E2 control while on cycle

[Maximus PC]

Currently running 100 mg prop eod, 500 test E, I drop the prop this week.

I have a wonky breast gland that from time to time will flare up off cycle, and currently is swollen pretty good. I am taking 2ml of aromasin eod, and doesnt seem to touch it. I were doing 25mg/day but with the half life seemed a bit redundant. The reason I went from 1/2 ml to a full ml, was the swollen gland and overall feeling of being stupid, which seems to happen when my test is low.

Another point of note is, my sex drive is "ok" but im not getting random ragers like I normally do. Everything has been sourced from here, and while my strength and weight has been a steady gain, I cannot say its crazy, just awesome pumps and much much fuller.

Have I squashed my e2? And if so why would the breast gland still be swollen? Or is there some feedback loop that will produce prolactin, that im not seeing?

 

[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

Can't tell what your E levels are without blood work, and even if you crush your E you can still have a swollen gland that remains which may or may not be gyno. You should visit the doctor to determine exactly what you have. I know some buddies that suffer swollen glands on every single cycle and they use an AI and also have normal E levels, they are just more sensitive to hormone imbalance. All goes away once they are off cycle, true gyno does not go away on its own. A doctor will be able to diagnose you for certain,

 

[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

If you crush your estrogen you should feel like major shit, no energy no libido no appetite dry skin, dry eyes, joints hurt etc...

 

[Maximus PC]

If you crush your estrogen you should feel like major shit, no energy no libido no appetite dry skin, dry eyes, joints hurt etc...

None of that, skin stays pretty slick, and no dryness, just get brain fog now and then, then followed up by feeling as though im on speed, which is how i feel when androgens hit me.

 

[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

None of that, skin stays pretty slick, and no dryness, just get brain fog now and then, then followed up by feeling as though im on speed, which is how i feel when androgens hit me.

Not everyone exhibits the same exact symptoms, you should still run blood work to give you and idea where your at and visit a doc to diagnose what you have going on.

 

[DylanGemelli]

your going to have to get bloodwork done brother... i think you already know you were running too much test and there's just no reason to go that high whatsoever... get your bloods done asap so we can see what range you are in...

 

[Maximus PC]

Im only using the prop to "kick start" this is week 5, one more prop and done. Most until last week were 50 eod, it should only now really be fully hitting. ? ?

 

[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

your going to have to get bloodwork done brother... i think you already know you were running too much test and there's just no reason to go that high whatsoever... get your bloods done asap so we can see what range you are in...

That is a boat load of test, even for me. Lol

 

[Maximus PC]

They really shouldnt cross over much, as far as blood concentration, not this soon.

 

[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

Im only using the prop to "kick start" this is week 5, one more prop and done. Most until last week were 50 eod, it should only now really be fully hitting. ? ?

Or try running a lower dose of test and if you need more results your better off adding another compound or sarms. Multiple compounds at lower dosage may be a better idea than higher dosages of only one compound.

 

[RickRock]

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Your estrogen could be low now, but it's hard to say without bloodwork. It's a guessing game without it. It sounds like what happened is you had too much aromatization at first from all the test which caused the lump, and now you crushed your estrogen trying to get rid of it but it didn't go away.

Probably a combination of too much test and not enough AI at first caused all of this. Get bloodwork and go from there


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[DylanGemelli]

Im only using the prop to "kick start" this is week 5, one more prop and done. Most until last week were 50 eod, it should only now really be fully hitting. ? ?

yes and no... thats a general number but not always accurate and the accumulation may have just been too much... i know personally that if i go over 300-350 then i get issues immediately as it is and everything hits in half the time on me than its "supposed" to.... even eq is something i see in nearly half the normal time... so for some, different rules apply and you have to be aware and accommodating of that...

 

[Maximus PC]

Interesting update, havent had prop since Saturday, swelling is down a bit, drive is coming back up. Very odd

 

[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

Interesting update, havent had prop since Saturday, swelling is down a bit, drive is coming back up. Very odd

And all you did was stop pinning prop ?

 

[Maximus PC]

And all you did was stop pinning prop ?

My next schedule E shot is today, So besides what i oulined in the OP nothing different.

 

[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

My next schedule E shot is today, So besides what i oulined in the OP nothing different.

Looks like you may have discovered your dosage threshold as far as testosterone goes, i would keep the dosage below the recent doses that caused you to experience swelling. Monitor the situation, apply a heat pad to the swelling and if things get worse visit the doctor so they can diagnose you, this way you will know exactly whats going on if you ever choose to run hormone altering compounds again(or any other drugs for that matter than can cause the same issues, as there are several). You also want to rule out if you have gyno or not, the doc can do this for you. Ultimately your best option is to go see the doc regardless and tell him the truth. They will help you

 

[Maximus PC]

Looks like you may have discovered your dosage threshold as far as testosterone goes, i would keep the dosage below the recent doses that caused you to experience swelling. Monitor the situation, apply a heat pad to the swelling and if things get worse visit the doctor so they can diagnose you, this way you will know exactly whats going on if you ever choose to run hormone altering compounds again(or any other drugs for that matter than can cause the same issues, as there are several). You also want to rule out if you have gyno or not, the doc can do this for you. Ultimately your best option is to go see the doc regardless and tell him the truth. They will help you

My plan in the future (ive had this since 03) is to have it cut out. It was a small case of gyno, that just turned into a hypersensitive to hormones gland

 

[Gymjunkie38]

You mentioned one ml is 25mg sarms x and the other 2 research chem site I trust dont dose that high on exem its 15mg so wondering about quality where did you get it

 

[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

My plan in the future (ive had this since 03) is to have it cut out. It was a small case of gyno, that just turned into a hypersensitive to hormones gland

So the doctor has already diagnosed you with having gyno ? And youve always had a lump both on and off cycle ? Makes a difference if it remains after cycle, or re occurs after a cycle

 

[Maximus PC]

So the doctor has already diagnosed you with having gyno ? And youve always had a lump both on and off cycle ? Makes a difference if it remains after cycle, or re occurs after a cycle

Its there, in varying degrees when off. Sometimes its slightly inflamed, sometimes its totally gone. But yes had it looked at, back then. It gets inflamed when on cycle, and triples in size just about over night, then subsides when off. Considering i should be on trt (and was) i dont really come off. Ill just have it yanked out at some point, i dont intend on breast feeding lol