Excellent point to start out good frame to build on
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Also, to add, I know it's different for everyone and I will be doing bloodwork mid cycle to see how suppressed I am, but just looking for any extra useful info before I start cycling.I have a question to add to this thread. Since I will likely be suppressing or shutting down my natural test within 4-5 weeks of this cycle, should I run a test base of some sort during the cycle? I have pct that Dylan recommended ready to take for 3 weeks post cycle, including clomid, gw, and mk677.
the sarms are your androgens so it is not necessary and will defeat the purpose of using sarms in the first place, since test will shut you down hard and cause estrogenic and androgenic sides.I have a question to add to this thread. Since I will likely be suppressing or shutting down my natural test within 4-5 weeks of this cycle, should I run a test base of some sort during the cycle? I have pct that Dylan recommended ready to take for 3 weeks post cycle, including clomid, gw, and mk677.
thanks for the info appreciate it.the sarms are your androgens so it is not necessary and will defeat the purpose of using sarms in the first place, since test will shut you down hard and cause estrogenic and androgenic sides.
No clue to be honest, there is just so much skewed information on the internet. I read it somewhere.SARMs definitely do not need a "test base". I don't even know where this term came from. "Test base", lol. All steroids are derivatives of testosterone in some way.
there is an overabundance of flat ass ignorance.. test IS SUPPRESSIVE... IT IS running a steroid.. is is THE STEROID so insinuating you need a test base using sarms, which aside from s23 and lgd3303 are all FAR FAR less suppressive than steroids and one of the main reasons in choosing them, makes less than zero sense to tell someone wanting to avoid getting shutdown to use a steroid... that is just far past ignorant and i have no clue why anyone would ever tell someone something so harmful...No clue to be honest, there is just so much skewed information on the internet. I read it somewhere.
Yea this is the conclusion I came to after reading a bit more on this forum. I appreciate the knowledge that you and others on this forum have because a lot of people need this kind of information before they go fucking themselves up.there is an overabundance of flat ass ignorance.. test IS SUPPRESSIVE... IT IS running a steroid.. is is THE STEROID so insinuating you need a test base using sarms, which aside from s23 and lgd3303 are all FAR FAR less suppressive than steroids and one of the main reasons in choosing them, makes less than zero sense to tell someone wanting to avoid getting shutdown to use a steroid... that is just far past ignorant and i have no clue why anyone would ever tell someone something so harmful...
now, if you are using s23 or ldg3303, you would find benefit there because you are already shutting yourself down, more so with s23 but enough with lgd3303 that it is near that of a steroid but the others, thats just absurd
if you wanted to you a natural testosterone booster, then that would be just fine and a wise thing to do but certainly NOT testosterone
Im happy to help!Yea this is the conclusion I came to after reading a bit more on this forum. I appreciate the knowledge that you and others on this forum have because a lot of people need this kind of information before they go fucking themselves up.
photos are kinda shitty quality but oh well haha
two weeks into my cycle sitting around 160 lbs fasted in morning 163-164 at night.