DBOL only video

[lahakart]

Hello Dylan,

Quick question about your Dbol only cycle video. In the instance that a person does not have access to test but does have the proper PCT being Nolva for a Dbol only cycle. Wouldn't a typical bodybuilder say that something is better than nothing if ran at a low dose of 20mg a day for 4-5 weeks. I have read that in the early years this was a common practice among bodybuilders.

No need to call me stupid or dumb for asking as I am well aware of the shutdown aspect that comes with a Dbol only cycle. Just wanting some honest feedback.

FYI... A Winstrol only has been ran in the past, resulting in tremendous gains in strength within a 4-5 week cycle. However, it did have a huge negative effect on good cholesterol levels, so I am aware of the sides.

 

[EZ_E]

Someone may say "something is better than nothing" but it's 110% bro-science.

 

[lahakart]

Someone may say "something is better than nothing" but it's 110% bro-science.

Yeah I hear yuh. So what are your thoughts on running a low dose as described in original thread regarding sides. The "something is better than nothing" with nolva on hand and proper liver care supplements seems like it could produce some good results, if anything an increase strength/gains.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Hello Dylan,

Quick question about your Dbol only cycle video. In the instance that a person does not have access to test but does have the proper PCT being Nolva for a Dbol only cycle. Wouldn't a typical bodybuilder say that something is better than nothing if ran at a low dose of 20mg a day for 4-5 weeks. I have read that in the early years this was a common practice among bodybuilders.

No need to call me stupid or dumb for asking as I am well aware of the shutdown aspect that comes with a Dbol only cycle. Just wanting some honest feedback.

FYI... A Winstrol only has been ran in the past, resulting in tremendous gains in strength within a 4-5 week cycle. However, it did have a huge negative effect on good cholesterol levels, so I am aware of the sides.

first of all, you DO NOT have the proper pct, NOT EVEN CLOSE... second, you can run whatever you want man... if you want to follow things guys did in the 80's and 90's, by all means but many did not know what they were doing and paid a large price later and they just did not have the access you are lucky enough to have now with far more info and far more compounds and ancillaries... i would not advise this if you paid me a million dollars... PLEASE DO NOT TRY TO EDUCATE ME man... thats the last thing im hearing from you especially when i have been doing this a decade and you are new to this.. if you think googling some random bull shit quantifies what you are about to, by all means, go for it.. the audacity for you to come here and try to tell me how it is... unbelievable... GOOD LUCK TO YOU

 

[lahakart]

first of all, you DO NOT have the proper pct, NOT EVEN CLOSE... second, you can run whatever you want man... if you want to follow things guys did in the 80's and 90's, by all means but many did not know what they were doing and paid a large price later and they just did not have the access you are lucky enough to have now with far more info and far more compounds and ancillaries... i would not advise this if you paid me a million dollars... PLEASE DO NOT TRY TO EDUCATE ME man... thats the last thing im hearing from you especially when i have been doing this a decade and you are new to this.. if you think googling some random bull shit quantifies what you are about to, by all means, go for it.. the audacity for you to come here and try to tell me how it is... unbelievable... GOOD LUCK TO YOU

Wow. Congrats on getting angry at this man. I think you are mistaken by what my post is asking, which is for advice. Like I said before access to Test is currently unavailable or it would be ran alongside dbol as recommended by the bodybuilding community. If Nolva at 40/40/20/20 a week isn't the proper PCT, then what is for a low dose dbol only cycle like this? I have a feeling your going to say HCG and Clomid, however access to these compounds is unavailable as stated before, only the Nolva on hand. Thanks for any help here, its much appreciated.

 

[cmb5017]

Since every thing is "unavailable" it's best not to run Shit bro..

 

[RickRock]

Wow. Congrats on getting angry at this man. I think you are mistaken by what my post is asking, which is for advice. Like I said before access to Test is currently unavailable or it would be ran this alongside dbol as recommended by the bodybuilding community. If Nolva at 40/40/20/20 a week isn't the proper PCT, then what is for a low dose dbol only cycle like this? I have a feeling your going to say HCG and Clomid, however access to these compounds is unavailable as stated before, only the nolva on hand. Thanks for any help here, its much appreciated.

