Switch things up to keep the Body from adapting ?

[drb_iac]

hey gang,, question,, I'm 57 yrs old, been lifting many many years, did juice for probably 3 years and came off, recently started back up again with 250 mg Sustanon every 5 days, jump started with Dbol ( left over ) till I ran out ,, about 2 weeks then switched to Anadrol for about another 4 weeks, didnt like the bloat and water gain so stopped, started mixing in a blend of Deca 200mg and test enanthate 250mg along with sustanon 250mg, got good results for first couple weeks but soon seems as though the body adapts, I figure I will continue to use the sustanon and blend till gone then try a different blend, maybe test/tren to firm up and cut, afterwards do a "cruise" cycle of just test/tren maybe 150/150mg
I am doing cycle support along side
your thoughts?
I've heard it's a good idea to mix things up and keep the body "off guard"

Dude I do not know who is saying this to you but it is just wrong. You add things as you progress over the years. You do not show your hand in poker as soon as you get your cards. Fooling your body? Yeah..uh huh. Everything you did was stupid. No offense. Here is how you mix things up. 200/200 deca cyp for firsrt three cycles. Fourth cycle 400 deca 200 cyp, fifth cycle 400/400/, Sixth cycle 200/200 40 dbol. Each cycle is 12 weeks. Now lets see what you did that was correct? Oh sorry..,.nothing. Now what is it that you would like to know bro?

 

[drb_iac]

hey gang,, question,, I'm 57 yrs old, been lifting many many years, did juice for probably 3 years and came off, recently started back up again with 250 mg Sustanon every 5 days, jump started with Dbol ( left over ) till I ran out ,, about 2 weeks then switched to Anadrol for about another 4 weeks, didnt like the bloat and water gain so stopped, started mixing in a blend of Deca 200mg and test enanthate 250mg along with sustanon 250mg, got good results for first couple weeks but soon seems as though the body adapts, I figure I will continue to use the sustanon and blend till gone then try a different blend, maybe test/tren to firm up and cut, afterwards do a "cruise" cycle of just test/tren maybe 150/150mg
I am doing cycle support along side
your thoughts?
I've heard it's a good idea to mix things up and keep the body "off guard"

And hey...if your avatar is not you...then make it a cartoon, or a symbol.We don't need pics of who you wished you look like.Start with pee wee herman and you work your ass off and get bigger then post whatever you are as your avatar.

 

[SpikedEggnog]

hey gang,, question,, I'm 57 yrs old, been lifting many many years, did juice for probably 3 years and came off, recently started back up again with 250 mg Sustanon every 5 days, jump started with Dbol ( left over ) till I ran out ,, about 2 weeks then switched to Anadrol for about another 4 weeks, didnt like the bloat and water gain so stopped, started mixing in a blend of Deca 200mg and test enanthate 250mg along with sustanon 250mg, got good results for first couple weeks but soon seems as though the body adapts, I figure I will continue to use the sustanon and blend till gone then try a different blend, maybe test/tren to firm up and cut, afterwards do a "cruise" cycle of just test/tren maybe 150/150mg
I am doing cycle support along side
your thoughts?
I've heard it's a good idea to mix things up and keep the body "off guard"

Dude I do not know who is saying this to you but it is just wrong. You add things as you progress over the years. You do not show your hand in poker as soon as you get your cards. Fooling your body? Yeah..uh huh. Everything you did was stupid. No offense. Here is how you mix things up. 200/200 deca cyp for firsrt three cycles. Fourth cycle 400 deca 200 cyp, fifth cycle 400/400/, Sixth cycle 200/200 40 dbol. Each cycle is 12 weeks. Now lets see what you did that was correct? Oh sorry..,.nothing. Now what is it that you would like to know bro?

lol...drb..

