Please analyze the SH!T out of this bloodword

[mrolson]

Since my other thread got a bit of topic and since now i've finally got my bloodwork back, I thought I would just make a new thread for the sole purpose of you guys being able to analyze it and tell me that everything I do is wrong.

I did this bloodwork because I wanted to make sure that the testosterone cypionate I am currently using is the real deal and also because to make sure that there is nothing seriously wrong with my physically.

So, here it is. Analyze the hell out of it please.

I have been on the cypionate for about 10 days, 200mg eod and I was under the impression that my test should be A LOT higer.

Please guys, have a look!!!

 

[DylanGemelli]

this is one of the worst panels ive ever seen... it takes hours to analyze this because there's so many problems... what in the world were you doing before this cycle? 10 days on a long estered test... what in the world do you expect? why are you pinning it every other day? that makes NO SENSE whatsoever... what were you doing before this man? don't say nothing either because your values don't get this fucked up if you were doing nothing... its not possible... so please don't insult anyone by saying otherwise...

 

[cmb5017]

Smoked a lil crack, so what?

 

[ziggzigg]

Mono, neut, white blood cells. Looks like you are fighting an infection... did you get your STDs checked?

Sounds like you have some dirty supplements if stds come back clean

 

[Taurus]

WBC high, super high estradiol.

 

[RickRock]

Bro, you didn't wait enough to get bloods done. 10 days on a long Ester is nothing. It needs time to reach concentration in your bloodstream.

However your estrogen is elevated quite a bit already. Are you on an AI? If so what dose? At the rate you are going you might have problems if it rises more


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[mrolson]

Thanks for the replies guys!

this is one of the worst panels ive ever seen... it takes hours to analyze this because there's so many problems... what in the world were you doing before this cycle? 10 days on a long estered test... what in the world do you expect? why are you pinning it every other day? that makes NO SENSE whatsoever... what were you doing before this man? don't say nothing either because your values don't get this fucked up if you were doing nothing... its not possible... so please don't insult anyone by saying otherwise...

Before this I did 400mg test.E e4d together with 100mg masteron e2d. I did that for about 2 months. Stopped doing it, took my nebido about 2 weeks ago and was thinking about taking a 4 week break and start with something else after that. Preferably something newbie friendly like anavar or turinabol. I cant afford real anavar and turinabol is impossible to get in China so I decided to just start up on the test again, but to make sure that I get REAL test (not the easiest thing as an outsider in a country most famous for fake products).
So I started with cypionate about 10 days ago. Though that instead of doing 400mg e4d I would try 200mg e2d and see if it'd do any difference. Thats where I am today. But is my panel really "THE WORST YOU EVER SEEN"? Sounds like you might be exaggerating a tad.

Cholesterol looks fucked, estrogen super high, dude.

Wtf.

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Mono, neut, white blood cells. Looks like you are fighting an infection... did you get your STDs checked?

Sounds like you have some dirty supplements if stds come back clean

I had sore throat on the day of the test so I am pretty sure thats why.

Bro, you didn't wait enough to get bloods done. 10 days on a long Ester is nothing. It needs time to reach concentration in your bloodstream.

However your estrogen is elevated quite a bit already. Are you on an AI? If so what dose? At the rate you are going you might have problems if it rises more


(PM me for a price list for Biotech Labs and 10% discount)

I have never taken an AI. I was under the impression that you should NEVER touch AI's if you did not have serious signs of gyno etc.

I have nolvadex 20mg (like 200 tablets) at home and clomiphene 50mg (only got 10 capsules of those though). Should I start taking either or both? How much and how often?

Thanks!

 

[joonp]

Kids these days just love to jump into the deep end before learning to swim...smdh

 

[mrolson]

Kids these days just love to jump into the deep end before learning to swim...smdh

I bet 90% of all the veterans did the exact same thing when they were starting out. This is how you learn.

Now, like I said, I have nolvadex 20mg (like 200 tablets) at home and clomiphene 50mg (only got 10 capsules of those though). Should I start taking either or both? How much and how often?

 

[TX TERROR]

Ya..... Ur fucked. Idk where to even begin at this point.


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[joonp]

I bet 90% of all the veterans did the exact same thing when they were starting out. This is how you learn.

Now, like I said, I have nolvadex 20mg (like 200 tablets) at home and clomiphene 50mg (only got 10 capsules of those though). Should I start taking either or both? How much and how often?

