikes. A possible culprit to why u hit a plateau . Also switch ur workout routine to keep ur muscles guessing.

so you think an AI would help with the plateau? as far as changing up the workout, I do that every time I work out, no two workouts are the same Im not really "plateauing" I still make gains, but it makes sense to me to switch things up and "keep the body off guard" I also was watching " Rich Piana" on Youtube and he also suggests doing that, the body gets used to certain stimulants and change is a good thing

 

[jaharris1701]

hey gang,, question,, I'm 57 yrs old, been lifting many many years, did juice for probably 3 years and came off, recently started back up again with 250 mg Sustanon every 5 days, jump started with Dbol ( left over ) till I ran out ,, about 2 weeks then switched to Anadrol for about another 4 weeks, didnt like the bloat and water gain so stopped, started mixing in a blend of Deca 200mg and test enanthate 250mg along with sustanon 250mg, got good results for first couple weeks but soon seems as though the body adapts, I figure I will continue to use the sustanon and blend till gone then try a different blend, maybe test/tren to firm up and cut, afterwards do a "cruise" cycle of just test/tren maybe 150/150mg
I am doing cycle support along side
your thoughts?
I've heard it's a good idea to mix things up and keep the body "off guard"

I don't see the point in switching up compounds that often like that. I've heard about the theory to "keep the body guessing" but there's just no evidence to back up that there is any benefit to doing that. You also skip out on getting the most benefit of a compound by ending it too early that easy. In the end, it doesn't matter what compounds you use when. Myostatin eventually wins and takes over and gains will stall out....usually around the 8 week mark no matter what you do. It makes more sense to pick the right compounds at the right doses and run them for the right length cycle. The exception to the rule, would be to drop some wetter compounds towards the end of a cycle and add in some hardeners like Masteron, winstrol, and sarms S4 to get lean, hard, and vascular to clean up gains towards the end. Other than that, I would stick to compounds you choose for the goals and run them properly

Thanks Rick, I appreciate your input,, I was thinking of running some Winstrol but being that it's an "Oral" I was contemplating an alternative, never tried Winstrol, havent tried Sarms either, S4 sounds interesting to me, it reminds me of some of the older "supplements" that were available many many years ago and those supplements never seemed to work :lol: I'm sure though that this is something altogether different,, as stated I do intend to run the rest of what I have, maybe try s4 or winny before going on a cruise

 

[RickRock]

hey gang,, question,, I'm 57 yrs old, been lifting many many years, did juice for probably 3 years and came off, recently started back up again with 250 mg Sustanon every 5 days, jump started with Dbol ( left over ) till I ran out ,, about 2 weeks then switched to Anadrol for about another 4 weeks, didnt like the bloat and water gain so stopped, started mixing in a blend of Deca 200mg and test enanthate 250mg along with sustanon 250mg, got good results for first couple weeks but soon seems as though the body adapts, I figure I will continue to use the sustanon and blend till gone then try a different blend, maybe test/tren to firm up and cut, afterwards do a "cruise" cycle of just test/tren maybe 150/150mg
I am doing cycle support along side
your thoughts?
I've heard it's a good idea to mix things up and keep the body "off guard"

I don't see the point in switching up compounds that often like that. I've heard about the theory to "keep the body guessing" but there's just no evidence to back up that there is any benefit to doing that. You also skip out on getting the most benefit of a compound by ending it too early that easy. In the end, it doesn't matter what compounds you use when. Myostatin eventually wins and takes over and gains will stall out....usually around the 8 week mark no matter what you do. It makes more sense to pick the right compounds at the right doses and run them for the right length cycle. The exception to the rule, would be to drop some wetter compounds towards the end of a cycle and add in some hardeners like Masteron, winstrol, and sarms S4 to get lean, hard, and vascular to clean up gains towards the end. Other than that, I would stick to compounds you choose for the goals and run them properly

Thanks Rick, I appreciate your input,, I was thinking of running some Winstrol but being that it's an "Oral" I was contemplating an alternative, never tried Winstrol, havent tried Sarms either, S4 sounds interesting to me, it reminds me of some of the older "supplements" that were available many many years ago and those supplements never seemed to work :lol: I'm sure though that this is something altogether different,, as stated I do intend to run the rest of what I have, maybe try s4 or winny before going on a cruise

S4 and Winstrol both make great finishers to a cycle. The S4 is especially a big benefit because it isn't toxic like Winstrol, and not nearly as hard on the body. It works, and definitely works well to harden up, gain strength, and vascularity.

