Second cycle advice

[drikonets]

Hey,

I'm 35, 6' 2", 218ish lbs. Training consistently 4 or 5x a week for the last year, my diet/nutrition is on point- I meal prep twice a week and eat the typical bodybuilding style foods (rice, chicken, tuna, broccoli, shakes,etc). Getting in 4-5 meals a day. The goal is to put on mass with very little fat.
My first cycle currently is 12 weeks of test e 250 1x a week, test p eod. I've gained close to 10lbs currently at week 8 and am slightly leaner too. Strength has increased and the pumps are night on day from being off and on. i had bloods done before i started pinning and my test levels were in the low range of healthy. I have aromasin on hand but havent experienced any sides at the low dosages i'm on. I am working with a coach/mentor who has 25+ years of experience with compounds and bodybuilding and this is what my second cycle consists of:

400 test-e
400 primo-e
200 nandrolone cyp
25mgs/Ed dbol

nolva on hand as an ai.

Just looking for second opinions here guys.....thx

 

[cmb5017]

Hey,

I'm 35, 6' 2", 218ish lbs. Training consistently 4 or 5x a week for the last year, my diet/nutrition is on point- I meal prep twice a week and eat the typical bodybuilding style foods (rice, chicken, tuna, broccoli, shakes,etc). Getting in 4-5 meals a day. The goal is to put on mass with very little fat.
My first cycle currently is 12 weeks of test e 250 1x a week, test p eod. I've gained close to 10lbs currently at week 8 and am slightly leaner too. Strength has increased and the pumps are night on day from being off and on. i had bloods done before i started pinning and my test levels were in the low range of healthy. I have aromasin on hand but havent experienced any sides at the low dosages i'm on. I am working with a coach/mentor who has 25+ years of experience with compounds and bodybuilding and this is what my second cycle consists of:

400 test-e
400 primo-e
200 nandrolone cyp
25mgs/Ed dbol

nolva on hand as an ai.

Just looking for second opinions here guys.....thx

First off u training for a year? U don't need steroids yet..secondly your coach is dumb as fuck if he told u to use Nolvadex as an ai for a nandrolone..your guaranteed to grow titties

 

[cmb5017]

If you do continue and use a 2cd cycle(as I'm sure u will) it needs to be test only again..with a higher dose..U don't jump into the deep water before you learn to swim

 

[drikonets]

If you do continue and use a 2cd cycle(as I'm sure u will) it needs to be test only again..with a higher dose..U don't jump into the deep water before you learn to swim

i thought the same but aren't the dosages of the other compounds low enough where i'm still easing into it? what would you recommend as an AI if nolva is no good?

 

[cmb5017]

i thought the same but aren't the dosages of the other compounds low enough where i'm still easing into it? what would you recommend as an AI if nolva is no good?

Well first bro Nolvadex is not an ai...it's a serm. Ai would be arimidex or aromasin and I would highly recommend aromasin at 12.5 mgs eod.
What pct do u have planned for the cycle your on?

 

[cmb5017]

As far as the doses..the doses are fine for a 3rd or 4th cycle..but once u start adding multiple compounds off the bat you'll get multiple sides..and your stuck not knowing which compound is causing which side and how to counter act it. Also your blood work will change and you won't know why certain numbers are high or low n which compound is causing it? make sense? U run test only a few runs...break Ur body in. Let yourself learn how it's affecting u...then add (one) oral...then add another compound and so forth...don't jump in you'll do yourself a ton of damage

 

[drikonets]

If you do continue and use a 2cd cycle(as I'm sure u will) it needs to be test only again..with a higher dose..U don't jump into the deep water before you learn to swim

i thought the same but aren't the dosages of the other compounds low enough where i'm still easing into it? what would you recommend as an AI if nolva is no good?

ok well i do have aromasin on hand as well. and i will probably just cruise at a low dose of test before starting my second cycle. low dose of test meaning test e 250 1x a week. but before i change my pinning schedule i check with my mentor. the guy is know on the forums and has a reputation of knowing his shit and i trust his advice with certainty.