No bro, more misinformation. You don't ever use HCG in pct. and what do you mean about test not being available, or HCG or Clomid? You can get whatever the fuck you want bro. Just order the shit. It's not rocket science.

I wouldn't ever advise an oral only cycle, but a full steroid pct regardless of the cycle needs to look like this

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/platinum-pct-stack

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK-2866 25mg ED
GW 20mg ED

 

[buen]

"I am well aware of the shutdown aspect that comes with a Dbol only cycle. Just wanting some honest feedback. "

No you aren't looking for honest feedback....you already know
Only a reckless moron would shut himself down needlessly

Do what you want bro... no one here will be your enabler

 

[EZ_E]

Yeah I hear yuh. So what are your thoughts on running a low dose as described in original thread regarding sides. The "something is better than nothing" with nolva on hand and proper liver care supplements seems like it could produce some good results, if anything an increase strength/gains.

Did you read what I wrote? It's bro-science. Kinda like saying "I can't get a good bottle of wine so I'm going to drink some bathtub gin."

But hey, something is better than nothing.

 

[Thefederal]

Yeah... why are these things unavailable?

 

[DylanGemelli]

with what you have said, with nothing being available then you should not use steroids... you dont just run whats available if its not complete man... this is not making a sandwich where if you have no mayo or mustard , its okay to eat without it... you are talking about steroids... also, hcg is the worst thing you could ever run in pct.. im upset because you are going to hurt yourself for no reason! you need to rethink this one bro, thats all im saying... you are not going to find anyone with half a brain to advise you to do what you are doing... if you are intent, by all means, im not your dad but you are making a large mistake im not contributing to

 

[lahakart]

with what you have said, with nothing being available then you should not use steroids... you dont just run whats available if its not complete man... this is not making a sandwich where if you have no mayo or mustard , its okay to eat without it... you are talking about steroids... also, hcg is the worst thing you could ever run in pct.. im upset because you are going to hurt yourself for no reason! you need to rethink this one bro, thats all im saying... you are not going to find anyone with half a brain to advise you to do what you are doing... if you are intent, by all means, im not your dad but you are making a large mistake im not contributing to

Thanks for the feedback Dylan. The only reason I asked for advice in the first place is because I know it was going to be strait forward answer. So its appreciated. I am by no means intent on moving forward with this, however it is hard for me to wrap my head around having signifigant sides/shutdown from only 20mgs and on such a short cycle. The sandwich analogy however does make plenty of sense. I guess an explanation of why the shutdown and sides can occur from such a low dose would be extremely helpful. Risk vs Reward type of scenario. Thanks Bro

Yeah... why are these things unavailable?

Source.

Since every thing is "unavailable" it's best not to run Shit bro..

Thanks for the feed back bro.


BTW Here are my stats/goal:

Age: 30
Height: 6' 4"
Weight: 235
BF %: 13
Lifting for 10 years
Dieting on and off

Goal: Put on some quick muscle after lengthy stent from being able to train due to injury.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Thanks for the feedback Dylan. The only reason I asked for advice in the first place is because I know it was going to be strait forward answer. So its appreciated. I am by no means intent on moving forward with this, however it is hard for me to wrap my head around having signifigant sides/shutdown from only 20mgs and on such a short cycle. The sandwich analogy however does make plenty of sense. I guess an explanation of why the shutdown and sides can occur from such a low dose would be extremely helpful. Risk vs Reward type of scenario. Thanks Bro



Source.



Thanks for the feed back bro.


BTW Here are my stats/goal:

Age: 30
Height: 6' 4"
Weight: 235
BF %: 13
Lifting for 10 years
Dieting on and off

Goal: Put on some quick muscle after lengthy stent from be able to train due to injury.

im glad you are using your head bro... you have anything available to you bro, thats the easy part but we have to get you dialed in... you have stats that show you could be a monster if you DO THIS RIGHT and i will help you man... you just have to listen and understand... if you do that, trust me, you will be a fucking beast, i can tell that with the numbers.... on a first cycle you want to go test only... you would not use dbol in that equation but you can add some sarms to the mix... do you want to start with test? if not then i would only recommend sarms because i cannot knowingly recommend you to do something i know is not right for you...

