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I have a really bad arthritic elbow. I can no longer extend pass 20 degrees. Makes it difficult to lift properly.. will test, deca, dbol cycle help or is it possible that I could become more arthritic?...
 
I have a really bad arthritic elbow. I can no longer extend pass 20 degrees. Makes it difficult to lift properly.. will test, deca, dbol cycle help or is it possible that I could become more arthritic?...

Deca could possibly help you not feel pain because of the way it lubricates that area, but I think your best option is to try out a healing stack from www.sarmsx.com AAS can complicate things, especially if you are lifting through pain you can't feel

What is your stats and experience?

Here is the healing stack from sarmsx. Run this for 12 weeks, and ideally you would want to keep running the MK-677 on past that. It is best run for at least 6 months to a year and has excellent healing benefits just like GH, since it causes your body to release more GH. The stack gives you REAL healing benefits. I don't know the extent of your issues, but this is much better than using AAS. I'm not saying it will fix arthritis at all, but AAS certainly will not fix it, and this is the best option you have for healing and recovery

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/healing-and-recovery-stack-12-weeks-2

1-12 MK-2866 25mg ED dosed once in the AM
1-12 LGD 10mg per day dosed once in the AM
1-12 MK-677 25mg per day dosed once in the AM


PCT

Clomid 50/25/25/25
GW 20mg per day

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/sarms-mini-pct-stack-1



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I'm currently in physical therapy. Trying to regain full mobility in my elbow. I will definitely look into sarms. My main concern is it don't want to create further damage.. has anyone ever heard of aas increasing arthritis symptoms?
 
I had a shoulder injury about five years ago and it's normal for it to hurt. When I go on deca it helps substantially, but when I come off it feels like it hurts worse. Probably bc I wasn't in pain for a period of time and I have to get used to it again. That's just my experience with deca
 
This will be my third cycle... first cycle test only, second cycle was test along with deca. I know how to properly pct. I was 170, 6,1 about 4 years ago.. I weigh 220 now with awesome gains..... this being my third cycle I was gonna add dbol.
 
I'm currently in physical therapy. Trying to regain full mobility in my elbow. I will definitely look into sarms. My main concern is it don't want to create further damage.. has anyone ever heard of aas increasing arthritis symptoms?

AAS can certainly cause further damage because the Deca will mask pain and the strength increases will cause you to push through pain barriers you can no longer feel. Not a good thing, that can potentially cause more harm and damage


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Thanks Rickrock. Doc injected cortisone in my elbow twice now so I'm not feeling much anyway. I guess this is just part of getting older lol.
 
Please dont let you doctor continue cortisone treatments. IMO that is worse than AAS like Deca. All it does is mask the pain by turning off inflammation, this is NOT a good thing. Inflammation is like a signal (think of it as a flare) your body creates, its the only way the natural healing factors know to what to do and where to go to start working. Without inflammation your body doesn't recognize itself as being injured so it does little to nothing to try to heal itself. That's also why NSAID's like ibuprofen are so bad...I hope that makes sense.

Essentially the purpose of the cortisone is to relieve your pain in order to make physical therapy possible...but its also working against you making the healing process longer and any newly grown tissues will be weaker as a result. Try to convince your doctor to prescribe you something without an NSAID such as a narcotic pain reliever just to get you through your PT for now. This is assuming you don't have a preexisting problem with them.

Tylenol is generally ok to use sparingly (it's in most prescription narcotics). Aspirin, ibuprofen, naproxen sodium, and especially cortisone stay FAR away from.

Look into getting prolotherapy. I got it done in my shoulder and it helped a little. I only did a single session but I did get a lasting positive effect. It should be covered under most insurance for pretty much no cost.
 
Please dont let you doctor continue cortisone treatments. IMO that is worse than AAS like Deca. All it does is mask the pain by turning off inflammation, this is NOT a good thing. Inflammation is like a signal (think of it as a flare) your body creates, its the only way the natural healing factors know to what to do and where to go to start working. Without inflammation your body doesn't recognize itself as being injured so it does little to nothing to try to heal itself. That's also why NSAID's like ibuprofen are so bad...I hope that makes sense.

Essentially the purpose of the cortisone is to relieve your pain in order to make physical therapy possible...but its also working against you making the healing process longer and any newly grown tissues will be weaker as a result. Try to convince your doctor to prescribe you something without an NSAID such as a narcotic pain reliever just to get you through your PT for now. This is assuming you don't have a preexisting problem with them.

Tylenol is generally ok to use sparingly (it's in most prescription narcotics). Aspirin, ibuprofen, naproxen sodium, and especially cortisone stay FAR away from.

Look into getting prolotherapy. I got it done in my shoulder and it helped a little. I only did a single session but I did get a lasting positive effect. It should be covered under most insurance for pretty much no cost.

Thanks dude, yeah I agree bro. No more cortisone injections for me. Waste of time in my opinion. Been trying to rehabilitate this elbow for about 9 months now with absolutely no improvement. My elbow refuses to go pass 20 degrees... I have never heard of prolotherapy. I appreciate your response to this thread and I'll definitely look into prolotherapy and see what it's all about.
 
Cool, so the concept behind prolotherapy is to purposely swell the area so that the body can respond and heal the area naturally. It's literally the opposite of cortisone hahaha.. I'll do some more research on the subject. It does seem to be a bit controversial
 
Please dont let you doctor continue cortisone treatments. IMO that is worse than AAS like Deca. All it does is mask the pain by turning off inflammation, this is NOT a good thing. Inflammation is like a signal (think of it as a flare) your body creates, its the only way the natural healing factors know to what to do and where to go to start working. Without inflammation your body doesn't recognize itself as being injured so it does little to nothing to try to heal itself. That's also why NSAID's like ibuprofen are so bad...I hope that makes sense.

Essentially the purpose of the cortisone is to relieve your pain in order to make physical therapy possible...but its also working against you making the healing process longer and any newly grown tissues will be weaker as a result. Try to convince your doctor to prescribe you something without an NSAID such as a narcotic pain reliever just to get you through your PT for now. This is assuming you don't have a preexisting problem with them.

Tylenol is generally ok to use sparingly (it's in most prescription narcotics). Aspirin, ibuprofen, naproxen sodium, and especially cortisone stay FAR away from.

Look into getting prolotherapy. I got it done in my shoulder and it helped a little. I only did a single session but I did get a lasting positive effect. It should be covered under most insurance for pretty much no cost.

Agree complete.y with all of this. I can't stand it when doctors give cortisone instead of addressing and correcting problems. They make things worse by doing that. The only thing they are good at is covering up pain....and so,etimes you need that pain there to tell you when you shouldn't be doing something!!


(PM me for a price list for Biotech Labs and 10% discount)
 
Cool, so the concept behind prolotherapy is to purposely swell the area so that the body can respond and heal the area naturally. It's literally the opposite of cortisone hahaha.. I'll do some more research on the subject. It does seem to be a bit controversial
Find a good orthopedist that offers prolotherapy and definitely ask them about it. Yea kinda funny how it is literally the opposite of what most doctors try to do (its not there fault they are clueless, only understand what they learned or remembered from school). They usually inject the inflammatory substance along with a numbing agent so it doesn't hurt too bad. But it can still cause pain (which is part of the healing process) and if you are paying for it with your pocket book and your body you should understand all the possible side effects (mainly a temporary increase in pain). If there is not a SINGLE question that doctor can't clearly answer for you then go find someone else. Best of luck to you.
 
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