keto diet (extreme fat loss) + GW ,but one DILEMMA !

[Dima999]

yep sure do!

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you lost me on this one,what happened ? )

 

[KODA24]

you lost me on this one,what happened ? )

Go back a page, Dylan saying "i lost a few brain cells in that one fuck me" then his response to me after that. Good stuff! Lmao

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[RickRock]

As far as keto and protien goes and hear comes the arguement. But the ketogenic diet made popular by atkins was targeted in the begging and most literature still is at sedintary obeise individuals . UNUSED PROTIEN will convertert to glucose and have the possibility of stopping ketosis . Now someone doing intemse resistance training and cardio daily will have a higher carb number for staying in ketosis also a bodybuilder on anabolic steroids is going too be using up that gram per lb easily so even if a little of it is converted too glucose you burn that up so fast training its rediculous . remeber those guidlines were meant for some fat fuck that doesnt get off his couch

Exactly bro. Well said. The same principles cannot be applied to resistance trained bodybuilders on steroids,mthat will have higher nitrogen retention

 

[SpikedEggnog]

75 is not keto. that s LCHF. Salt is not the problem, actually the only problem with the real keto diet is that we are too much scared of eating animal fat. Please note that we are scared to eat enough salt 2, and i mean by ”salt” not that white shit from the promo local grocery next to the Captain America. WE need natural vitamins and minerals so we not just replace the lost water that got flushed with electrolytes but to add some more in the top of that . A good and healty salt is sea salt. Or go online and find some 30 somthing salts that you can t find them naturally in any type of modern food. I forgot the details hope im not wrong thou, if i am ,sorry ,look for it. And ...the next problem....Not enough fibers. And i m not talking about fruits. Yes you can get some piece of your furniture, that s fiber and no calories. But it is otpimal ?? No. Fibers has no taste. I hear no one eating cabbage on this diet. Or salad. No dressing. Or raw brocolli. Once you boile those fibers to ”get the taste” you have there some sugar. And i was talking from the beggining of KETO. Not LCHF and not Paleo. Even thou those 2 are... the shit ! Back to fruits. Me for example once I got into a piece of fruit I tend to eat more and some fucking more till I, for sure get over 35-40 grams of carbs at once to 400grams. ”yes but that s fruits ! its healty ” Sure it is. Nobody can argue about that. 1 kilo of green apples will allways beat the fuck out of 1 kilo of pizza -meatfeast- stuffed crusted with pp and garlic. I m not saying that you should do meth and cock to get rid of those carbs cravings but as long you are going to suffer for a little while... i don t know what to say, try to see the results ,the glory beyond your present tears, or just... man the fuck up. 100 years ago our grand grand fathers used to have 50% more testosterone and no it s not about the chemicals 100%. It s about carbs folks! they didn t have all of those 1000 types of pasta and 40 types of pizza and pancakes at breafast and #realfood before going to the gym (also natty). Carbs are the biggest bogus ,nowdays, at all the times... the biggest drug. There is no such drug as modern food. Yes ”they ”put those chemicals into everyfuckingthing, meat too. But you should just stay the fuck away from carbs. Try this shit for at least 14 days. Just try it. Get the minimum supplements you can put your hands on, the cheapest multivitamins&minerals. You gotta be a fucking zen to eat moderate carbs nowdays, unless you take drugs. Sorry. This is the truth. Its sucks. If you re willing to get into #KETO you should at least know what Ketosis is to not be that mad bro saying everywhere ”tried keto but it sucks !”



PS. Don t take it personal, sorry for my blamed language and poor english qualitty.

75 IS keto. it depends on the person. in the case of a bodybuilder who lifts extremely heavy and is 255 lbs at 5'9" then thats Keto. 75 is bare minimum to sustain your bodily functions. and keep in mind i never said what the 75 is. it could be all vegetables or all pop tarts. i never said.

sodium is a huge problem. KETO diet is very easy to overconsume Sodium because people lean towards more meats and cheese and eggs. high sodium.
again the other problem with keto is too much Fat. eating 200g of saturated fat is not good. and i also wouldnt want 300g or more of fats per day.

im done talking about Keto. i already said it is not for everyone. certain people respond well to it. for most people its not good. and its also trash for trying to gain lean muscle. for cutting thats a different story. although i still wouldnt cut on Keto for myself personally.

