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Age: 45
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 180
Body fat: 12%
Years of training: Since 14 years old, with a few multi year breaks. Currently on a 6 year streak.
Complete cycle history (compounds, doses, lengths of time, when they were run): AAS - none, SARMs see below.
PCT for each cycle: n/a
Goals - healing, strength, muscle gain, fitness
Supplements (if any) - whey, weight gainer, creatine, multi, pre-workout
General idea of nutrition (any food allergies???) - no allergies, my diet - veg & fruit with every meal, after that I concentrate on meat, eggs, whole milk - if its got protein, fat and calories, I'm in.
Any other relevant info (injuries, surgeries you've had, etc.) - just the usual wear and tear on the joints

A little background - last August my elbow started acting up. Over the course of a few weeks it just got worse and worse. Did the anti-inflamatories, rest and ice with not much improvement. By October, I'm not even able to work around it as it hurts like hell just to bend my arm. This is when I started my research into possibly using AAS to help heal it. That looked like a dead end, but lead me to discover SARMs. I took a month and a half off the gym, during which I went from 190 to 170 lbs :(

Decided to give MK-2866 a shot after reading about the healing abilities and Dylan Gemmelli's videos on the product.

Dipped my toes in the water with a 4 week run. I started 3.5 weeks ago - 25mg daily, last day will be this Sunday.

The results have been, to me, astonishing. One week in my elbow pain was starting to subside, to the point where it's 95% pain free right now. By the end of week 2 I'd put 10 lbs on, which is where I've stayed. Strength increases have been steady and I'm getting more defined.

Losing fat and gaining muscle at the same time - WTF kinda voodoo shit is this? Now, I know I'm rebuilding, but this is faster than any rebuild in the past. My work capacity is far beyond anything I've experience before. At the end of my workouts I feel like I could go on for another hour. It's crazy.


.....and this is where my questions start....

My plan is to run DAA for two weeks starting this weekend, followed by 2 weeks off anything, then starting another SARMs cycle. Am I way off base with this?

For follow up cycles, would repeating what I've done now be a legit approach - 4 weeks on, 2 weeks DAA, 2 weeks off, repeat? I like the idea of short cycles even if I'm leaving some gains on the table, just to be on the safe side. Am I out to lunch here? Would I be better off running a longer cycle?

Would it be worth alternating cycles between MK-2866 and something stronger like LGD-4033 to build a bit more mass or is that a stupid idea? Can these two SARMs be effectively stacked? Would a 5mg/day addition of LGD to my MK cycle make any difference at all?

Is a 4 week cycle of LGD a waste of time or would I still see some benefit? Is a PCT required for a low dose, low duration cycle?


And finally, a thank you to the forum owner, Dylan, without seeing your vids I never would have known about MK-2866. I'm absolutely blown away by this stuff.
 
We have the technology, we can rebuild him....

This is what a little research can do...I'll let Dylan or Rick comment on the SARMS as I am not an expert....but have you had your testosterone checked recently?

IMO it's advisable to check when we get into our 40's.

I stand up next to a mountain
And I chop it down with the edge of my hand
 
No, I haven't had test levels checked, but I'll speak to my doctor about that next time I see him. I don't think it's an issue at this point, but it doesn't hurt to check.
 
Age: 45
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 180
Body fat: 12%
Years of training: Since 14 years old, with a few multi year breaks. Currently on a 6 year streak.
Complete cycle history (compounds, doses, lengths of time, when they were run): AAS - none, SARMs see below.
PCT for each cycle: n/a
Goals - healing, strength, muscle gain, fitness
Supplements (if any) - whey, weight gainer, creatine, multi, pre-workout
General idea of nutrition (any food allergies???) - no allergies, my diet - veg & fruit with every meal, after that I concentrate on meat, eggs, whole milk - if its got protein, fat and calories, I'm in.
Any other relevant info (injuries, surgeries you've had, etc.) - just the usual wear and tear on the joints

A little background - last August my elbow started acting up. Over the course of a few weeks it just got worse and worse. Did the anti-inflamatories, rest and ice with not much improvement. By October, I'm not even able to work around it as it hurts like hell just to bend my arm. This is when I started my research into possibly using AAS to help heal it. That looked like a dead end, but lead me to discover SARMs. I took a month and a half off the gym, during which I went from 190 to 170 lbs :(

Decided to give MK-2866 a shot after reading about the healing abilities and Dylan Gemmelli's videos on the product.