 

[jaharris1701]

hey gang,, question,, I'm 57 yrs old, been lifting many many years, did juice for probably 3 years and came off, recently started back up again with 250 mg Sustanon every 5 days, jump started with Dbol ( left over ) till I ran out ,, about 2 weeks then switched to Anadrol for about another 4 weeks, didnt like the bloat and water gain so stopped, started mixing in a blend of Deca 200mg and test enanthate 250mg along with sustanon 250mg, got good results for first couple weeks but soon seems as though the body adapts, I figure I will continue to use the sustanon and blend till gone then try a different blend, maybe test/tren to firm up and cut, afterwards do a "cruise" cycle of just test/tren maybe 150/150mg
I am doing cycle support along side
your thoughts?
I've heard it's a good idea to mix things up and keep the body "off guard"

I don't see the point in switching up compounds that often like that. I've heard about the theory to "keep the body guessing" but there's just no evidence to back up that there is any benefit to doing that. You also skip out on getting the most benefit of a compound by ending it too early that easy. In the end, it doesn't matter what compounds you use when. Myostatin eventually wins and takes over and gains will stall out....usually around the 8 week mark no matter what you do. It makes more sense to pick the right compounds at the right doses and run them for the right length cycle. The exception to the rule, would be to drop some wetter compounds towards the end of a cycle and add in some hardeners like Masteron, winstrol, and sarms S4 to get lean, hard, and vascular to clean up gains towards the end. Other than that, I would stick to compounds you choose for the goals and run them properly

Thanks Rick, I appreciate your input,, I was thinking of running some Winstrol but being that it's an "Oral" I was contemplating an alternative, never tried Winstrol, havent tried Sarms either, S4 sounds interesting to me, it reminds me of some of the older "supplements" that were available many many years ago and those supplements never seemed to work :lol: I'm sure though that this is something altogether different,, as stated I do intend to run the rest of what I have, maybe try s4 or winny before going on a cruise

S4 and Winstrol both make great finishers to a cycle. The S4 is especially a big benefit because it isn't toxic like Winstrol, and not nearly as hard on the body. It works, and definitely works well to harden up, gain strength, and vascularity.

thanks again for the input, how long does a bottle of s4 last ? dosage ? do I order from Pure essence ?

 

[cmb5017]

I definitely would run aromasin at 12.5 EOD

 

[RickRock]

hey gang,, question,, I'm 57 yrs old, been lifting many many years, did juice for probably 3 years and came off, recently started back up again with 250 mg Sustanon every 5 days, jump started with Dbol ( left over ) till I ran out ,, about 2 weeks then switched to Anadrol for about another 4 weeks, didnt like the bloat and water gain so stopped, started mixing in a blend of Deca 200mg and test enanthate 250mg along with sustanon 250mg, got good results for first couple weeks but soon seems as though the body adapts, I figure I will continue to use the sustanon and blend till gone then try a different blend, maybe test/tren to firm up and cut, afterwards do a "cruise" cycle of just test/tren maybe 150/150mg
I am doing cycle support along side
your thoughts?
I've heard it's a good idea to mix things up and keep the body "off guard"