 

[drb_iac]

hey gang,, question,, I'm 57 yrs old, been lifting many many years, did juice for probably 3 years and came off, recently started back up again with 250 mg Sustanon every 5 days, jump started with Dbol ( left over ) till I ran out ,, about 2 weeks then switched to Anadrol for about another 4 weeks, didnt like the bloat and water gain so stopped, started mixing in a blend of Deca 200mg and test enanthate 250mg along with sustanon 250mg, got good results for first couple weeks but soon seems as though the body adapts, I figure I will continue to use the sustanon and blend till gone then try a different blend, maybe test/tren to firm up and cut, afterwards do a "cruise" cycle of just test/tren maybe 150/150mg
I am doing cycle support along side
your thoughts?
I've heard it's a good idea to mix things up and keep the body "off guard"

Dude I do not know who is saying this to you but it is just wrong. You add things as you progress over the years. You do not show your hand in poker as soon as you get your cards. Fooling your body? Yeah..uh huh. Everything you did was stupid. No offense. Here is how you mix things up. 200/200 deca cyp for firsrt three cycles. Fourth cycle 400 deca 200 cyp, fifth cycle 400/400/, Sixth cycle 200/200 40 dbol. Each cycle is 12 weeks. Now lets see what you did that was correct? Oh sorry..,.nothing. Now what is it that you would like to know bro?

lol...drb..

friggin hilarious!!

 

[drb_iac]

I actually went to the scientific literature for you to see how the porgess is with the aids work and as well as the anitaging foundation. I looked up what Durk Pearson has said. Durk is more widely known for forcing the FDA to get their noses out of the supp industry. Well the aids doctors run test and deca and use it for every cycle. They may use it for the first 6 cycles before then adding var to it. In extreme case adrol. So the way I wrote it out for you is what the leading docs do. These are endocrinologists, and MD's of many specialties such as bariatric, geriatiric etc. OK? They add only new things when the body stops responding. And remember they only add one thing at a time.

 

[jaharris1701]

hey gang,, question,, I'm 57 yrs old, been lifting many many years, did juice for probably 3 years and came off, recently started back up again with 250 mg Sustanon every 5 days, jump started with Dbol ( left over ) till I ran out ,, about 2 weeks then switched to Anadrol for about another 4 weeks, didnt like the bloat and water gain so stopped, started mixing in a blend of Deca 200mg and test enanthate 250mg along with sustanon 250mg, got good results for first couple weeks but soon seems as though the body adapts, I figure I will continue to use the sustanon and blend till gone then try a different blend, maybe test/tren to firm up and cut, afterwards do a "cruise" cycle of just test/tren maybe 150/150mg
I am doing cycle support along side
your thoughts?
I've heard it's a good idea to mix things up and keep the body "off guard"

And hey...if your avatar is not you...then make it a cartoon, or a symbol.We don't need pics of who you wished you look like.Start with pee wee herman and you work your ass off and get bigger then post whatever you are as your avatar.

excuse me,, but actually that avatar IS me!! 100%,, I'm not foolish enough to put an image of someone I WISH I looked like,,, I've been a serious lifter most of my adult life and what you see there is a result of mostly just Sustanon, diet and hard work,,
now getting back to your advice BEFORE your attitude kicked in,, I appreciate the advice, I come here looking for advice and have gotten good advice, again many things are put out on the internet and many people pick up advice from sources on the net which are not proper way of doing things, lots of bad information out there and lots of fuck heads giving bad advice, that's why I'm here

 

[jaharris1701]

[quote="drb_iac":3jx3e1p2]

hey gang,, question,, I'm 57 yrs old, been lifting many many years, did juice for probably 3 years and came off, recently started back up again with 250 mg Sustanon every 5 days, jump started with Dbol ( left over ) till I ran out ,, about 2 weeks then switched to Anadrol for about another 4 weeks, didnt like the bloat and water gain so stopped, started mixing in a blend of Deca 200mg and test enanthate 250mg along with sustanon 250mg, got good results for first couple weeks but soon seems as though the body adapts, I figure I will continue to use the sustanon and blend till gone then try a different blend, maybe test/tren to firm up and cut, afterwards do a "cruise" cycle of just test/tren maybe 150/150mg
I am doing cycle support along side
your thoughts?
I've heard it's a good idea to mix things up and keep the body "off guard"

Dude I do not know who is saying this to you but it is just wrong. You add things as you progress over the years. You do not show your hand in poker as soon as you get your cards. Fooling your body? Yeah..uh huh. Everything you did was stupid. No offense. Here is how you mix things up. 200/200 deca cyp for firsrt three cycles. Fourth cycle 400 deca 200 cyp, fifth cycle 400/400/, Sixth cycle 200/200 40 dbol. Each cycle is 12 weeks. Now lets see what you did that was correct? Oh sorry..,.nothing. Now what is it that you would like to know bro?

