Please analyze the SH!T out of this bloodword

[RickRock]

Thanks man! I will get aromasin first thing tomorrow. How much should I put the dosage at? 25mg ed? For how long? (shits expensive though :/) Is there anything cheaper that you could use instead?

About what you said about PCT. Thats another thing that billions of "pro's" on other forums have told me is completely useless since I am on TRT. Should I still do a pct although my testo levels will be "normal" because of the Nebido?

If you are on TRT then no pct is needed, so don't worry about that.

As for aromasin, dose it 12.5mg EOD. You can get it for a great price right here, and this is exactly what I use myself https://www.sarmsx.com/liquiaro-15mgs-ml-30mls


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[mrolson]

If you are on TRT then no pct is needed, so don't worry about that.

As for aromasin, dose it 12.5mg EOD. You can get it for a great price right here, and this is exactly what I use myself https://www.sarmsx.com/liquiaro-15mgs-ml-30mls


(PM me for a price list for Biotech Labs and 10% discount)

Just curious, but whats the shipping price to china?

 

[DylanGemelli]

Thanks man! At least you are mature and experienced enough to tell that being helpful does a hell of a lot more than pointing out obvious mistakes and kicking someone thats already lying down (not mentioning any names). Why these individuals bother posting at all is a true mystery. Maybe it makes them feel better about themselves somehow.

I have spent months reading about this too, but the thing is, who do you trust? This seems like a serious board with serious people, but does that mean that I should trust everyone here? The problem is not doing research, the problem is figuring out what research is truth and whats BS.

I have no signs of high estrogen and would never have known about it if I had not done that bloodtest. Should I still have been taking an AI? A lot of people would say no as AI's comes with side effects too thus should only be taken when needed.

So besides aromasin, is there anything else I will need?

this is the problem... you have received piss poor information from people... you dont just start using an ai once you have symptoms... thats absurd... why anyone would tell you that is just ridiculous.... you dont wait until you already have an issue... you dont want to ever get to that point... your way past that point with these numbers... its dangerous to have heavily inflated estrogen, far beyond the worry of gyno... part of the problem here is you have been horribly misguided... stick around here where you can actually learn things properly and avoid this kind of problem... this panel is literaly the worst i have seen in 10 years... its one i dont even know where to start with and ive NEVER had that happen... you have to get this corrected.. it indicates SEVERELY reckless use... to the point where you are completely out of control with what your doing... i would honestly get to the doctor and get some help... we can all try to help but ultimately, its bad and just addressing certain areas is not enough..

 

[mrolson]

this is the problem... you have received piss poor information from people... you dont just start using an ai once you have symptoms... thats absurd... why anyone would tell you that is just ridiculous.... you dont wait until you already have an issue... you dont want to ever get to that point... your way past that point with these numbers... its dangerous to have heavily inflated estrogen, far beyond the worry of gyno... part of the problem here is you have been horribly misguided... stick around here where you can actually learn things properly and avoid this kind of problem... this panel is literaly the worst i have seen in 10 years... its one i dont even know where to start with and ive NEVER had that happen... you have to get this corrected.. it indicates SEVERELY reckless use... to the point where you are completely out of control with what your doing... i would honestly get to the doctor and get some help... we can all try to help but ultimately, its bad and just addressing certain areas is not enough..

Thanks for the answer D, but expect for the estrogen, I dont see whats so bad about it. I know that you are very busy but except for the aromasin, is there anything else I can do for now? I will stick with the cypionate until I get things under control and do a follow up bloodtest in a month. Which other levels do you think are serious problems that need attention?

 

[DylanGemelli]

Thanks for the answer D, but expect for the estrogen, I dont see whats so bad about it. I know that you are very busy but except for the aromasin, is there anything else I can do for now? I will stick with the cypionate until I get things under control and do a follow up bloodtest in a month. Which other levels do you think are serious problems that need attention?

im happy to help... brother, did you look at your own panel? half the values have a check by them because they are out of range... thats horrible... i mean just horrible.. you should have like 2 or 3 out or range, not half the panel... ive literally never seen that before... its that bad... your all over the place... you should never be like that on a panel... your test AND lh and fsh are bottomed out on top of ALL the other issues... im not trying to a dick but im just telling you all the facts... your a wreck.. no lie... you definitely need to address the estrogen, yes... i would start aromasin at 25 mg per day for at least a week, then drop to 12.5 mg for a week before going to every other day...

