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sober peoples!!!

I spent years going in and out of aa/na.. countless rehabs and detoxes. Finally kicked dope cold turkey in jail this time and never looked back. Was homeless when i got out so I went to a halfway house and got back on track. I go to AA now and try and live by the principles

Kicking dope cold turkey in jail, dam I don't miss that at all. That is by far the worst feeling anyone can experience. I was homeless for a while to. I tried to follow the meetings when I first got clean but I just hate all the group hugs and random men trying to give me a hug when they introduce themselves to me. It seems like a lot of meeting goers don't know how to shake hands. I do like the 12 steps though. Some of them really help you look at your addiction.
 
Congrats on your 2 years. Jan 15 is my 2 yrs clean after a 20 year drug and alcohol run.

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Kicking dope cold turkey in jail, dam I don't miss that at all. That is by far the worst feeling anyone can experience. I was homeless for a while to. I tried to follow the meetings when I first got clean but I just hate all the group hugs and random men trying to give me a hug when they introduce themselves to me. It seems like a lot of meeting goers don't know how to shake hands. I do like the 12 steps though. Some of them really help you look at your addiction.

I happy to see that your clean and with the addiction you have to go through certain obstacles hit rock bottom to get where you want to go.
 
Well I don't have a sober story yet, but I did tell myself the bottle of Jack I finished this week was going to be my last. That's going to be hard. Definitely admire you guys dedication.

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Only you can decide if you have a problem with drugs and alcohol. If I were you I would try not drinking and see how you feel. What's the worst that could happen. If you wanna drink again the bottle will be waiting for you. Just give it a shot bro, it's worth trying.
 
I happy to see that your clean and with the addiction you have to go through certain obstacles hit rock bottom to get where you want to go.

Ya I had to hit rock bottom a few times before I finally realized how shity life had become. Never thought that getting into bodybuilding would save my life.
 
Ya I had to hit rock bottom a few times before I finally realized how shity life had become. Never thought that getting into bodybuilding would save my life.

I understand I did also and I never thought also that BB would change mine too!!
 
My first experience drinking was at 15. My bud had a dad who was a big scotch fan. He calls me over to tell me his parents are out of town. He pulls out this bottle that is supposedly awesome shit called Chivas Royal Salute. He pours me a shot and I have no idea what to do with it. So it take a big sip like sipping hot tea. This shit went into my lungs and made me puke.Felt like gasoline in my stomach. I thought to myself....and this is the great shit! Never tried it again.Fuck that nasty ass poison.Kill yourself for what reason? Just pull a .38 and blow your brains out rather than slow death by alcohol. Same with smoking...how the fuck do you get hooked on alcohol and cigs???? My first time sucking a cig liked to collapse my lungs. So WHY would I try liquor or cigs ever again? They say to aquire a taste. WTF? If I keep drinking turpentine then I will aquire a taste. Sorry..not for this little boy...or grown man
 
My first experience drinking was at 15. My bud had a dad who was a big scotch fan. He calls me over to tell me his parents are out of town. He pulls out this bottle that is supposedly awesome shit called Chivas Royal Salute. He pours me a shot and I have no idea what to do with it. So it take a big sip like sipping hot tea. This shit went into my lungs and made me puke.Felt like gasoline in my stomach. I thought to myself....and this is the great shit! Never tried it again.Fuck that nasty ass poison.Kill yourself for what reason? Just pull a .38 and blow your brains out rather than slow death by alcohol. Same with smoking...how the fuck do you get hooked on alcohol and cigs???? My first time sucking a cig liked to collapse my lungs. So WHY would I try liquor or cigs ever again? They say to aquire a taste. WTF? If I keep drinking turpentine then I will aquire a taste. Sorry..not for this little boy...or grown man

Im pretty sure most people thst ever drank alcohol thought, "this is gross!!" at the first sip. Unfortunately probsbly less than 1% of people who try alcohol only try it once, unless they die. Good for you man.
 
Guys - desperately need help. I just opened Ostarine and Cardarine and they smelled like Vodka! Are they sober? I've been sober for 2+ years and am completely down about this.
 
Congrats on the 2 years. I battle the same. You need to try and contact the maker though. A lot of times they use ethanol (basically Everclear) as the solvent. Regardless if that whiff triggers the old you, then you might want to hold off. The dose is so small that you won’t feel the alcohol. I noticed the same thing the first time I cracked a bottle of liquid dianabol but it wasn’t enough to harm me. Still everyone handles it different and you’ve work hard the past 2 years. See if you can find a manufacturer that uses a different solvent like glycerine or propylene glycol.


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Yeah it's ethanol. because it's 1/42 is it similar to eating rum cake? I'm just worried it will trigger me into losing my mind. I have no clue if the whiff will trigger me. What made you come to the conclusion that it wouldn't affect your sobriety?

I just emailed them asking if they are willing to do an exchange. The problem is I opened two of the bottles even though I didn't take any out.

Do the capsules work?
 
Just celebrated 4 years myself.

To answer your question, it will depend upon you. You will have to be honest with yourself, that is where it can be tricky. Yes, the sarms are most likely suspended in a grain alcohol. The actual quantity upon consumption is small -1/30th of an ounce. Is this enough to trigger the allergic reaction...depends. Were you physically addicted to alcohol? If so, then possibly.

I used drugs and alcohol to change the way i felt. While PED's are not mind or mood altering, IMO they do have the potential to be abused in the same manner as any other drug. For most people this is a non issue, but for an addict, i think the risk for abuse can be higher.

Non addict, wont abuse drugs, alcohol or PED's.

An addict has the potential to abuse anything..drugs, alcohol, PED's, food, sex ect...

This is just something you will have to aware of and honest with yourself about. When i got sober, my complusive nature in other aspects of my life became glaring. Unfortunately, these behaviors dont just go away as it is part of who we are. Instead, they must be channeled and redirected in a more positive direction...health, fitness, career, charity ect.

Just be careful and aware when bringing PED's into the mix as another addiction could easily develope. Just my 2 cents.

If you can find capsules from a reliable source then that would be the safest option.
 
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