EQ vs TREN ?? WTF

[drb_iac]

Now here are two studies. The first is on EQ telling you how bad it is and the second on Tren telling you how good it is. WTF?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24097356

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25554582

 

[cmb5017]

Now here are two studies. The first is on EQ telling you how bad it is and the second on Tren telling you how good it is. WTF?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24097356

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25554582

I didnt do the math...but it looked like extremely high doses

 

[RickRock]

Now here are two studies. The first is on EQ telling you how bad it is and the second on Tren telling you how good it is. WTF?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24097356

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25554582

I'm glad you posted this because it is a perfect example of how people can take studies out of context. Most studies are worthless unless you really look into them deep and find all the details. A lot has to do with doses and durations used, as well as specific conditions. With the way studies are performed things could be minupulated to make virtually anything look good or bad depending on how they setup that study. This is why I don't put a lot of stock into studies these days. Rarely do you find one that uses the right conditions and dosages that are relevant for human use

 

[drb_iac]

One of the puzzling things here is why use rats and rabbits when there are millions of men AND women to study? They could do an 8-12 week cycle and do ultrasounds and blood work every week and then have a real study instead of saying how a rabbit reacts is how a human reacts. You know we say all the time that aas effect different people in different ways...so how do you then jump to what happens in rabbits also happens in humans?

 

[RickRock]

One of the puzzling things here is why use rats and rabbits when there are millions of men AND women to study? They could do an 8-12 week cycle and do ultrasounds and blood work every week and then have a real study instead of saying how a rabbit reacts is how a human reacts. You know we say all the time that aas effect different people in different ways...so how do you then jump to what happens in rabbits also happens in humans?

I guess the real answer to that is because they are both veterinary grade drugs, and never have been intended for human use

 

[drb_iac]

One of the puzzling things here is why use rats and rabbits when there are millions of men AND women to study? They could do an 8-12 week cycle and do ultrasounds and blood work every week and then have a real study instead of saying how a rabbit reacts is how a human reacts. You know we say all the time that aas effect different people in different ways...so how do you then jump to what happens in rabbits also happens in humans?

I guess the real answer to that is because they are both veterinary grade drugs, and never have been intended for human use

That is a good point but both studies then go on and transfer opinions to human use. So if their final conclusion is aimed at humans then use humans in the study. I just checked the EQ study and it was done in friggin Egypt. Yep...I am sure those docs know all about it.

 

[RickRock]

[quote="drb_iac":3tyzrrcn]One of the puzzling things here is why use rats and rabbits when there are millions of men AND women to study? They could do an 8-12 week cycle and do ultrasounds and blood work every week and then have a real study instead of saying how a rabbit reacts is how a human reacts. You know we say all the time that aas effect different people in different ways...so how do you then jump to what happens in rabbits also happens in humans?

I guess the real answer to that is because they are both veterinary grade drugs, and never have been intended for human use

That is a good point but both studies then go on and transfer opinions to human use. So if their final conclusion is aimed at humans then use humans in the study. I just checked the EQ study and it was done in friggin Egypt. Yep...I am sure those docs know all about it.[/quote:3tyzrrcn]

Yes I definitely agree with you there brother.

 

[cmb5017]

Yea I agree...monkeys should b used because its our closet genetic match...not rodents

 

[SpikedEggnog]

One of the puzzling things here is why use rats and rabbits when there are millions of men AND women to study? They could do an 8-12 week cycle and do ultrasounds and blood work every week and then have a real study instead of saying how a rabbit reacts is how a human reacts. You know we say all the time that aas effect different people in different ways...so how do you then jump to what happens in rabbits also happens in humans?

I'll tell you why they use rabbits and rats - it's because of their worldview, they have no faith, they don't believe we were created by Almighty as humans and animals were created too, they believe we evolved from primordial soup billions of years ago, so naturally they think we came from rats and rabbits down the evolutionary tree. When in reality animals and humans are not related except in design similarities, we did not evolve from apes man, although some people act more like apes then others..

 

[JackSteel]

One of the puzzling things here is why use rats and rabbits when there are millions of men AND women to study? They could do an 8-12 week cycle and do ultrasounds and blood work every week and then have a real study instead of saying how a rabbit reacts is how a human reacts. You know we say all the time that aas effect different people in different ways...so how do you then jump to what happens in rabbits also happens in humans?

I guess the real answer to that is because they are both veterinary grade drugs, and never have been intended for human use

That is a good point but both studies then go on and transfer opinions to human use. So if their final conclusion is aimed at humans then use humans in the study. I just checked the EQ study and it was done in friggin Egypt. Yep...I am sure those docs know all about it.

It's likely not approved to administer to humans, but I agree.


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[JackSteel]

Yea I agree...monkeys should b used because its our closet genetic match...not rodents

Actually I think pigs are, aren't they?


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[RickRock]

Yea I agree...monkeys should b used because its our closet genetic match...not rodents

Actually I think pigs are, aren't they?


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That applies to cops only though....bwahahahahaha!

 

[JackSteel]

Yea I agree...monkeys should b used because its our closet genetic match...not rodents

Actually I think pigs are, aren't they?


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That applies to cops only though....bwahahahahaha!

Lmao! I would say cops are our closest relatives. [FACE WITH TEARS OF JOY]


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[JackSteel]

Yea I agree...monkeys should b used because its our closet genetic match...not rodents

Actually I think pigs are, aren't they?


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That applies to cops only though....bwahahahahaha!

Yeah you're right. That's outdated info.

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[cmb5017]

Yea I agree...monkeys should b used because its our closet genetic match...not rodents

Actually I think pigs are, aren't they?


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That applies to cops only though....bwahahahahaha!

Yeah you're right. That's outdated info.

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Dont let them Darwinists see that lol

 

[cmb5017]

One of the puzzling things here is why use rats and rabbits when there are millions of men AND women to study? They could do an 8-12 week cycle and do ultrasounds and blood work every week and then have a real study instead of saying how a rabbit reacts is how a human reacts. You know we say all the time that aas effect different people in different ways...so how do you then jump to what happens in rabbits also happens in humans?

I'll tell you why they use rabbits and rats - it's because of their worldview, they have no faith, they don't believe we were created by Almighty as humans and animals were created too, they believe we evolved from primordial soup billions of years ago, so naturally they think we came from rats and rabbits down the evolutionary tree. When in reality animals and humans are not related except in design similarities, we did not evolve from apes man, although some people act more like apes then others..

Amen brother

 

[SpikedEggnog]

Yea I agree...monkeys should b used because its our closet genetic match...not rodents

Actually I think pigs are, aren't they?


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That applies to cops only though....bwahahahahaha!

Lol cops..also besides lean meat, the next closest thing to eat for Bodybuilding is Donuts..they are like little anabolic circles

 

[drb_iac]

looks like the tren dose was like me using 180mg trenA every day. Must have been some bad ass rats!

 

[TheSVPdeal]

One of the puzzling things here is why use rats and rabbits when there are millions of men AND women to study? They could do an 8-12 week cycle and do ultrasounds and blood work every week and then have a real study instead of saying how a rabbit reacts is how a human reacts. You know we say all the time that aas effect different people in different ways...so how do you then jump to what happens in rabbits also happens in humans?

Because the drugs are not for humans and classified class 3, it would be considered illegal. We don't heroine or cocaine studies like this either.

 

[RickRock]

looks like the tren dose was like me using 180mg trenA every day. Must have been some bad ass rats!

Yeh that was a pretty insane dose. Now that's what I call a Gymrat!!