I don't see the point in switching up compounds that often like that. I've heard about the theory to "keep the body guessing" but there's just no evidence to back up that there is any benefit to doing that. You also skip out on getting the most benefit of a compound by ending it too early that easy. In the end, it doesn't matter what compounds you use when. Myostatin eventually wins and takes over and gains will stall out....usually around the 8 week mark no matter what you do. It makes more sense to pick the right compounds at the right doses and run them for the right length cycle. The exception to the rule, would be to drop some wetter compounds towards the end of a cycle and add in some hardeners like Masteron, winstrol, and sarms S4 to get lean, hard, and vascular to clean up gains towards the end. Other than that, I would stick to compounds you choose for the goals and run them properly

Thanks Rick, I appreciate your input,, I was thinking of running some Winstrol but being that it's an "Oral" I was contemplating an alternative, never tried Winstrol, havent tried Sarms either, S4 sounds interesting to me, it reminds me of some of the older "supplements" that were available many many years ago and those supplements never seemed to work :lol: I'm sure though that this is something altogether different,, as stated I do intend to run the rest of what I have, maybe try s4 or winny before going on a cruise

S4 and Winstrol both make great finishers to a cycle. The S4 is especially a big benefit because it isn't toxic like Winstrol, and not nearly as hard on the body. It works, and definitely works well to harden up, gain strength, and vascularity.

thanks again for the input, how long does a bottle of s4 last ? dosage ? do I order from Pure essence ?

Yes, pure essence is exactly where you want to go for all of your sarms needs. They have the best quality you'll find anywhere. Normal dose of S4 is 50mg per day, and a bottle will last you a month at that dose

http://www.pureessencesarms.com

 

[cbbram00]

I saw a video of Rich Piana talking about the exact same thing. I personally wouldn't think switching long esters that quick would have any benefit. But on the other hand that guy is probably running so much gear and hgh probably wouldn't matter...

 

[jaharris1701]

I saw a video of Rich Piana talking about the exact same thing. I personally wouldn't think switching long esters that quick would have any benefit. But on the other hand that guy is probably running so much gear and hgh probably wouldn't matter...

I'm sure that dude runs a huge amount of gear, he even has a toxic symbol tattooed on the base of his neck :lol: dude has been running serious gear for many years, he's gonna have issues someday for sure

 

[RickRock]

I saw a video of Rich Piana talking about the exact same thing. I personally wouldn't think switching long esters that quick would have any benefit. But on the other hand that guy is probably running so much gear and hgh probably wouldn't matter...

Yes that's the thing. I seen his video a long time ago on switching compounds, and I'm just not buying it. He has so many fucking androgens in his body, it's damn near impossible to tell what the hell is doing what and he is going to gain regardless because of all this shit he is taking. So I don't think it's right for him to claim that switching compounds is a big contributor to success

 

[jaharris1701]

I saw a video of Rich Piana talking about the exact same thing. I personally wouldn't think switching long esters that quick would have any benefit. But on the other hand that guy is probably running so much gear and hgh probably wouldn't matter...

Yes that's the thing. I seen his video a long time ago on switching compounds, and I'm just not buying it. He has so many fucking androgens in his body, it's damn near impossible to tell what the hell is doing what and he is going to gain regardless because of all this shit he is taking. So I don't think it's right for him to claim that switching compounds is a big contributor to success

another guy is Boston Loyd, he has a HUGE list of ingredients he takes, he breaks down his list on Youtube as well, adding this , subtracting that, again he's taking SO much gear it would be hard to tell what is doing what and the sad part about that is there are SO many youngsters out there looking to Boston for advice and following his advice

 

[RickRock]

I saw a video of Rich Piana talking about the exact same thing. I personally wouldn't think switching long esters that quick would have any benefit. But on the other hand that guy is probably running so much gear and hgh probably wouldn't matter...

