Thanks for the great encouragement guys. I'll try to keep progress pics going as I see more definition coming in. Plus I'm probably going to try for a better phone/cam with also better lighting. If i flex i can see striations across my shoulders and chest and Vascularity has greatly increased in my arms, legs and even a bit on my chest but for some reason I look "softer" than i actually am in the pictures. Again, i'll try better lighting next time. I know that GW and SR increases metabolism at a great rate and that's key when trying to cut down but do they do anything for joints because i swear, my right shoulder and my right Knee always bothered me but since taking these, I feel no more aching which is phenomenal. Another thing I was to point out and keep it honest is that few days ago i fucked up on my diet and ate a ton however when i woke up, i looked even more defined and weighed less on the scale. i usually wake up looking/feeling bloated. On Friday, I went to a party and i ended up drinking more than i should have, I normally wake up puffy face/eyes and just shitty in general but I woke up like a new man lol I swear its either the GW or SR making this happen but im not sure which one. From my personal experience so far, This is pretty incredible.