 

[SdBronco]

Sorry but unless you are eating like 600g+ of protein a day there is no way it is dropping you out of ketosis. The unused protein portion of the typical keto dieter would be non existent. Unused protein can be converted into glucose yes but in an extremely low carb, moderately high protein and high fat diet that is still within a caloric deficit of some sort isn't going to have room for extra protein to be converted. If you were you'd definitely have to eat low fats and raise your protein significantly.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Sorry but unless you are eating like 600g+ of protein a day there is no way it is dropping you out of ketosis. The unused protein portion of the typical keto dieter would be non existent. Unused protein can be converted into glucose yes but in an extremely low carb, moderately high protein and high fat diet that is still within a caloric deficit of some sort isn't going to have room for extra protein to be converted. If you were you'd definitely have to eat low fats and raise your protein significantly.

i couldnt agree more... very insightful and well said bro

 

[DylanGemelli]

75 IS keto. it depends on the person. in the case of a bodybuilder who lifts extremely heavy and is 255 lbs at 5'9" then thats Keto. 75 is bare minimum to sustain your bodily functions. and keep in mind i never said what the 75 is. it could be all vegetables or all pop tarts. i never said.

sodium is a huge problem. KETO diet is very easy to overconsume Sodium because people lean towards more meats and cheese and eggs. high sodium.
again the other problem with keto is too much Fat. eating 200g of saturated fat is not good. and i also wouldnt want 300g or more of fats per day.

im done talking about Keto. i already said it is not for everyone. certain people respond well to it. for most people its not good. and its also trash for trying to gain lean muscle. for cutting thats a different story. although i still wouldnt cut on Keto for myself personally.

perfectly said brother... i dont blame you on not wanting to talk about it.. as you said and i have said many times... its definitely not for everyone and personally, its not something i recommend.. to each their own and if it works for you, great but as we said, its not for everybody and i definitely fall into that category because i have always felt it to be unsustainable and ridiculous....

 

[Dima999]

fuck keto then. whats the best diet as a lifestyle for a human and male too?

 

[DylanGemelli]

fuck keto then. whats the best diet as a lifestyle for a human and male too?

i dont do "cookie cutter" diets... i design them specifically person to person.. the best diet is what FITS YOUR NEEDS, WANTS and GOALS...

 

[SpikedEggnog]

fuck keto then. whats the best diet as a lifestyle for a human and male too?

the best diet is one that helps you feel better and meet your fitness goals

 

[SpikedEggnog]

perfectly said brother... i dont blame you on not wanting to talk about it.. as you said and i have said many times... its definitely not for everyone and personally, its not something i recommend.. to each their own and if it works for you, great but as we said, its not for everybody and i definitely fall into that category because i have always felt it to be unsustainable and ridiculous....

definitely bro. the only thing I have come close to doing is a cyclic ketogenic diet and that was ONLY for the purpose of tightening up. but like you said I don't feel its sustainable. lethargy, strength loss, etc.
id much prefer cycling a low carb high carb. 6 days low carb then one high carb day. it works better for me and gives me sick pumps at the same time cutting bodyfat

 

[Dima999]

hahahaha see you waht you did there.... Would be a nice approach tho the ”steak and eggs” by ol” Vince. But he adviced 5 days. Yeah, 6 days LCHF or medium everything and low carb then a cheat day just for carbs with fats... nice.


What would be more nice than having Lazar s 2014 body,being ripped as Dylan (2015?), having Lance s stamina, and looking as Brad (P) ? And smart as Satan.

Lol, just kidding.

 

[Dima999]

today i blasted the crap out of some modulators and gw. I think i should stay on Aicar but that shit is so expensive. I would fucking want to start a god damn company to sell those esspecially i have sick ideas, i ve been teached by the most fked up dudes and i helped many online gurus ... lol, but not in this shit country that i am right now, even this is the perfect groud. Virgin.

 

[Dima999]

i m also in music industry for movies soundtracks by far i ve done like 6 comercials . I would blast this. Still. I would be in the keto diet, this shit gives you more strange ideas than anything else.