 

[lahakart]

im glad you are using your head bro... you have anything available to you bro, thats the easy part but we have to get you dialed in... you have stats that show you could be a monster if you DO THIS RIGHT and i will help you man... you just have to listen and understand... if you do that, trust me, you will be a fucking beast, i can tell that with the numbers.... on a first cycle you want to go test only... you would not use dbol in that equation but you can add some sarms to the mix... do you want to start with test? if not then i would only recommend sarms because i cannot knowingly recommend you to do something i know is not right for you...

Dylan,

Thank you bro. I look forward to working with you. I think that a Test base is the best way to get back on track. As of 3 months ago my fitness coach of 10 years passed away from heart failure at the age of 55, which was a major blow to the entire body builder community in my area. This was an eye opener for many of us, hence the reason for seeking advice and also no longer having a proper source. It is also a long story to which there is know need to get into. If the next steps are chosen, which is the best route obviously, its crucial that a better safe than sorry path is essential. The need to make sure that the products used are as close to Pharma grade as possible is crucial.

The suggestions presented by this formal legend are as follows:

First Cycle:
Weeks 1-10: 500mg Test-E per week (2 injections)
Weeks 1-12: .5mg of Arimidex Every other Day
Weeks 4-12: 500iu's of HCG per week (2 injections same day as Test)

PCT:
Starting week 12, two weeks after last test shot
Week 1&2: 40mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per day
Week 3&4: 20mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per day

Thank you for the advice bro

 

[RickRock]

Dylan,

Thank you bro. I look forward to working with you. I think that a Test base is the best way to get back on track. As of 3 months ago my fitness coach of 10 years passed away from heart failure at the age of 55, which was a major blow to the entire body builder community in my area. This was an eye opener for many of us, hence the reason for seeking advice and also no longer having a proper source. It is also a long story to which there is know need to get into. If the next steps are chosen, which is the best route obviously, its crucial that a better safe than sorry path is essential. The need to make sure that the products used are as close to Pharma grade as possible is crucial.

The suggestions presented by this formal legend are as follows:

First Cycle:
Weeks 1-10: 500mg Test-E per week (2 injections)
Weeks 1-12: .5mg of Arimidex Every other Day
Weeks 4-12: 500iu's of HCG per week (2 injections same day as Test)

PCT:
Starting week 12, two weeks after last test shot
Week 1&2: 40mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per day
Week 3&4: 20mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per day

Thank you for the advice bro

Bro, do you realize we have a ton of great source here that can help you out to get whatever you need? I represent one of them, Biotech

 

[DylanGemelli]

Dylan,

Thank you bro. I look forward to working with you. I think that a Test base is the best way to get back on track. As of 3 months ago my fitness coach of 10 years passed away from heart failure at the age of 55, which was a major blow to the entire body builder community in my area. This was an eye opener for many of us, hence the reason for seeking advice and also no longer having a proper source. It is also a long story to which there is know need to get into. If the next steps are chosen, which is the best route obviously, its crucial that a better safe than sorry path is essential. The need to make sure that the products used are as close to Pharma grade as possible is crucial.

The suggestions presented by this formal legend are as follows:

First Cycle:
Weeks 1-10: 500mg Test-E per week (2 injections)
Weeks 1-12: .5mg of Arimidex Every other Day
Weeks 4-12: 500iu's of HCG per week (2 injections same day as Test)

PCT:
Starting week 12, two weeks after last test shot
Week 1&2: 40mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per day
Week 3&4: 20mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per day

Thank you for the advice bro

your pct is very very inadequate to say the least... that will do jack shit for you bro... not a thing...
when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well… let me show you how to properly do this... i will make it very very easy for you... here are the links to purchase everything you need followed by the layout.. .

https://www.sarmsx.com/30-Off/30-lgd-4033

https://www.sarmsx.com/liquiaro-15mgs-ml-30mls

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=133



1-12 test cyp 500 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
11-14 hcg 1000 ius week

pct 15-18


clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day

gw-501516 20 mg day