Perhaps but i spent months doing research before starting. You do realize that you are doing things that will have life long consequences if not done correctly. Anyways clomid and nolva will fo nothing for your estro. Get some aromasin asap it is best for high estro

 

[ziggzigg]

Clomid is a SERM and blocks estrogen at some spots and helps with post cycle therapy (pct). Aromasin is an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and lowers estorgen (by lowering conversion)

Because your estrogen is high joonp is correct. You need to lower your estrogen and Aromasin is your best bet. Clomid blocks estrogen which is not the same thing as lowering it.

 

[Dirt]

Train wreck, the proper research would of given you all the appropriate answers before you began this half ass attempt at a cycle or multiple cycles from what it sounds like

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[ziggzigg]

I'm not sure if its a side effect of what you are on... but your CK and hsCRP levels are through the roof

Creatine kinase (CK) 1268 (26-174)

High risk of Heart Attack and brain damange


High-sensitivity CRP (hsCRP) 85.7 (0-3)

High risk for Cardiovascular disease

 

[mrolson]

Perhaps but i spent months doing research before starting. You do realize that you are doing things that will have life long consequences if not done correctly. Anyways clomid and nolva will fo nothing for your estro. Get some aromasin asap it is best for high estro

Thanks man! At least you are mature and experienced enough to tell that being helpful does a hell of a lot more than pointing out obvious mistakes and kicking someone thats already lying down (not mentioning any names). Why these individuals bother posting at all is a true mystery. Maybe it makes them feel better about themselves somehow.

I have spent months reading about this too, but the thing is, who do you trust? This seems like a serious board with serious people, but does that mean that I should trust everyone here? The problem is not doing research, the problem is figuring out what research is truth and whats BS.

I have no signs of high estrogen and would never have known about it if I had not done that bloodtest. Should I still have been taking an AI? A lot of people would say no as AI's comes with side effects too thus should only be taken when needed.

So besides aromasin, is there anything else I will need?

 

[ziggzigg]

Can you give us a list of all supplements you are on... all the way down to fish oil

 

[RickRock]

Thanks for the replies guys!


Before this I did 400mg test.E e4d together with 100mg masteron e2d. I did that for about 2 months. Stopped doing it, took my nebido about 2 weeks ago and was thinking about taking a 4 week break and start with something else after that. Preferably something newbie friendly like anavar or turinabol. I cant afford real anavar and turinabol is impossible to get in China so I decided to just start up on the test again, but to make sure that I get REAL test (not the easiest thing as an outsider in a country most famous for fake products).
So I started with cypionate about 10 days ago. Though that instead of doing 400mg e4d I would try 200mg e2d and see if it'd do any difference. Thats where I am today. But is my panel really "THE WORST YOU EVER SEEN"? Sounds like you might be exaggerating a tad.







I had sore throat on the day of the test so I am pretty sure thats why.



I have never taken an AI. I was under the impression that you should NEVER touch AI's if you did not have serious signs of gyno etc.

I have nolvadex 20mg (like 200 tablets) at home and clomiphene 50mg (only got 10 capsules of those though). Should I start taking either or both? How much and how often?

Thanks!

Neither Clomid or Nolva lowers estrogen, so you need something that does....an Aromatose inhibitor, preferably aromasin.

You were given false information about not using an AI on cycle. That leads to very bad problems which you are well on your way to. You need to use aromasin from day one of the cycle. 12.5mg EOD is a good dose to use.

You can get good legit aromasin from www.sarmsx.com and I suggest you get that ASAP to run before things get worse.....and they will if you stay on test


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[RickRock]

I would also like to know what pct you have lined up for after the cycle. That is extremely important to have right for proper recovery. Here is EXACTLY what you should run after your cycle is complete

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/platinum-pct-stack

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK-2866 25mg ED
GW 20mg ED



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[mrolson]

I would also like to know what pct you have lined up for after the cycle. That is extremely important to have right for proper recovery. Here is EXACTLY what you should run after your cycle is complete

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/platinum-pct-stack

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK-2866 25mg ED
GW 20mg ED



(PM me for a price list for Biotech Labs and 10% discount)

Thanks man! I will get aromasin first thing tomorrow. How much should I put the dosage at? 25mg ed? For how long? (shits expensive though :/) Is there anything cheaper that you could use instead?

About what you said about PCT. Thats another thing that billions of "pro's" on other forums have told me is completely useless since I am on TRT. Should I still do a pct although my testo levels will be "normal" because of the Nebido?

 

[ziggzigg]

12.5 EOD - it has a 72 hour half life

There are other sources... just poke around. If you need it ASAP then go local. If you can wait 5 days for it then Pharma Lady has a decent price