lol...drb..

friggin hilarious!![/quote:3jx3e1p2]
you know,,, I DONT see what's so "friggin hilarious" about the opening question,, if you think about it logically,, you wouldnt go to the gym and do the SAME routine, over and over again for months at a time, you change things up, the body adapts, so to the uneducated mind the same idea would pertain in this circumstance as well, the body adapts so you throw in a curve ball to keep it off guard, again this exact point was on Youtube ( Rich Piana ) whom I'm sure many here recognize,
but to ask a legitimate question and be made fun of on this site when I'm looking for information as I'm SURE MANY people here are is NO way to run a forum

 

[middle aged fat guy]

if you think about it logically,, you wouldnt go to the gym and do the SAME routine, over and over again for months at a time,

Yes you do. It's called consistency. The only thing that *has* to change for someone to benefit is the intensity.

you change things up, the body adapts

The body adapts by growing. This happens when you overload the muscle and allow it to recover, before doing it all over again - consistently.

So to the uneducated mind the same idea would pertain in this circumstance as well, the body adapts so you throw in a curve ball to keep it off guard, again

Fun fact: I once ran no more than 400mg of Test E for 24 months straight and improved to the point that I could hold 235lbs @ 6% for the second 12 months. That was 400mgs of the same compound without any ancillaries.

this exact point was on Youtube ( Rich Piana ) whom I'm sure many here recognize,

Rich is on so much shit that he could ad an inch to his arms and a further 2 inches to his neck just by blowing a couple of farts out of his ass.

Not to sound harsh, but this really isn't that complicated. A reasonable dose of test and modified diet will work wonders for almost anyone who trains their ass off and is consistent in all three aspects.

 

[SpikedEggnog]

[quote="drb_iac":2eccglga]

hey gang,, question,, I'm 57 yrs old, been lifting many many years, did juice for probably 3 years and came off, recently started back up again with 250 mg Sustanon every 5 days, jump started with Dbol ( left over ) till I ran out ,, about 2 weeks then switched to Anadrol for about another 4 weeks, didnt like the bloat and water gain so stopped, started mixing in a blend of Deca 200mg and test enanthate 250mg along with sustanon 250mg, got good results for first couple weeks but soon seems as though the body adapts, I figure I will continue to use the sustanon and blend till gone then try a different blend, maybe test/tren to firm up and cut, afterwards do a "cruise" cycle of just test/tren maybe 150/150mg
I am doing cycle support along side
your thoughts?
I've heard it's a good idea to mix things up and keep the body "off guard"

Dude I do not know who is saying this to you but it is just wrong. You add things as you progress over the years. You do not show your hand in poker as soon as you get your cards. Fooling your body? Yeah..uh huh. Everything you did was stupid. No offense. Here is how you mix things up. 200/200 deca cyp for firsrt three cycles. Fourth cycle 400 deca 200 cyp, fifth cycle 400/400/, Sixth cycle 200/200 40 dbol. Each cycle is 12 weeks. Now lets see what you did that was correct? Oh sorry..,.nothing. Now what is it that you would like to know bro?

lol...drb..

friggin hilarious!!

you know,,, I DONT see what's so "friggin hilarious" about the opening question,, if you think about it logically,, you wouldnt go to the gym and do the SAME routine, over and over again for months at a time, you change things up, the body adapts, so to the uneducated mind the same idea would pertain in this circumstance as well, the body adapts so you throw in a curve ball to keep it off guard, again this exact point was on Youtube ( Rich Piana ) whom I'm sure many here recognize,
but to ask a legitimate question and be made fun of on this site when I'm looking for information as I'm SURE MANY people here are is NO way to run a forum[/quote:2eccglga]

dude im laughing at drb, thats why i said lol DRB..and hes not making fun of you man - you have to realize how many people come on here daily and have no experience and post stuff about roid cycles and this and that - so just take it easy man..

id have to agree with DRB here though, it just seems you are all over the place man..

