Around Cycle Questions

[Muscle Nerd]

Hello gents,

I am on the last week of the PCT of the following cycle:

Weeks: 1-8: LGD 10mg ED, dosed once in morning
Weeks: 1-8: S4 50mg ED, dosed once in morning and once pre workout
Weeks: 9-12: Epistane 50mg ED, dosed once in morning and once pre workout
Weeks: 13-16: Nolvadex 20mg ED, dosed once in morning

The questions I have are:
a) How much time to stay off until I start the next 12 weeks SARMS-only cycle (LGD as base)?
b) When to go for bloodwork?
c) I have one bottle of mk 677 (enough 40 days at 25mg/day) and one bottle of ostarine (enough for 30 days at 25mg/day, in pills). How to utilise these 2 ine the next cycle?

Thanks in advance people,
M.N

 

[44YOGearHead]

Hello gents,

I am on the last week of the PCT of the following cycle:

Weeks: 1-8: LGD 10mg ED, dosed once in morning
Weeks: 1-8: S4 50mg ED, dosed once in morning and once pre workout
Weeks: 9-12: Epistane 50mg ED, dosed once in morning and once pre workout
Weeks: 13-16: Nolvadex 20mg ED, dosed once in morning

The questions I have are:
a) How much time to stay off until I start the next 12 weeks SARMS-only cycle (LGD as base)?
b) When to go for bloodwork?
c) I have one bottle of mk 677 (enough 40 days at 25mg/day) and one bottle of ostarine (enough for 30 days at 25mg/day, in pills). How to utilise these 2 ine the next cycle?

Thanks in advance people,
M.N

Stomach acids gonna love these before you even get a ounce of good outta them, if they are even legit SARMs vs PH's as is the norm. Who recommended this for you PCT wise? Your cycle was essentially shit. Yes you saw some gains, but you'll be lucky to maintain 2 pounds of whatever you gained. Was the LGD, or S4 from SARMSX? Or was this pill form as well? Also need your stats before anyone can offer any advice.

 

[RickRock]

Hello gents,

I am on the last week of the PCT of the following cycle:

Weeks: 1-8: LGD 10mg ED, dosed once in morning
Weeks: 1-8: S4 50mg ED, dosed once in morning and once pre workout
Weeks: 9-12: Epistane 50mg ED, dosed once in morning and once pre workout
Weeks: 13-16: Nolvadex 20mg ED, dosed once in morning

The questions I have are:
a) How much time to stay off until I start the next 12 weeks SARMS-only cycle (LGD as base)?
b) When to go for bloodwork?
c) I have one bottle of mk 677 (enough 40 days at 25mg/day) and one bottle of ostarine (enough for 30 days at 25mg/day, in pills). How to utilise these 2 ine the next cycle?

Thanks in advance people,
M.N

What is your full stats, experience, and goals bud? I wouldn't have ever recommend taking an oral, especially a Pryor,one without a test base. And your pct is not complete at all. I understand you are at the end of pct, but you need bloodwork in a couple weeks to see where everything is at before starting anything. If all is good you are fine to start a sarms cycle.

I don't know where you got your sarms, but you need to make sure you get everything from a solid source. The only one we recommend and trust is www.sarmsx.com

Tell me your goals and I'll help you set one up

 

[Muscle Nerd]

Thank you for the reply.
Lgd and S4 were in liquid form. Mk 677 is also in liquid form. Only ostarine is in pills form and none of the above were from SARMSX.
Pct wise my research led me to use nolvadex at that dose.

Alright now I am 1.73m, 75 kg and not fat I guess (all abs are visible, chest fibers are visible too). Before cycle I was 79kg. I will stop the cutting diet in a few days as summer is over.
My goals are to bulk during winter and cut for summer. I want to gain muscle like everyone here I guess.

EDIT: I forgot to mention the supplements I was taking during the whole cycle, like protectors for liver, blood pressure, prostate. I was also taking multivitamins and during the pct I am taking a test booster.

 

[RickRock]

Thank you for the reply.
Lgd and S4 were in liquid form. Mk 677 is also in liquid form. Only ostarine is in pills form and none of the above were from SARMSX.
Pct wise my research led me to use nolvadex at that dose.

Alright now I am 1.73m, 75 kg and not fat I guess (all abs are visible, chest fibers are visible too). Before cycle I was 79kg. I will stop the cutting diet in a few days as summer is over.
My goals are to bulk during winter and cut for summer. I want to gain muscle like everyone here I guess.

EDIT: I forgot to mention the supplements I was taking during the whole cycle, like protectors for liver, blood pressure, prostate. I was also taking multivitamins and during the pct I am taking a test booster.