 

[cmb5017]

Lol well he's not known here! he's a dumbass..I wouldn't trust him telling me Shit if he told u use Nolvadex as an ai..that's elementary knowledge..and cruising at 250 isn't cruising,your just staying on cycle..so your basically going to run 3 cycles at once? oh boy...ok well I'm out a here brother. Good luck to ya

 

[drikonets]

As far as the doses..the doses are fine for a 3rd or 4th cycle..but once u start adding multiple compounds off the bat you'll get multiple sides..and your stuck not knowing which compound is causing which side and how to counter act it. Also your blood work will change and you won't know why certain numbers are high or low n which compound is causing it? make sense? U run test only a few runs...break Ur body in. Let yourself learn how it's affecting u...then add (one) oral...then add another compound and so forth...don't jump in you'll do yourself a ton of damage

ok- i will bring up the potential for problems with multiple compounds too early with him and see what he says. i dont want titties man

 

[EZ_E]

Hey,

I'm 35, 6' 2", 218ish lbs. Training consistently 4 or 5x a week for the last year, my diet/nutrition is on point- I meal prep twice a week and eat the typical bodybuilding style foods (rice, chicken, tuna, broccoli, shakes,etc). Getting in 4-5 meals a day. The goal is to put on mass with very little fat.
My first cycle currently is 12 weeks of test e 250 1x a week, test p eod. I've gained close to 10lbs currently at week 8 and am slightly leaner too. Strength has increased and the pumps are night on day from being off and on. i had bloods done before i started pinning and my test levels were in the low range of healthy. I have aromasin on hand but havent experienced any sides at the low dosages i'm on. I am working with a coach/mentor who has 25+ years of experience with compounds and bodybuilding and this is what my second cycle consists of:

400 test-e
400 primo-e
200 nandrolone cyp
25mgs/Ed dbol

nolva on hand as an ai.

Just looking for second opinions here guys.....thx

A few questions/observtions;

A) You've been training for 1 year?
B) You're running Test E and Test P at the same time? What dose on the P?
C) What does "low range of healthy" mean?
D) Just gonna nonchalantly cruise on a low dose of 250 mg's of test until your next cycle? That's not 2 cycles, that's staying on.
E) 2nd cycle 1,000 mg's of oil PLUS d-bol. HELL NO.
D) Nolva is not an AI

You need to post your COMPLETE stats;

Age
Height
Weight
Body fat %
Years of training
Complete cycle history (compounds, doses, lengths of time, when they were run)
PCT for each cycle
Goals
Supplements (if any)
General idea of nutrition
Any other relevant info (injuries, surgeries you've had, etc.)

Be honest; don't write what you think we want to hear

Also; read this:

https://www.isarms.com/forums/stero...w-here-read-been-here-ready-anyway-10368.html

 

[SpikedEggnog]

A few questions/observtions;

A) You've been training for 1 year?
B) You're running Test E and Test P at the same time? What dose on the P?
C) What does "low range of healthy" mean?
D) Just gonna nonchalantly cruise on a low dose of 250 mg's of test until your next cycle? That's not 2 cycles, that's staying on.
E) 2nd cycle 1,000 mg's of oil PLUS d-bol. HELL NO.
D) Nolva is not an AI

You need to post your COMPLETE stats;

Age
Height
Weight
Body fat %
Years of training
Complete cycle history (compounds, doses, lengths of time, when they were run)
PCT for each cycle
Goals
Supplements (if any)
General idea of nutrition
Any other relevant info (injuries, surgeries you've had, etc.)

Be honest; don't write what you think we want to hear

Also; read this:

https://www.isarms.com/forums/stero...w-here-read-been-here-ready-anyway-10368.html

This right here bro ^^^^^^^^
Sick of all these "coaches" nowadays. Complete morons giving TRASH advice. Bro you need to stop trusting this dude of he says Nolva is an AI. Which number one is is NOT it's a SERM and number two you don't run Nolva with a nandrolone. everyone knows this. BASIC KNOWLEDGE BRO. If your coach is so experienced he should know that Nolva can mess with prolactin with nandrolone can ALSO which is why you don't want to stack the two. AND on top of that he goes from test only to 3 compounds plus oral dbol?? Bro HECK NO

And by the way. What the piss is nandrolone cypionate. I've never seen a cypionate ester on nandrolone. Although I'm sure it exists....You mean decanoate?