Dipped my toes in the water with a 4 week run. I started 3.5 weeks ago - 25mg daily, last day will be this Sunday.

The results have been, to me, astonishing. One week in my elbow pain was starting to subside, to the point where it's 95% pain free right now. By the end of week 2 I'd put 10 lbs on, which is where I've stayed. Strength increases have been steady and I'm getting more defined.

Losing fat and gaining muscle at the same time - WTF kinda voodoo shit is this? Now, I know I'm rebuilding, but this is faster than any rebuild in the past. My work capacity is far beyond anything I've experience before. At the end of my workouts I feel like I could go on for another hour. It's crazy.


.....and this is where my questions start....

My plan is to run DAA for two weeks starting this weekend, followed by 2 weeks off anything, then starting another SARMs cycle. Am I way off base with this?

For follow up cycles, would repeating what I've done now be a legit approach - 4 weeks on, 2 weeks DAA, 2 weeks off, repeat? I like the idea of short cycles even if I'm leaving some gains on the table, just to be on the safe side. Am I out to lunch here? Would I be better off running a longer cycle?

Would it be worth alternating cycles between MK-2866 and something stronger like LGD-4033 to build a bit more mass or is that a stupid idea? Can these two SARMs be effectively stacked? Would a 5mg/day addition of LGD to my MK cycle make any difference at all?

Is a 4 week cycle of LGD a waste of time or would I still see some benefit? Is a PCT required for a low dose, low duration cycle?


And finally, a thank you to the forum owner, Dylan, without seeing your vids I never would have known about MK-2866. I'm absolutely blown away by this stuff.

Ok bro, there are a few big problems here. First of all why are you running MK-2866 only 4 weeks? It just starts working well at 4 weeks, and you are cutting yourself short ending it there. You really need to run it a full 12 weeks to get the full benefit.

You also don't just run DAA for a couple weeks and jump back on it. You need to run a mini pct afterwards. DAA is typically used the last 3-4 weeks of a cycle before pct

LGD can definitely be stacked with MK-2866 for enhanced gains and healing benefits. They are perfect together.

Protocol for he two and pct looks like this

1-12 LGD 10mg per day dosed in the am
1-12 MK-2866 25mg per day dosed in the am


PCT

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/sarms-mini-pct-stack-1

clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day
 
Age: 45
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 180
Body fat: 12%
Years of training: Since 14 years old, with a few multi year breaks. Currently on a 6 year streak.
Complete cycle history (compounds, doses, lengths of time, when they were run): AAS - none, SARMs see below.
PCT for each cycle: n/a
Goals - healing, strength, muscle gain, fitness
Supplements (if any) - whey, weight gainer, creatine, multi, pre-workout
General idea of nutrition (any food allergies???) - no allergies, my diet - veg & fruit with every meal, after that I concentrate on meat, eggs, whole milk - if its got protein, fat and calories, I'm in.
Any other relevant info (injuries, surgeries you've had, etc.) - just the usual wear and tear on the joints

A little background - last August my elbow started acting up. Over the course of a few weeks it just got worse and worse. Did the anti-inflamatories, rest and ice with not much improvement. By October, I'm not even able to work around it as it hurts like hell just to bend my arm. This is when I started my research into possibly using AAS to help heal it. That looked like a dead end, but lead me to discover SARMs. I took a month and a half off the gym, during which I went from 190 to 170 lbs :(

Decided to give MK-2866 a shot after reading about the healing abilities and Dylan Gemmelli's videos on the product.

Dipped my toes in the water with a 4 week run. I started 3.5 weeks ago - 25mg daily, last day will be this Sunday.

The results have been, to me, astonishing. One week in my elbow pain was starting to subside, to the point where it's 95% pain free right now. By the end of week 2 I'd put 10 lbs on, which is where I've stayed. Strength increases have been steady and I'm getting more defined.

Losing fat and gaining muscle at the same time - WTF kinda voodoo shit is this? Now, I know I'm rebuilding, but this is faster than any rebuild in the past. My work capacity is far beyond anything I've experience before. At the end of my workouts I feel like I could go on for another hour. It's crazy.


