Basic 2nd cycle Boldenone dosing questions

[ComstockZero]

Hi. 33, male, 5'7, 180. Goals are strength And lean mass for powerlifting. I do have to stay in a weight clsss. I was on TRT for 2y, dose of 190-200-220, each for about 6mo when I would drop and doc would raise me. Started anastrazole about 9mo in, when estradiol spiked to 54. It went back down and stabilized around 25, then it went to 0 suddenly next test and he had me cut dose in half. Went back and hung at 25 until I did my first cycle. It was 12 weeks test-c @ 420, 40mg tbol ED for 4wk. Took tudca and "cycle support" liver multi. Increased my AI from .5mg/wk which was my TRT dose to .5 EOD. Clomiphene 40/40/20 was my only PCT, but I also went back to 220 TRT. eGFR was a little low on post cycle tests but estradiol was in range and liver values were fine. I'm sorry I don't have exact values on those. Cholesterol has always been in range. BP and LDL elevated somewhat on cycle but stayed reasonable and dropped after.

In a few months I'd like to entertain a test/bold cycle but for 2nd cycles doses seem to be all over the place. I'm not greedy or antsy. I just want to be smart and reasonable. I'm not sure how to dose arimidex for a bigger cycle either. Last time I just guessed. Also not sure if my pct needs more than clomiphene after bold even going back to TRT doses.

I was thinking 500 test/300 bold.

Bonus Q: is there any advantage to running a low sides oral like proviron or tbol on a cycle like that? I'm not looking to overcomplicate things.

If there's any other background info I've forgotten that would help just let me know.

Thanks again.

 

[DylanGemelli]

you dont run a pct on trt whatsoever... you can use proviron anytime... its not even toxic and i use it on every cycle i run... you dont need to run three compounds on a second cycle.. i would bump eq to 600... you dont necessarily need 500 mg of test... i always keep mine at 350 but thats up to you... thats a good second cycle but like i said, you dont run pct on trt bro... you should already know that...

 

[ComstockZero]

Roger thanks. The clom was BC I was worried about too much suppression. That's not ever an issue? Let's say someone goes from a pretty aggressive 4th or 5th cycle with strong suppressive drugs. They don't need an hcg or clomiphene or anything after? What do you recommend for a starting dose of arimidex on something like 350 test/600 bold? If I run it 16 weeks I'll get a blood at 8w to see how well I'm controlling estriadol but I would be speculating on how to start the arimidex. Thanks.

 

[ComstockZero]

you dont run a pct on trt whatsoever... you can use proviron anytime... its not even toxic and i use it on every cycle i run... you dont need to run three compounds on a second cycle.. i would bump eq to 600... you dont necessarily need 500 mg of test... i always keep mine at 350 but thats up to you... thats a good second cycle but like i said, you dont run pct on trt bro... you should already know that...

Another Q, Dylan:

How would you pair Ostarine with Test/Bold? Let's say it is a 16w Test/Bold Cycle. Where would Ostarine fit in for 4 or 6 wk, or would there be a better SARM choice for strength/mass/recovery to pair with that cycle than Ostarine? (powerlifting/strongman is brutal on the body, anything that helps recovery is great). Would you run it as a kickstart like Dbol or is that completely the wrong idea for a SARM? Know very little about them but trying to do my research, thanks.

 

[RickRock]

Roger thanks. The clom was BC I was worried about too much suppression. That's not ever an issue? Let's say someone goes from a pretty aggressive 4th or 5th cycle with strong suppressive drugs. They don't need an hcg or clomiphene or anything after? What do you recommend for a starting dose of arimidex on something like 350 test/600 bold? If I run it 16 weeks I'll get a blood at 8w to see how well I'm controlling estriadol but I would be speculating on how to start the arimidex. Thanks.

Suppressing of what? If you on TRT, your natural test is completely shutdown, so there isn't anything to suppress. You are getting your testosterone from an outside source.

For estrogen control I recommend Aromasin. Dosing would be 12.5mg EOD

 

[RickRock]

Another Q, Dylan:

How would you pair Ostarine with Test/Bold? Let's say it is a 16w Test/Bold Cycle. Where would Ostarine fit in for 4 or 6 wk, or would there be a better SARM choice for strength/mass/recovery to pair with that cycle than Ostarine? (powerlifting/strongman is brutal on the body, anything that helps recovery is great). Would you run it as a kickstart like Dbol or is that completely the wrong idea for a SARM? Know very little about them but trying to do my research, thanks.

I would entertain the idea of adding in LGD and S4 to that for its strength and lean mass capabilities because of your powerLifting goals. It will also help,recovery a great deal as well. Run those the first 12 weeks of your cycle


1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later

 

[DylanGemelli]

im just lost bro... do you understand any of this ? did you put yourself on trt or is it prescribed???

for sarms to add, as rick pointed out, lgd and s4 are the best for strength but mk2866 and gw501516 are the best for recovery

 

[ComstockZero]

im just lost bro... do you understand any of this ? did you put yourself on trt or is it prescribed???

for sarms to add, as rick pointed out, lgd and s4 are the best for strength but mk2866 and gw501516 are the best for recovery

It's prescribed. I was at 300.

 

[DylanGemelli]

you are running trt at 300??

 

[RickRock]

It's prescribed. I was at 300.

You were running a 300mg dose, or your test levels came back at 300ng/dl?

 

[ComstockZero]

You were running a 300mg dose, or your test levels came back at 300ng/dl?

My level was 300 ng/dL. My dose started at 190mg/wk. About 9mo later, my levels dropped and they went to 200 mg/wk. Ability 6mo later same thing, up to 220mg/wk. Everything stabilized at 220.

 

[Wesley Sniper]

My level was 300 ng/dL. My dose started at 190mg/wk. About 9mo later, my levels dropped and they went to 200 mg/wk. Ability 6mo later same thing, up to 220mg/wk. Everything stabilized at 220.

Something seems terribly wrong with these numbers bro. Everyone responds differently to test, but 300 ng/dl while running 220mg PW seems pretty screwy. Is your gear even legit...is it pharma or ugl?

 

[DylanGemelli]

im sorry but none of this makes any sense whatsoever... NONE... something is either b eing explained wrong or there is something else going on

 

[ComstockZero]

Something seems terribly wrong with these numbers bro. Everyone responds differently to test, but 300 ng/dl while running 220mg PW seems pretty screwy. Is your gear even legit...is it pharma or ugl?

No, no, no, you are talking about two different time periods in my life. Dylan asked whether I was just "giving myself TRT" or it was being administrated by a doc so when I said I was 300, I'm answering him as to why I initiated TRT - 2 years ago. As I said in the background, my history is that I was on TRT for 2 years before I did a cycle. My levels when I went in for a TRT consult, 2 years ago, were 300 ng/dl. Not now. The 190-200-220 is how my test-c doseage went up after subsequent tests. I think 4 months later I was 1075 ng/dl, 4 months after that i was about 985 on 190, 4 months after that i was about 900 and he increased me to 200, 4 months after that I was 835 and he increased me to 220, 4 months after that I was 975 and have been roughly 925~995 ever since, it still fluctuates. I think walking in my Arimidex dose the whole time was part of it.

Some short time after that I started my 1st cycle, which just ended like a couple weeks ago.