Ok bro,l you need to stay away from the pill sarms. And just having liquid doesn't insure quality either. There's a ton of bunk companies out there. I wouldn't recommend using anyone but www.sarmsxcom

I've been dealing with sarms companies for years and the bad quality out there is very widespread.

Here is what I recommend you run for your goals of bulking

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/ultra-recomp-stack-12-weeks-2

1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 RAD-140 20mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.

PCT

Clomid 50/25/25/25
GW 20mg per day

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/sarms-mini-pct-stack-1

 

[Muscle Nerd]

Ok bro,l you need to stay away from the pill sarms. And just having liquid doesn't insure quality either. There's a ton of bunk companies out there. I wouldn't recommend using anyone but www.sarmsxcom

I've been dealing with sarms companies for years and the bad quality out there is very widespread.

Here is what I recommend you run for your goals of bulking

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/ultra-recomp-stack-12-weeks-2

1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 RAD-140 20mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.

PCT

Clomid 50/25/25/25
GW 20mg per day

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/sarms-mini-pct-stack-1

Thank you for the reply.

Considering that I want to use 2 compounds max, which would be the second, given that i want to use lgd again?
Also considering that the bottle of mk 677 I already have is legit, when should I use it to maximise the efficiency of the cycle?
Last one and I am done: You suggest Clomid instead of Nolva. May I ask why do you think clomiphene citrate is more suitable than tamoxifen citrate, considering the latter's estrogen blocking properties?

 

[jp1957]

lgd and S4 then. But stacked with rad, makes a wicked combo.

You also should run GW during the cycle, actually ANY cycle.

For an LGD based cycle,. pct is Clomid AND nolva, plus gw during pct

 

[RickRock]

Thank you for the reply.

Considering that I want to use 2 compounds max, which would be the second, given that i want to use lgd again?
Also considering that the bottle of mk 677 I already have is legit, when should I use it to maximise the efficiency of the cycle?
Last one and I am done: You suggest Clomid instead of Nolva. May I ask why do you think clomiphene citrate is more suitable than tamoxifen citrate, considering the latter's estrogen blocking properties?

If you have to just pick two for size and strength I'd go LGD and RAD myself.

You can add the MK677 in if you want but if you didn't get it from sarmsx it's hard to say if it's actually legit, especially if it was cheap. MK677 is the most expensive sarm of all and as a result it's the most faked sarm of all

(PM me for a price list for Biotech Labs and 10% discount)

 

[Muscle Nerd]

Thank you all, brothers

 

[Muscle Nerd]

Hello again all.
I am bumping my old thread since time for recomp sarms stack has come.
Before staring I want to share my bloodwork I did yesterday:

Glucose 89 mg/dl (70 - 110)
Urea 55 mg/dl (15 - 50)
Creatinine 1,17 mg/dl (0,5 - 1.5)
Uric acid 4,9 mg/dl (70 - 110)
Total cholesterol 125 mg/dl (125 - 200)
HDL 54 mg/dl (35 - 75)
LDL 62 mg/dl (0 - 130)
SGOT 21 U/L (5 - 40)
SGPT 35 U/L (5 - 40)
Gamma GT 10 U/L (0 - 60)
CPK 135 IU/I (50 - 290)

What do you think? My doctor went mad because of the high urea and the higher than he expected SGPT.
Also can I do something to drop these values or maybe postpone the LGD / S4 12 weeks cycle I have planned to start next week for a while? Would it help?

As always thanks in advance

 

[DylanGemelli]

Urea is a waste product formed from the breakdown of proteins. Urea is usually passed out in the urine. A high blood level of urea ('uraemia') indicates that the kidneys may not be working properly, or that you have a low body water content (are dehydrated).

SGPT (ALT) This blood test measures an enzyme called alanine transaminase (ALT). Enzymes are chemicals that help the cells of your body work. ALT is an enzyme made in the liver. It is released into the blood when tissues are damaged.
This enzyme is also called serum glutamic-pyruvic transaminase, or SGPT.

your alt is still within range and your BUN is barely out of range so im not sure what he is freaking out about... i would start with tudca, take in plenty of fiber and start flushing your system... drink plenty of water... sometimes it is recommended to take in lower amounts of protein with a high bun because your kidneys are overworked as well... also, keep stress levels to a minimum... blood pressure can be an issue here as well..

 

[Muscle Nerd]

Thanks Dylan.
What about starting a sarms cycle? Could they have an impact on kidney or liver values?

 

[RickRock]

Thanks Dylan.
What about starting a sarms cycle? Could they have an impact on kidney or liver values?

Sarms aren't going to impact those bro. Nothing to worry about in that regard

(PM me for a price list for Biotech Labs and 10% discount)

 

[DylanGemelli]

Thanks Dylan.
What about starting a sarms cycle? Could they have an impact on kidney or liver values?

sarms are not hepatoxic in any way so there should not be any effect on the values whatsoever...