 

[mrolson]

im happy to help... brother, did you look at your own panel? half the values have a check by them because they are out of range... thats horrible... i mean just horrible.. you should have like 2 or 3 out or range, not half the panel... ive literally never seen that before... its that bad... your all over the place... you should never be like that on a panel... your test AND lh and fsh are bottomed out on top of ALL the other issues... im not trying to a dick but im just telling you all the facts... your a wreck.. no lie... you definitely need to address the estrogen, yes... i would start aromasin at 25 mg per day for at least a week, then drop to 12.5 mg for a week before going to every other day...

I am very grateful for your help Dylan!

I just got back from the hospital here in China with aromasin. I dont think you guys over there understand how expensive it is here... its 10$ per pill! The doctor would not prescribe more than 10 pills, but that should last me for a while. Please tell me the most ECONOMICAL way of using this. You said 25mg a day for a week, but is it possible to cut back a bit on those numbers seeing as expensive this shit is? Could I start out with 12,5mg every day for a week then 12.5mg eod for the rest of the cycle?

Also, there is something else that I am a bit confused about. Does this mean that every time I take steroids (which I do all the time since I am on TRT) that I will have to aromasin too? I mean, am I bound to take 12.5 mg aromasin eod for the rest of my life because that will be expensive.

How will I know when to take it or not?

 

[mrolson]

Just took 25mg, gonna take 25 more tomorrow, then 12,5 two days, then 12.5 eod.

 

[ziggzigg]

If you are in China I would hit up cbbram and ask him for his his list from Pharma Lady.. he is one of her reps and its pretty cheap man. Plus it ships from Hong Kong.


I'm with DylanGemelli - You need to be under the care of a doctor who can help you get your levels back under control instead of throwing darts and hoping one sticks.

And your estrogen wasn't the only thing out of whack... you had over a dozen ticks of over / under

 

[mrolson]

cbbram? So he is a user here? I am a bit scared of making business with "random" people online, but on the other hand, its exactly what I am doing now too.

I dont understand how some of my levels could be so extremely fucked up. I dont smoke, drink or do drugs. I dont do like 10 different steroids. All I did was test enh and masteron.

Although, I believe one reason for the high estrogen could be that the masteron had been keeping that suppressed and when I went off masteron about 10 days before the test, maybe my estrogen went crazy.

Also, I did inject the morning before the blood work.... I dont know how sticking needles through muscles affects some of the values but I am sure that it wont be good for stuff like Creatine Kinase that registers muscle damage, also I did legs the night before the bloodtest and we all know that doing legs the right way will fucking destroy some muscle tissue.

I simply did not take this test seriously, I mostly only did it to make sure my stuff was working.

I will stick with 400mg testo cyp e4d with the aromasin eod, try to live healthy in general, lose some bf, and redo the test in 6 weeks. I just hope the cypionate will be enough for some nice gains. Its not the ester I would chose but its all that available right now.

 

[ziggzigg]

No idea man unless you have an underlying issue. Why would you take a dose right before you get blood work? I wouldn't focus so much on gains and losses right now... you want to get your system in harmony before you do permanent damage.

Yes he's a mod here. I too was nervous -but just search pharma lady in the search bar on this site and read the reviews about her products. Doubtful that its a scheme of fake users leaving reviews so I put a little faith into the system. My order came within 4 days of ordering it. It's legit.

Have you had your STD panel done recently? Not trying to scare you but your blood cell counts and monocytes were pretty elevated to be a household head cold.

 

[mrolson]

No idea man unless you have an underlying issue. Why would you take a dose right before you get blood work? I wouldn't focus so much on gains and losses right now... you want to get your system in harmony before you do permanent damage.

