help for the new guy haha

[mzerv00]

Hey guys,

I'm new here, and I need some advice / opinions that hopefully you all can help me with. I'll admit that I've irresponsibly taken gear in the past without proper OCT/PCT therapy. I'm looking to do it right this time and need some advice on OCT/PCT. Here's what I'm going to run...

Tbol 40mg (per day) - 8 weeks
Test E 500mg (per week) - 12 weeks
Deca 400mg (per week) - 12 weeks

So, in the past I hooked up with a Dr. that was giving me Test P 200 mg (per week), injectable aminos, Anastrozole EOD, and HCG (I can't remember the dosage). I wasn't seeing the results that I did when I was (irresponsibly) taking some gear in the past. I'm not sure if it was the dosage, diet, age, or reason why things didn't work out, but I'm here now and looking to move forward. Any suggestions as to what I should do would be much appreciated!

Age - 36
Height - 6-0
Weight - 190lbs
Body fat % - Not sure, but pretty lean.
Years of training - 6-7 years
Complete cycle history
PCT for each cycle
Goals - 10-15lbs of lean muscle
Supplements - some bullshit GNC protein and oral aminos
General idea of nutrition - could stand to learn more. my diet isn't great but not too poor
Any other relevant info - no injuries or allergies

 

[Kael]

reduce tbol to 6 weeks and increase dosage to 50-60 mg also, no aromasin/caber/some protection with oral ? what does your pct look like ?

 

[mzerv00]

I didn't list any OCT /PCT because I'm not sure as to what I should be taking. Simple research through the internet always brings me to different forums where there are many different opinions as to what should be taken. That is what brought me here. I'll order them as soon as I feel like I have the right idea on what to take. I'm not starting the cycle until I get the OCT / PCT, correct.

 

[Kael]

well you need:

1-12 aromasin 12.5 mg e2d
1-12 caber 0.5 e3d
1-6 DGA Organ St https://www.dganutrition.com/product/organ-st/

PCT:
11-14 DGA Post Ct https://www.dganutrition.com/product/post-ct/
15-20
clomid 50/50/50/25/25/25
nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day (only 4 weeks , gets supressive after that)
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[mzerv00]

Thanks for the help, brother

 

[Kael]

no problem

 

[mzerv00]

for the DGA Organ St, how much should I be taking?
For the DGA Post CT, how much should I be taking?

 

[Kael]

run blood work on prolactin / estogen , you may need to adjust aromasin/caber , you may get away with 0.25 caber e3d

 

[Kael]

for the DGA Organ St, how much should I be taking?
For the DGA Post CT, how much should I be taking?

their specific dosages are written there, 7 capsules/day of ST and 5 capsules of CT

 

[Kael]

CT is used to replace HCG btw

 

[DylanGemelli]

here's how you want to run this bro


1-14 test cyp 300 mg week
1-14 deca 350 mg week
1-16 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-14 caber .25 mg e3d
1-6 tbol 60 mg day
1-6 dga organ st https://www.dganutrition.com/product/organ-st/
13-16 dga post ct https://www.dganutrition.com/product/post-ct/

pct 17-22

when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…Organ ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.





clomid 50/50/50/25/25/25
nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod (adjust accordingly)
ORGAN ST https://www.dganutrition.com/cycle-support/organ-st
mk-2866 25 mg day (ONLY 4 WEEKS)
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[mzerv00]

awesome, thanks again bro

 

[DylanGemelli]

anytime bro...