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I've never ran deca, but I've ran tren numerous times both ace and eth, I've got a few cycles under my belt and i know how my body reacts for the most part, but I'm going to lay out my cycle see what improvements can be made
weeks 1-16 sust 250 (alpha pharma ) at 750mg or 1000mg (I've ran test this high before and have aromasin on hand
weeks 1-10 deca (alpha pharma) at 500mg (would do 400mg but it dosed at 250mg/ml (got prami and caber on hand)
1-16 eq (mostly singani but got some alpha too) at 500mg a week (i know 600 is better but its dosed at 250mg/ml)
then i cruise on phrama test cyp at 200mg a week.
oh i might add tbol or droll for the first 4 week not decided the tbol is pharmacom and the droll is maxtreme ( hell i thought about one day do droll the next tbol just to see what would happen

im 31 years old at 205lbs at 12% body fat and 5 foot 8 inches tall. just going to eat 6 big clean meals not counting carbs,fat or calories but protein I'm aim at 250g of protein a day, last time i did this i was over 4,000 calories, i should grow
if their is any improvement plz put your input in no matter how mean it is,
thank you
 
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750 or 1000mg's of test and "Aromasin on hand"??? Holy shit dude... 500mg's of Deca with "Caber on hand"???? Wow!
Those are some big numbers bro. Why wouldn't you just take the Aromasin and Caber? Why wait till it's too late? Maybe it's just my age but being safe is the only way to go. Losing use of your dick or having your E2 all fucked can really ruin a nice cycle. I would be willing to bet cash money that if you ran 400 test and 400 Deca a wk you would get just as much out of it with fewer sides to deal with. Taking the Aromasin and Caber with that cycle is going to almost guarantee you a better run with fewer problems. Running Deca at 10 weeks is wasteful... it doesn't really kick you until around week 8... Good luck bro. Keep us posted! [emoji123]


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Daveb8573 said:
750 or 1000mg's of test and "Aromasin on hand"??? Holy shit dude... 500mg's of Deca with "Caber on hand"???? Wow!
Those are some big numbers bro. Why wouldn't you just take the Aromasin and Caber? Why wait till it's too late? Maybe it's just my age but being safe is the only way to go. Losing use of your dick or having your E2 all fucked can really ruin a nice cycle. I would be willing to bet cash money that if you ran 400 test and 400 Deca a wk you would get just as much out of it with fewer sides to deal with. Taking the Aromasin and Caber with that cycle is going to almost guarantee you a better run with fewer problems. Running Deca at 10 weeks is wasteful... it doesn't really kick you until around week 8... Good luck bro. Keep us posted! [emoji123]


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i am going to take the caber the full run like i do with tren (just was lazy and didn't want to type it tbh .i wish i could do 400 mg of deca but alpha dosed at 250 mg /ml.. i don't get many esterogen side with test that high thats why i got the ai on hand. but you would run deca the full 16 weeks?
thanks for the input
 
deca is one of my favorite steroids period but what does it being 250 have to do with you not being able to dose it at 400 mg? can you not measure it on your syringe?? you dont need 500 mg week... thats when your likely to see sides from it that can easily be avoided... i also dont see the point in running this 16 weeks... thats up to you again but its not necessary and only goes for a longer more difficult recovery and your not going to get that much more from it at that point...
 
i came off a 10 month deca + test run back in october. i'm gonna second the input of the members that gave advice. you don't need 500mg/week. i ran 500mg for 2 months and ballooned up. also, i could smell the hormone from my armpits. that smell clung to whatever shirt i wore that day, till i laundered it of course. it wasn't a bad smell at all, but it was definitely the deca. i was only running 125mg test-e/week alongside it and i've done test-e at 350mg before and never experienced any odor.

i never experienced any gyno related sides since i had my e2 under control with aromasin. at 500mg, i didn't need caber. i had a metric ton of caber on hand though.
after 2 months, i dropped it down to 125mg/week to match the amount of test per week. even at that dose, with a solid diet, i recomped my body over the next 2 months and stayed on till october this year. i love the fullness you get with deca, and the gains you slowly build over time with it is easily kept post cycle, as long as you maintain the proper diet and do a proper pct. seriously, you can keep an awesome amount of muscle even after you come off. but, this compound it not without its dark side.