Yes he's a mod here. I too was nervous -but just search pharma lady in the search bar on this site and read the reviews about her products. Doubtful that its a scheme of fake users leaving reviews so I put a little faith into the system. My order came within 4 days of ordering it. It's legit.

Have you had your STD panel done recently? Not trying to scare you but your blood cell counts and monocytes were pretty elevated to be a household head cold.

Did you use you real name when ordering?

Anyways, I think its my sore throat thats the culprit. It was just about breaking out that exact day so I guess my body was fighting it like crazy and now I have full blown damn cold. I will redo the test later on after some healthy living and we will see.

 

[buen]

Dude....sorry but the tough love is your seriously messed up
Stop your cycle...stop worrying about gains and start worrying about your health
You don't seem to take it seriously
Gains can be made anytime later after you regain your health
NOTHING is more important than your health....lose that and you will never be able to make gains
Please get your house in order bro....AAS use is for people in the prime of health and at the peak of performance
Unfortunately right now you are neither

 

[sepe166]

I was pretty reckless on my cycle but at least my bloods were almost normal lol and not death like.

 

[chelades]

Have to agree. I've added my constructive criticism and advice in the other thread, but I have to say, this is the epitome of someone who has absolutely ZERO business running steroids and has NO clue how to safely do it, nor any research information period, and the wrecklessness shows.

You need to get the hell off taking 800mg a week of Test for one. That is not a cruise dose AT ALL. That is not even a suitable blast dose. Your body is screaming at you that there's problems, you've the bloodwork to back it up - maybe you should stop and listen instead of insisting people are exaggerating and 'wanting to make gains'.

What does "try to live healthy in general" mean, after stating you're doing 400mg every 4 days and unsure how to even dose an AI? That is the antithesis of living healthy. Stop blasting in the Test, get back to a suitable TRT dose and hope to hell that things correct themselves. Then you can worry about upping the dose, safely, and with knowledge.

75mg Test Monday 8PM
12.5mg Aromasin Tuesday 8PM

75mg Test Thursday 8PM
12.5mg Aromasin Friday 8PM

This is literally ALL you should be doing for a good 8 weeks minimum. That's 2 months. Should put you high normal, take all the strain away with 150mg a week combined, half an Aromasin 24 hours after injection to control the E2. Job's a goodin'.

You're past the level of 'wanting gains'. You should be 'wanting to not f@#k up and die'. That's all you're going about the right way.

 

[RickRock]

I am very grateful for your help Dylan!

I just got back from the hospital here in China with aromasin. I dont think you guys over there understand how expensive it is here... its 10$ per pill! The doctor would not prescribe more than 10 pills, but that should last me for a while. Please tell me the most ECONOMICAL way of using this. You said 25mg a day for a week, but is it possible to cut back a bit on those numbers seeing as expensive this shit is? Could I start out with 12,5mg every day for a week then 12.5mg eod for the rest of the cycle?

Also, there is something else that I am a bit confused about. Does this mean that every time I take steroids (which I do all the time since I am on TRT) that I will have to aromasin too? I mean, am I bound to take 12.5 mg aromasin eod for the rest of my life because that will be expensive.

How will I know when to take it or not?

There's no reason to pay 10 bucks a pill bro. That's absurd. We have plenty of sources here that can take care of you with aromasin and ship to you in China. I know sarmsx will, for sure


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[mrolson]

There's no reason to pay 10 bucks a pill bro. That's absurd. We have plenty of sources here that can take care of you with aromasin and ship to you in China. I know sarmsx will, for sure


(PM me for a price list for Biotech Labs and 10% discount)

Did PM you earlier today...

 

[RickRock]

Did PM you earlier today...

Responded to your pm bro

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[ziggzigg]

Yes I used my real name because I had to give her a shipping address plus I had to send money using Western Union.

