Coming off SARMS pills... PCT ?

[Beast96Z]

So I posted the other day about ditching the Rise brand RAD and Ligan that I had been on and will be continuing on with the rest of my DMZ cycle till the bottle is gone. Dosing as follows:

DMZ - 20mg twice a day in am/pm for 40mg
RAD pill - 9mg dosed 3 times a day for 27mg
LGD pill - 5mg dosed 3 times a day for 15mg

I quit the SARMS pills about 5 days ago and I feel like shit. No motivation, lethargic, everything seems heavier in the gym, and since I have continued with a bulking diet, fat seems to be coming in pretty hard in the mid section out of no where. Does this seem normal when coming off these pills? Are these signs of suppression or just bunk prohoromone sides? Also, will PTC help with these aspects when I start? I've never had to run a PTC before, so this is new for me.

Also, I'm getting the Platinum PTC kit, but GW scares the shit out of me. Since I don't feel like I have gained much if anything at all during my round with these bunk pills, Would another SARM be beneficial instead? How long after the DMZ do I start PTC? I apologize for all the questions, but I'm so tired of being misinformed on the supplement world in general. This has certainly been a learning curve with all the new products out today. It's not the same business as it was when I was in it 10-12 years ago.

Stats if needed:
39 years old
6'2" 185 lbs
13% BF

 

[DylanGemelli]

So I posted the other day about ditching the Rise brand RAD and Ligan that I had been on and will be continuing on with the rest of my DMZ cycle till the bottle is gone. Dosing as follows:

DMZ - 20mg twice a day in am/pm for 40mg
RAD pill - 9mg dosed 3 times a day for 27mg
LGD pill - 5mg dosed 3 times a day for 15mg

I quit the SARMS pills about 5 days ago and I feel like shit. No motivation, lethargic, everything seems heavier in the gym, and since I have continued with a bulking diet, fat seems to be coming in pretty hard in the mid section out of no where. Does this seem normal when coming off these pills? Are these signs of suppression or just bunk prohoromone sides? Also, will PTC help with these aspects when I start? I've never had to run a PTC before, so this is new for me.

Also, I'm getting the Platinum PTC kit, but GW scares the shit out of me. Since I don't feel like I have gained much if anything at all during my round with these bunk pills, Would another SARM be beneficial instead? How long after the DMZ do I start PTC? I apologize for all the questions, but I'm so tired of being misinformed on the supplement world in general. This has certainly been a learning curve with all the new products out today. It's not the same business as it was when I was in it 10-12 years ago.

Stats if needed:
39 years old
6'2" 185 lbs
13% BF

okay bro... there's a lot here your not understanding... your cortisol is increasing which is generally what occurs in pct... when this happens you are now being put in a catabolic state and it will eat your muscle and prevent you from adding more... also, cortisol brings on a lot of unwanted fat gain, which you are clearly experiencing... the entire point of GW in pct is to prevent cortisol spikes from occurring and mk2866 allows for you to grow muscle during pct, which is always wanted and generally very difficult to obtain... the pct is set as it is with great reason...

you should be starting pct the day after you finish dmz... i hope your learned from this experience... 1. DO NOT SARMS FROM UNTRUSTED SOURCES 2. DO NOT RUN ORAL ONLY CYCLES

you need to absolutely get your pct to you and begin it as it should be ran... recovery is the most important part of all of this... if you recover properly, you have a far greater likelihood of maintaining your gains and then you can go right into a sarms bridge, which will clean up and add to your gains...

 

[Beast96Z]

Thanks for the quick response Dylan. I blame my ignorance on wanting to jump into what was peddled as an awesome product. (Purchased locally from brick and mortar store) I should have paid more attention to how new the SARMS thing is and done more research. I'll get the PTC kit ordered and recover as instructed.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Thanks for the quick response Dylan. I blame my ignorance on wanting to jump into what was peddled as an awesome product. (Purchased locally from brick and mortar store) I should have paid more attention to how new the SARMS thing is and done more research. I'll get the PTC kit ordered and recover as instructed.

just take it as a lesson learned... its great that you came here and everything is getting fixed for you... you won't have to worry about any of this bull shit occurring again...

 

[Beast96Z]

Platinum PCT is ordered. Looking forward to hopefully seeing better results, even during PCT, with a quality product. Lesson learned, yes. Sucks that people are allowed to sell bunk shit that could really mess people up if they don't figure out whats going on.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Platinum PCT is ordered. Looking forward to hopefully seeing better results, even during PCT, with a quality product. Lesson learned, yes. Sucks that people are allowed to sell bunk shit that could really mess people up if they don't figure out whats going on.

absolutely brother.. keep us posted on your results... i will be happy to help you set up a bridge as well... just let me know your goals etc...

 

[RickRock]

Thanks for the quick response Dylan. I blame my ignorance on wanting to jump into what was peddled as an awesome product. (Purchased locally from brick and mortar store) I should have paid more attention to how new the SARMS thing is and done more research. I'll get the PTC kit ordered and recover as instructed.

I'm sure you learned a lot from this experience man, and that happens to us all at some point. You're in good hands now brother, and we will make sure you are steered in the right direction

 

[DylanGemelli]

Platinum PCT is ordered. Looking forward to hopefully seeing better results, even during PCT, with a quality product. Lesson learned, yes. Sucks that people are allowed to sell bunk shit that could really mess people up if they don't figure out whats going on.

if you have other questions about anything else, let me know as well...