my libido became non-existent on deca. i just broke off a 9 month relationship with my ex, and during the entire time, i had the worst sex of my life(100% myself being the reason). it was torturous because she was the most beautiful girlfriend i've had yet(compared to the previous 7). i could never finish. even with e2 control, AND with the application of caber regularly, it did nothing. surely, deca affects people in different ways but this aspect makes me debate whether i ever want to run deca again. i may try NPP instead but since we don't know with true certainty, the actual mechanism that causes this side effect, i will probably just stay away from nandrolones altogether.

(side note: i think it's ironic that on a site of this subject matter, the spellchecker doesn't recognize the hormones aforementioned and underscores them red lol)
 
Iron4Life said:
i came off a 10 month deca + test run back in october. i'm gonna second the input of the members that gave advice. you don't need 500mg/week. i ran 500mg for 2 months and ballooned up. also, i could smell the hormone from my armpits. that smell clung to whatever shirt i wore that day, till i laundered it of course. it wasn't a bad smell at all, but it was definitely the deca. i was only running 125mg test-e/week alongside it and i've done test-e at 350mg before and never experienced any odor.

i never experienced any gyno related sides since i had my e2 under control with aromasin. at 500mg, i didn't need caber. i had a metric ton of caber on hand though.
after 2 months, i dropped it down to 125mg/week to match the amount of test per week. even at that dose, with a solid diet, i recomped my body over the next 2 months and stayed on till october this year. i love the fullness you get with deca, and the gains you slowly build over time with it is easily kept post cycle, as long as you maintain the proper diet and do a proper pct. seriously, you can keep an awesome amount of muscle even after you come off. but, this compound it not without its dark side.

my libido became non-existent on deca. i just broke off a 9 month relationship with my ex, and during the entire time, i had the worst sex of my life(100% myself being the reason). it was torturous because she was the most beautiful girlfriend i've had yet(compared to the previous 7). i could never finish. even with e2 control, AND with the application of caber regularly, it did nothing. surely, deca affects people in different ways but this aspect makes me debate whether i ever want to run deca again. i may try NPP instead but since we don't know with true certainty, the actual mechanism that causes this side effect, i will probably just stay away from nandrolones altogether.

(side note: i think it's ironic that on a site of this subject matter, the spellchecker doesn't recognize the hormones aforementioned and underscores them red lol)
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You recovered after 10 months of deca?

Deca doesn't kill my sex drive but it definitely lowers it to normal levels.

I'd say 300mg is a good first Deca cycle

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DTA707 said:
You recovered after 10 months of deca?

Deca doesn't kill my sex drive but it definitely lowers it to normal levels.

I'd say 300mg is a good first Deca cycle

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DTA, my libido came back full force a few weeks after coming off. but once i started pct, it went down again a bit. not as bad as when i was on cycle, however. i'm still on serms so i haven't gotten bloods yet but i've retained about 90% of the muscle gained throughout the year. i take that as a good sign. muscle built more slowly over time seems much easier to retain.
 
DylanGemelli said:
deca is one of my favorite steroids period but what does it being 250 have to do with you not being able to dose it at 400 mg? can you not measure it on your syringe?? you dont need 500 mg week... thats when your likely to see sides from it that can easily be avoided... i also dont see the point in running this 16 weeks... thats up to you again but its not necessary and only goes for a longer more difficult recovery and your not going to get that much more from it at that point...
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even if you measure in a syringe, you can't get 400 on the dot (I've used every math formula i know).granted im not the sharpest knife in the drawer. there can't be much difference between 400 to 500,I can be wrong tho like 600mg of test e isn't much different than 750mg form my experience but and my orignal plan was 10 weeks of deca and 16 weeks of eq,
 
