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[the force]

Cool, thats some pretty deep stuff. I just had some biology classes so I actually understand most of it. What changes have you made from their recommendations, and what have the results been?

Hi, so.. I started paying attention to vitamin B especially and D, I got the idea of typical cardio out of my head and started thinking about power lifting even.. as I said earlier I came to this from someone else who is helping me out and he laid out the work out I am using, he is giving me guidance and so HIIT is the cardio, and I am doing like a 3/2 split meaning 3 days weights day off, 2 day weights, day off, I can more into detail another time, but I changed it up from what I was doing which at one point was a full body 3x week, and then back/bis.. chest tris.. shoulders legs.. that was 2 x a week and now its more like each area gets blasted once a week and I am loving it..

I didnt post all that to dazzle anyone but I see what I am sensing as some negativity about it, I mean there is no magic bullet but the time this has saved and the amount of guessing and trial and error that is eliminate is for me worth the price,, idk I was just sharing this experience and hope others can benefit.

 

[the force]

Lol, I'm not even going to attempt to read all that shit, but it sounds like an extensive test. I'd be very curious how they are able to come up with these conclusions as well, since there just isn't enough data out there to support the conclusions. I'm certainly not saying this isn't valuable info. It's just something you never hear about, so I don't know how they can be that extensive just yet from DNA analysis

I guess check out the site, I did it as part of something I bought into and while it may not be conclusive and as literal as some on here want it ot be and are bashing it, lets face its statistical... but it is REAL science, like in a lab as opposed to "Bro science" made on a forum, no matter how you slice it.

 

[the force]

You are point on Rick. Its not necessarily specific. All they are doing is choosing point specific alleles (gene combos, one paternal allele and one maternal allele) that are known to impact certain characteristics. Though our number of genes is debatable, we can be sure that there are more than 15000 but less than 25000. That is still a shit ton of allele combinations. They are not mapping all of them specifically for you, they are just pulling choice ones that COULD possibly influence certain effects in your body. Because most of us are extremely similar in the big picture is how this basic synopsis could prove beneficial to you. That is why I am interested in what changes he has made and more importantly, did he see any benefits.

Im pretty sure I posted the part where they said the whole report was suggestive and not some giant conclusion right? Its probability based.. I only got the test in July or August, but it eliminated the idea of certain cardio and certain kinds of training, got me to be aware of certain nutrients I need to be aware of.. I posted all that just so you can see what its like, its 38 pages..and I have someone helping me out.. so while I cant say I see any benefits per se such as I am more massive, since it is so recent, it has put me on the road to use methods, supplements and so forth that will help me get that much more form my efforts and if I am hitting fewer dead ends and a whole lot of guess work and trial and error are removed, I think that is the point, probably best to see as not what it can do but what it helps you avoid if that makes sense.

 

[the force]

All of that is just bunk theory. Just like people buying into "good genetics" there's no scientific proof. These tests can say you have x amount of fast twitch muscle fibers vs x amount of slow twitch muscle fibers and based on that it's theorized that Ur possibly a better suited runner than a power lifter. But does it mean u can't be a power lifter? No of course not. Also there is no scientific proof whatsoever that a person ends up a successful bb because of good genetics..it's bro science. All science can do at this point is isolated genes and say well u have genes a b and c and that means u can absorb protein better than the man with genes xy and z or you have genes hm and f so u possibly can burn fat faster than Joe who has genes a d and k . Does it mean Shit? No. If a man has a superior chain of DNA compared to another man it doesn't mean Shit. If man A doesn't train right doesn't eat right and doesn't take the right suppliments he will not win. If man B with less superior genes trains hard eats right and takes the right supps he can become a champion..nothing Pisses me off worse than people saying that guy is a champion cause he has good genes. It's a crock of Shit. Can u prove it? No. Can science prove it ? No. People think Arnold has good genes...I do not. Why was Arnold the best in the world? Easy...he worked his fucking ass off and did whatever it took for him to win. Arnold worked out harder than anyone I've ever seen. He ate right. Never skipped a meal never skipped a workout. He would workout in sub zero degree temps where his hand would stick to the bar and rip skin. He would break into the gym just to work out. He did whatever it took to be the best. Determination /ambition that's what makes a champion not genetics. I really wish people would drop the term genes and good genetics out of their vocabulary..it's pseudo science. It's theory. It's on paper. It does not apply in the real world. And that's the facts

Yeah you must be right, and a total scientist.. oh wait.. it suggested looking at Vitamin B and omg .. im taking a look at that, wow so conclusive AMAZING!,, total theory.. and Bro Science at that, since a laboratory is far less scientific than your living room and a chat board....
even it is theory, it is way more sound than some opinion or guessing and making a log.. I got something out of it,, you dont like it? Ok, haters gonna hate.. now I recall why I dotn get on the boards much..
I think you missed the point, and the idea of the discussion I hoped for seems to be non existent.. just drinking all the Hater-Ade in this post.
I think the idea of this makes people uncomfortable, here comes a new era and a time when we are messing with our body biology more than ever in history,, I get why people get uncomfortable.. I remember how hard email was for me.. but now its easy.. I hope you feel better about real science in the future even if it is theory and helps you to avoid certain dead ends, .. that print out is no magic, just a road map of maybes.. so whats with all the hate..
guy,, what is the difference of you and the people who talk about good genetics? Not that I ever said I had anywhere near good genetics..