.....and this is where my questions start....

My plan is to run DAA for two weeks starting this weekend, followed by 2 weeks off anything, then starting another SARMs cycle. Am I way off base with this?

For follow up cycles, would repeating what I've done now be a legit approach - 4 weeks on, 2 weeks DAA, 2 weeks off, repeat? I like the idea of short cycles even if I'm leaving some gains on the table, just to be on the safe side. Am I out to lunch here? Would I be better off running a longer cycle?

Would it be worth alternating cycles between MK-2866 and something stronger like LGD-4033 to build a bit more mass or is that a stupid idea? Can these two SARMs be effectively stacked? Would a 5mg/day addition of LGD to my MK cycle make any difference at all?

Is a 4 week cycle of LGD a waste of time or would I still see some benefit? Is a PCT required for a low dose, low duration cycle?


And finally, a thank you to the forum owner, Dylan, without seeing your vids I never would have known about MK-2866. I'm absolutely blown away by this stuff.
hey bro, iim happy to help you here... a few things... 1. where did you get your sarms? 2. 4 week cycle are a COMPLETE waste of time and money... i cannot let you do that... dont throw time and money away... you see the capabilities but you are not even letting it come close to full potential bro... they dont even peak until week 8... these are 12 week cycles... its not just a money investment, its a mental and physical and TIME investment as well... so when i use that term, understand its a cumulative thing... MK2866 and LGD stack beautifully together... if you want to build more mass then you absolutely want lgd... it provides the most size of any sarm... your plan is HORRID and in no way would i nor could i recommend that... NOW, if you want to do this right, you should stack them both and run a 12 week cycle... what you are doing now is going to leave you disappointed for a MULTITUDE of reasons...
 
hey bro, iim happy to help you here... a few things... 1. where did you get your sarms? 2. 4 week cycle are a COMPLETE waste of time and money... i cannot let you do that... dont throw time and money away... you see the capabilities but you are not even letting it come close to full potential bro... they dont even peak until week 8... these are 12 week cycles... its not just a money investment, its a mental and physical and TIME investment as well... so when i use that term, understand its a cumulative thing... MK2866 and LGD stack beautifully together... if you want to build more mass then you absolutely want lgd... it provides the most size of any sarm... your plan is HORRID and in no way would i nor could i recommend that... NOW, if you want to do this right, you should stack them both and run a 12 week cycle... what you are doing now is going to leave you disappointed for a MULTITUDE of reasons...

Hey Dylan,

SARMs were from neobolics.


I'm here to learn so bear with me....

The idea for 4-week cycle came from https://www.isarms.com/ostarine-mk-2866:

"ostarine is non-suppressive when used for 4 weeks or less at proper dosages, so no PCT is necessary. Nevertheless, those who choose to run higher dosages, and for longer periods of time, should run a PCT."

Is this not true?

I get it, you are advising 12 week cycles to maximize results, not gonna argue that.

This was my first run on anything stronger than whey and creatine, hence the trepidation and short run - I was trying to play it safe. If there is suppression after 4 weeks at 25mg/day that would require a PCT, then that changes how I would have approached this.
 
Hey Dylan,

SARMs were from neobolics.


I'm here to learn so bear with me....

The idea for 4-week cycle came from https://www.isarms.com/ostarine-mk-2866:

"ostarine is non-suppressive when used for 4 weeks or less at proper dosages, so no PCT is necessary. Nevertheless, those who choose to run higher dosages, and for longer periods of time, should run a PCT."

Is this not true?

I get it, you are advising 12 week cycles to maximize results, not gonna argue that.

This was my first run on anything stronger than whey and creatine, hence the trepidation and short run - I was trying to play it safe. If there is suppression after 4 weeks at 25mg/day that would require a PCT, then that changes how I would have approached this.
1. you do not have real sarms whatsoever so quality is a major issue here... 2. that is an article explaining how suppression occurs with use, it is not advocating that type of cycle whatsoever... i think i know since i wrote the articles bro... if you want a non suppressive cycle then you have three options to pick from... gw501516, sr9009 and mk677... the suppression you get from other sarms is MINIMAL at best but you still need a mini pct anytime suppression is occurring...
 
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