Listen man I know its probably not easy to take the harsh criticism you are receiving but try and take the good with the bad. People are concerned about your health at the root of it all. But legit man you need to be monitored for the next 3 months by a professional. Take it from someone who has lost their health due to chronic fatigue that lasted over 5 years. Once you lose it... it becomes a battle every single day.

I actually was in better shape and carved up with zero supplements and not for nothing but my testosterone levels that were off the charts on the lower end of the spectrum. Meaning my levels were that of an 80 year old. I went on testosterone for fatigue not to look good. When people see me they think I spend 20 hours in the gym a week. The reality of it is I go 3-4 times a week and spend 45 mins if that per workout. How do I hold 3% BF... its not because I'm a narcissist... its because of my diet which is 75-80% of the game along with working out smart and allowing your body to recover.

The moral of this story is you honestly don't need testosterone and steroids to get jacked... I got there by chasing after my health not chasing after beach muscles.

 

[mrolson]

Yes I used my real name because I had to give her a shipping address plus I had to send money using Western Union.

Listen man I know its probably not easy to take the harsh criticism you are receiving but try and take the good with the bad. People are concerned about your health at the root of it all. But legit man you need to be monitored for the next 3 months by a professional. Take it from someone who has lost their health due to chronic fatigue that lasted over 5 years. Once you lose it... it becomes a battle every single day.

I actually was in better shape and carved up with zero supplements and not for nothing but my testosterone levels that were off the charts on the lower end of the spectrum. Meaning my levels were that of an 80 year old. I went on testosterone for fatigue not to look good. When people see me they think I spend 20 hours in the gym a week. The reality of it is I go 3-4 times a week and spend 45 mins if that per workout. How do I hold 3% BF... its not because I'm a narcissist... its because of my diet which is 75-80% of the game along with working out smart and allowing your body to recover.

The moral of this story is you honestly don't need testosterone and steroids to get jacked... I got there by chasing after my health not chasing after beach muscles.

Yeah, I guess but its hard to accept that you have to lower the dosage :/

I have one pretty important question, and you can call me a noob for asking this but how the hell else am I going to learn? Since some testosterone always will aromatise (or whatever its called) to estrogen at some point, should you ALWAYS take aromasin 12.5mg eod when you are on test as a precaution?

I found out that my E2 levels were high by accident. I had no clue or any "feeling" that they were high, at least nothing that I noticed.

My point is this, how the hell do you know when to take an AI? I dont think even experienced veterans like many of you do bloodtests every week to tell how high your estro is, so how the hell do you tell? Do you just throw it in there whether its needed or not?

 

[ziggzigg]

Generally you go every 3 months to get your blood checked. I've been under the care of a hormone doc for the past 5 years and before that it was and endo in the city. Their protocol is Clomid and Test. But I started the clomid first so that my estrogen never got a chance to get high. I also went on HCG every 4th month to keep my balls filled. But I'm supplementing because my hypothalamus is shutdown do to hypogonadism (under-active hypothalamus). Basically my hypothalamus isn't secreting GnRH which then stimulates the pituitary gland to secrete LH and FSH.


I just recently went on Aromasin because I feel that it is a more effective AI. I also have a huge prob with my libido and in the US Proviron is illegal and it's the only treatment available for hypogonadism. Once everything checked out and is in sync I added 4iu's of HGH and plan on using it to repair the damage done to my body and mind from having my HPA axis out of whack. I'm not doing it for gains and will probably be on it 6-9 months.

The last piece I added to the puzzle was TAD-600 which is basically glutathione and vit c that you inject into you using an IV. It's the worlds strongest antioxidant and will actually lighten your skin as it removes the toxins from your body.


I think everyone responds to estrogen differently. I tend to get more sensitive and don't take criticism well. Others start to get bloated and swollen tits. Its sort of like going off percocet after being on it for 30 days. You don't really understand what withdrawals are until you experience them a few times. If its your first time feeling estrogen you really have nothing to compare it to.

I would only be using Testosterone twice a week and the aromasin 12.5mg eod. Let that ride out for at least 3 weeks. Be consistent and put a reminder in your calendar - same time everyday. That's what I did until it became a routine.

Zigg