 

[drb_iac]

hey gang,, question,, I'm 57 yrs old, been lifting many many years, did juice for probably 3 years and came off, recently started back up again with 250 mg Sustanon every 5 days, jump started with Dbol ( left over ) till I ran out ,, about 2 weeks then switched to Anadrol for about another 4 weeks, didnt like the bloat and water gain so stopped, started mixing in a blend of Deca 200mg and test enanthate 250mg along with sustanon 250mg, got good results for first couple weeks but soon seems as though the body adapts, I figure I will continue to use the sustanon and blend till gone then try a different blend, maybe test/tren to firm up and cut, afterwards do a "cruise" cycle of just test/tren maybe 150/150mg
I am doing cycle support along side
your thoughts?
I've heard it's a good idea to mix things up and keep the body "off guard"

And hey...if your avatar is not you...then make it a cartoon, or a symbol.We don't need pics of who you wished you look like.Start with pee wee herman and you work your ass off and get bigger then post whatever you are as your avatar.

excuse me,, but actually that avatar IS me!! 100%,, I'm not foolish enough to put an image of someone I WISH I looked like,,, I've been a serious lifter most of my adult life and what you see there is a result of mostly just Sustanon, diet and hard work,,
now getting back to your advice BEFORE your attitude kicked in,, I appreciate the advice, I come here looking for advice and have gotten good advice, again many things are put out on the internet and many people pick up advice from sources on the net which are not proper way of doing things, lots of bad information out there and lots of fuck heads giving bad advice, that's why I'm here

No attitude dude. Just keeping things somewhat fun. I answered your question and told you it is not a good idea to show your body every kind of gear there is right away. So ..for you..I went and read medical literature for over 2 hours last night and then re-posted for your benefit. I spent time reading to be sure I answered you correctly. And according to current reasearch the advice I gave you was correct. Now you really answered your own question. You look like the avatar yet stated 'on only sustanon, diet and hard work.' So now add some deca and keep on truckin. If that avatar is you then you do not need to ask me for advice....I should ask you.

 

[jaharris1701]

Thanks fellas, just got back from the gym, ARM day .my favorite
Drb I appreciate you taking the time and doing the research, you've given me useful info in previous posts so I DO appreciate your input,
Yes the avatar IS indeed me, at my age I'm not here to impress, I'm here for information, as stated there is SO much misinformation out there, from YouTube, to friends in the gym and this forum hasn't been around THAT long so I find sites like this invaluable.
My experience has mostly been with a test base, most of the time I've used Sustanon as I got good results with it,
Again To my thought the theory of switching things up made sense, its good to find out now that its not
As for training though, I have a basic schedule and plan but I DO switch up exercises on every work out of course adding weight as needed but form and feel for me is more important then pushing enormous amounts of weight,
I also realize there has to be an enormous amount of youngster who don't have a clue and post crazy ideas but again I'm just thankful for a resource such as this,
I certainly don't know it all, I never run an AI before OR cycle support so I've learned a lot from you fellas and I thank you guys for that! !
Drb. I will take you up on your advice, was it you that also added in some EQ along with the Deca?

 

[RickRock]

There are a number of ways to keep growth happening, and I think it comes down mostly to overcoming adaptation. This can be accomplished by obviously changing up training by increasing workload with weight and/or reps (progressive overload), and by changing up intensity, frequency and volume. Dietary changes can make a big impact too, as well as improving androgen receptor response by coming off or cruising long enough to lower myostatin. Changing compounds probably has the least amount of effect than any of these other tactics

 

[drb_iac]

Thanks fellas, just got back from the gym, ARM day .my favorite
Drb I appreciate you taking the time and doing the research, you've given me useful info in previous posts so I DO appreciate your input,
Yes the avatar IS indeed me, at my age I'm not here to impress, I'm here for information, as stated there is SO much misinformation out there, from YouTube, to friends in the gym and this forum hasn't been around THAT long so I find sites like this invaluable.
My experience has mostly been with a test base, most of the time I've used Sustanon as I got good results with it,
Again To my thought the theory of switching things up made sense, its good to find out now that its not
As for training though, I have a basic schedule and plan but I DO switch up exercises on every work out of course adding weight as needed but form and feel for me is more important then pushing enormous amounts of weight,
I also realize there has to be an enormous amount of youngster who don't have a clue and post crazy ideas but again I'm just thankful for a resource such as this,
I certainly don't know it all, I never run an AI before OR cycle support so I've learned a lot from you fellas and I thank you guys for that! !
Drb. I will take you up on your advice, was it you that also added in some EQ along with the Deca?