DylanGemelli said:
deca is one of my favorite steroids period but what does it being 250 have to do with you not being able to dose it at 400 mg? can you not measure it on your syringe?? you dont need 500 mg week... thats when your likely to see sides from it that can easily be avoided... i also dont see the point in running this 16 weeks... thats up to you again but its not necessary and only goes for a longer more difficult recovery and your not going to get that much more from it at that point...
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i usually run 10weeks but eq is better to run longer, but my orignal plan is
weeks 1-16 sust 250 @ 750-1000mg I've done this before i know how my body reacts not my first time
weeks 1-16 eq @ 500 mg a week would do 600mg but it dosed at 250mg/ml and i would like to keep it simple
weeks 1-10 deca @ 500mg a week
 
LastSonOfKrypton518 said:
i usually run 10weeks but eq is better to run longer, but my orignal plan is
weeks 1-16 sust 250 @ 750-1000mg I've done this before i know how my body reacts not my first time
weeks 1-16 eq @ 500 mg a week would do 600mg but it dosed at 250mg/ml and i would like to keep it simple
weeks 1-10 deca @ 500mg a week
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10 weeks on deca is too short, in my experience. the decanoate ester has a half life of about 15 days. this equates to needing about 5-6 weeks before blood plasma levels are at a stable peak, leaving you with you 4-5 weeks left of cycle, with the effects of deca being present for a couple weeks after last injection(due to long half life).

i think deca should be run minumum 12 weeks, but ideally, 14-20 weeks to truly reap the benefits. it is a fairly slow acting steroid that needs time to get the steam rolling. the trade off is that it allows you to build quality muscle over time that you can keep.
 
LastSonOfKrypton518 said:
I've never ran deca, but I've ran tren numerous times both ace and eth, I've got a few cycles under my belt and i know how my body reacts for the most part, but I'm going to lay out my cycle see what improvements can be made
weeks 1-16 sust 250 (alpha pharma ) at 750mg or 1000mg (I've ran test this high before and have aromasin on hand
weeks 1-10 deca (alpha pharma) at 500mg (would do 400mg but it dosed at 250mg/ml (got prami and caber on hand)
1-16 eq (mostly singani but got some alpha too) at 500mg a week (i know 600 is better but its dosed at 250mg/ml)
then i cruise on phrama test cyp at 200mg a week.
oh i might add tbol or droll for the first 4 week not decided the tbol is pharmacom and the droll is maxtreme ( hell i thought about one day do droll the next tbol just to see what would happen

im 31 years old at 205lbs at 12% body fat and 5 foot 8 inches tall. just going to eat 6 big clean meals not counting carbs,fat or calories but protein I'm aim at 250g of protein a day, last time i did this i was over 4,000 calories, i should grow
if their is any improvement plz put your input in no matter how mean it is,
thank you
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One thing I can't wrap my head around is how why you are basing your doses on the concentrations. "EQ is 250mg per ml so I'll just run 500mg. I know 600 would be better" etc...

Do you even math bro? It's simple as fuck and you basically learn this shit in grade school. It's not hard to figure out what mg you want to run based on any concentration.


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if you cant figure out how to get 400 mg of deca dosed then you shouldnt be using steroids bro, no offense but its true, and like EVERYONE else said as well as myself, running deca 10 weeks makes no sense at all...
 
RickRock said:
One thing I can't wrap my head around is how why you are basing your doses on the concentrations. "EQ is 250mg per ml so I'll just run 500mg. I know 600 would be better" etc...

Do you even math bro? It's simple as fuck and you basically learn this shit in grade school. It's not hard to figure out what mg you want to run based on any concentration.


(PM me for a price list for Biotech Labs and 10% discount)
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I've done research on eq and everywhere says 600mg a week is the sweet spot and under that is a waste, have you read that? and i can do the math for 400mg of deca if its dosed at 250 mg/ml it 1.6 ml but i think it a lot simplier and easier to measure it in one ml? is that so wrong?
 
LastSonOfKrypton518 said:
I've done research on eq and everywhere says 600mg a week is the sweet spot and under that is a waste, have you read that? and i can do the math for 400mg of deca if its dosed at 250 mg/ml it 1.6 ml but i think it a lot simplier and easier to measure it in one ml? is that so wrong?
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actually 600 is not the sweet spot on eq, 800 mg is... you can run deca however you want man, but when you make it sound like it cant be done based on the concentration then people are going to correct it...
 
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