Yes that's the thing. I seen his video a long time ago on switching compounds, and I'm just not buying it. He has so many fucking androgens in his body, it's damn near impossible to tell what the hell is doing what and he is going to gain regardless because of all this shit he is taking. So I don't think it's right for him to claim that switching compounds is a big contributor to success

another guy is Boston Loyd, he has a HUGE list of ingredients he takes, he breaks down his list on Youtube as well, adding this , subtracting that, again he's taking SO much gear it would be hard to tell what is doing what and the sad part about that is there are SO many youngsters out there looking to Boston for advice and following his advice

Oh, I agree completely brother. It's very sad that we have a lot of the younger crowd looking up to guys like Bostin that are abusing anything and everything he can get his hands on. This more is better mentality is ruining this newer generation and giving us all a bad name, and it's a very big risk to their personal Health they are taking in the process

 

[SpikedEggnog]

I saw a video of Rich Piana talking about the exact same thing. I personally wouldn't think switching long esters that quick would have any benefit. But on the other hand that guy is probably running so much gear and hgh probably wouldn't matter...

Yes that's the thing. I seen his video a long time ago on switching compounds, and I'm just not buying it. He has so many fucking androgens in his body, it's damn near impossible to tell what the hell is doing what and he is going to gain regardless because of all this shit he is taking. So I don't think it's right for him to claim that switching compounds is a big contributor to success

another guy is Boston Loyd, he has a HUGE list of ingredients he takes, he breaks down his list on Youtube as well, adding this , subtracting that, again he's taking SO much gear it would be hard to tell what is doing what and the sad part about that is there are SO many youngsters out there looking to Boston for advice and following his advice

dude, the saddest part is i will look better then Bostin on 10mg dbol.

 

[jaharris1701]

I saw a video of Rich Piana talking about the exact same thing. I personally wouldn't think switching long esters that quick would have any benefit. But on the other hand that guy is probably running so much gear and hgh probably wouldn't matter...

Yes that's the thing. I seen his video a long time ago on switching compounds, and I'm just not buying it. He has so many fucking androgens in his body, it's damn near impossible to tell what the hell is doing what and he is going to gain regardless because of all this shit he is taking. So I don't think it's right for him to claim that switching compounds is a big contributor to success

another guy is Boston Loyd, he has a HUGE list of ingredients he takes, he breaks down his list on Youtube as well, adding this , subtracting that, again he's taking SO much gear it would be hard to tell what is doing what and the sad part about that is there are SO many youngsters out there looking to Boston for advice and following his advice

dude, the saddest part is i will look better then Bostin on 10mg dbol.

genetics :lol: Lee Priest and Boston been going back and forth on Youtube, Boston has balls calling Priest out, Priest looked great in his prime and certainly didnt use anywhere near the amounts of gear Boston does and Boston thinks he knows it all too :roll:

 

[SpikedEggnog]

I saw a video of Rich Piana talking about the exact same thing. I personally wouldn't think switching long esters that quick would have any benefit. But on the other hand that guy is probably running so much gear and hgh probably wouldn't matter...

Yes that's the thing. I seen his video a long time ago on switching compounds, and I'm just not buying it. He has so many fucking androgens in his body, it's damn near impossible to tell what the hell is doing what and he is going to gain regardless because of all this shit he is taking. So I don't think it's right for him to claim that switching compounds is a big contributor to success

another guy is Boston Loyd, he has a HUGE list of ingredients he takes, he breaks down his list on Youtube as well, adding this , subtracting that, again he's taking SO much gear it would be hard to tell what is doing what and the sad part about that is there are SO many youngsters out there looking to Boston for advice and following his advice

dude, the saddest part is i will look better then Bostin on 10mg dbol.

genetics :lol: Lee Priest and Boston been going back and forth on Youtube, Boston has balls calling Priest out, Priest looked great in his prime and certainly didnt use anywhere near the amounts of gear Boston does and Boston thinks he knows it all too :roll:

genetics do play a part i believe, but its also Diet and Training. Bostin started taking crazy amounts of gear when he was too young, he had no foundation and took way too much. he made fast drastic changes but it was short lived. its not like lee priest, he didnt use crazy amounts like that but he did use a lot of AAS, BUT the thing is Lee has been training for YEARS and knows how to diet.