You know we say we change things up, but really we keep a certain basic foundation. For instance do you still do bench press, bent rows, dumbell curls ,preacher curls etc? No, what we change is poundage, sets, reps, add a few polishing moves in with cables etc.
The same for gear. So for me my base was always deca/cyp. The deca /cyp/ dbol, then deca/ cyp/adrol. In my early days I was always looking for mass. Then as years past I finally did deca/cyp/primo, then deca/cyp/eq . You follow? So deca cyp was always there. Bench press was there. High protein was there. It is the periphery that changes. I have ditched things as I got older. Tren, dbol,adrol, halo,winny. So you keep evolving. Today my blast would be 250 sus/200cyp/200deca/600eq. Or 200sus/200deca/600primo. It is a contant change ..the flux keeps moving....but not so fast. It moves but it all should move slowly. I dont change my diet,my gear,my routine every week. I run with one thing until I think the horse is dead. It also helps when you curb your expectations. All I know right now is that I am going to workout hard and heavy. I know I am going to eat 300grams of protein. I know I will wisely use gear. AND whatever comes from this I will accept. It really is just a way of life that we have chosen. We are a weird group, a unique group and we are the minority of men and women. We accept that.Why? Because we are mighty in both flesh and mind.Yes we are different, and we like it that way

 

[jaharris1701]

Thank you Rick and drb,, both of you guys have given me valuable information and THAT'S why I'm thankful for this site !!

 

[Angel]

DrB. & RR coming through with knowledge!!!

changing my life around one day at a time!!

 

[RickRock]

Re: RE: Re: Switch things up to keep the Body from adapting ?

Thank you Rick and drb,, both of you guys have given me valuable information and THAT'S why I'm thankful for this site !!

No problem at all my brother! I'm glad you can find the info useful, and we could be of help to you

 

[r2truth]

Re: RE: Re: Switch things up to keep the Body from adapting ?

I saw a video of Rich Piana talking about the exact same thing. I personally wouldn't think switching long esters that quick would have any benefit. But on the other hand that guy is probably running so much gear and hgh probably wouldn't matter...

Yes that's the thing. I seen his video a long time ago on switching compounds, and I'm just not buying it. He has so many fucking androgens in his body, it's damn near impossible to tell what the hell is doing what and he is going to gain regardless because of all this shit he is taking. So I don't think it's right for him to claim that switching compounds is a big contributor to success

another guy is Boston Loyd, he has a HUGE list of ingredients he takes, he breaks down his list on Youtube as well, adding this , subtracting that, again he's taking SO much gear it would be hard to tell what is doing what and the sad part about that is there are SO many youngsters out there looking to Boston for advice and following his advice

dude, the saddest part is i will look better then Bostin on 10mg dbol.

genetics :lol: Lee Priest and Boston been going back and forth on Youtube, Boston has balls calling Priest out, Priest looked great in his prime and certainly didnt use anywhere near the amounts of gear Boston does and Boston thinks he knows it all too :roll:

Lol that video was funny as he'll, Lee definitely pissed off bostin but the sad thing was everything that's Lee said was correct.

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[DylanGemelli]

sorry im late getting in on your thread bro...

here's an example.. i have ran damn near identical cycles the past 3 years, or at least more so based around test, eq and primo along with winstrol and sarms... on and off use of masteron and a one time tren etc but basically the same and i only gain more and more each time... if i have a different goal, which i am actually going to run npp next cycle, then i accommodate that particular goal and im always ready to give something a try like i did with tbol and absolutely loved it but it generally stays based around what i gave you... thats up to you on how you run things, taking the proper time and the dosage etc to run in conjunction with YOUR body response... everyone responds a little different bro... that's just the way it is...

i can tell you that winstrol is my favorite oral and running it with s4 and proviron is a muscle hardening dream... winstrol is VERY strong as is S4 and the strength and vascularity you get from these will be far beyond pleasing bro... I would HIGHLY recommend these along with GW-501516 for ultra hardening, cutting and clean muscle preservation throughout... i can help you to implement them into your cycle if you need bro...