 

[cmb5017]

Bro. U posted an interesting topic for discussion. And we're openly discussing that topic. No one's hating on u. It's just everyone's opinion and commentary.

 

[the force]

my bad, Im feeling kinda flamed on the topic.. sorry i flamed u back in your post.. damn typing,, makes things hard to interpret sometimes.

Bro. U posted an interesting topic for discussion. And we're openly discussing that topic. No one's hating on u. It's just everyone's opinion and commentary.

 

[the force]

alright,, maybe i just need to get the toxic dysfunction I experienced out of my system from past experiences on other boards.. thanks robo

 

[Bigtack]

I personally think its good stuff Force. It laid out some of your genetic generalities so that you can do some experimenting with them. I believe that science works, so I am interested to see how you progress with the dialing in that you do with your testing results.

 

[the force]

Im so pleased with knowing what to avoid, I personally think THAT is probably the big deal.. im working with same guy for the next 9 or so months, and plan to re up for another year, I liek the way things have been going.

 

[SpikedEggnog]

All of that is just bunk theory. Just like people buying into "good genetics" there's no scientific proof. These tests can say you have x amount of fast twitch muscle fibers vs x amount of slow twitch muscle fibers and based on that it's theorized that Ur possibly a better suited runner than a power lifter. But does it mean u can't be a power lifter? No of course not. Also there is no scientific proof whatsoever that a person ends up a successful bb because of good genetics..it's bro science. All science can do at this point is isolated genes and say well u have genes a b and c and that means u can absorb protein better than the man with genes xy and z or you have genes hm and f so u possibly can burn fat faster than Joe who has genes a d and k . Does it mean Shit? No. If a man has a superior chain of DNA compared to another man it doesn't mean Shit. If man A doesn't train right doesn't eat right and doesn't take the right suppliments he will not win. If man B with less superior genes trains hard eats right and takes the right supps he can become a champion..nothing Pisses me off worse than people saying that guy is a champion cause he has good genes. It's a crock of Shit. Can u prove it? No. Can science prove it ? No. People think Arnold has good genes...I do not. Why was Arnold the best in the world? Easy...he worked his fucking ass off and did whatever it took for him to win. Arnold worked out harder than anyone I've ever seen. He ate right. Never skipped a meal never skipped a workout. He would workout in sub zero degree temps where his hand would stick to the bar and rip skin. He would break into the gym just to work out. He did whatever it took to be the best. Determination /ambition that's what makes a champion not genetics. I really wish people would drop the term genes and good genetics out of their vocabulary..it's pseudo science. It's theory. It's on paper. It does not apply in the real world. And that's the facts

i dont agree with everything you said BUT i do agree that Genetics are thrown in the equation FAR too often. yes they do play a role when it comes to muscular development, attachments, muscle bellies, etc. BUT most people can build stellar physiques if they train and diet hard year round....genetics has become more of an excuse then anything, like saying i have genetically weak calves. Well if your calves are weak then you train them TWICE as hard....

 

[the force]

maybe the term genetics should be banned and we can use something like "statistical potential" the point of it being a DNA test is personal to the person.. this is telling you how to make the MOST of what you already have..

 

[RickRock]

I guess check out the site, I did it as part of something I bought into and while it may not be conclusive and as literal as some on here want it ot be and are bashing it, lets face its statistical... but it is REAL science, like in a lab as opposed to "Bro science" made on a forum, no matter how you slice it.

Ya, I respect it brother if it is as advertised. I don't dispute that at all. It's just new, so like anything I'd like to hear more about it from other users. Their findings could be somewhat debatable as well, but I'm very open minded and hopeful this u still something viable for the future

 

[the force]

yeah, i thought it was kind of more known about.. im amazed no one has heard of this? I think its the type of thing anti aging clinics use,,

 

[MaxxPursuit]

yeah, i thought it was kind of more known about.. im amazed no one has heard of this? I think its the type of thing anti aging clinics use,,

It's new to me too. Never heard of it but it's look like it can be valuable dialing yourself in. Very cool.