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8 month Injury comeback cycle

Background

Almost 40, 185cm, 97kg. Serious gym: 11 years.

Long story short, had a selfhealed fracture that keept me from training heavy since november. Soon to be reshaped by surgery so im out again until July. Aprox 8 month of absence from gym when you sum it up. Have been doing cardio and made some light training to fill my time so im still in desent shape, but the new upcoming period of 8 weeks no training will set me back once again.


Before injury, 101kg aprox 15% bodyfat +/- 1%. Deads 250kg, Squat 220kg and bench 170kg. Caloriemaintance for me are 3500 when training 5x week, weightstable at that. 97kg today and about the same fat %. My plan is to do a clean bulk, on the verge of recomp. Aiming at 4000-4500kcal. If my fat increase il adjust. (Doing bodyscan). Diet is moderate carb and high protein, fat. Im more of 80s diet then the modern carbload. I get bloated on to many carbs and blodsugar rise. Just the way some bodies handle carbs said the doc. I do tolerate it in normal range, so its not that. But at 6000 kcal bulk i hade a slight offset in longtime suger and it dropped afterwards. This diet is more like my ordinary day also, what i like to eat.

Training for for mass/estetics, not strenght. Brosplit 5x week.


The cycle

Tren is out, to harsh and cant sleep on that mf.

1-16 300mg Cyp (Past experience doesnt make my gains much better with higher test, just e2 rocket for me)
1-16 600mg EQ
1-16 300mg Deca (Loved it in every way from 250 to 500)
1 ---> Mk677 10mg ed. (Could go 20mg but the price increase for me doesnt add up to the benefits)
1-18 5mg Cialis ed
2-18 12.5mg Aromasin 2x week
2-18 .25mg Caber 2x week
18 ---> No pct just back to HRT.

Maybe add dbol somewhere in the cycle if the injury feels good and my tendons are in line, i get mad strenght from it. Already possess this thats why i dont look at Tbol. I laso feel really good on it.

At hand, letro and nolva to bail out gyno worst case scenario. I do drop blood halfway though and before so the HB/BP are in line.

Cardarine would be nice, but its expensive here so probebly will skip it.

I do respond well to DHT and feel good on mast, so im torn between that and EQ. I know EQ is a better builder but it doesnt make me feel great. I could also skip deca for mast but since the goal is mass i can see the bigger benefit of 19nor. Have no good source for legit primo, otherwise i would love to try it. Have source for DHB though, never tried it.

Thats it dudes, something you would do different?
I like the cycle
 
Why 16 weeks?

Just figured il stack up for 16 weeks and somewhere round week 14 il make a healthcheck. If i feel fine and results are ok then i guess it will be a resupply and go 20-22 weeks. Since im on TRT theres no rush to just off and i guess thats whats you think of?
 
Just figured il stack up for 16 weeks and somewhere round week 14 il make a healthcheck. If i feel fine and results are ok then i guess it will be a resupply and go 20-22 weeks. Since im on TRT theres no rush to just off and i guess thats whats you think of?
So no. For the reasons the guys said before. You're just coming back and not only might be better served waiting I'd add that WHEN you're ready 4 or more months on (nearly half a year at 22 weeks) doesn't sound right. Even if you're on TRT
 
So no. For the reasons the guys said before. You're just coming back and not only might be better served waiting I'd add that WHEN you're ready 4 or more months on (nearly half a year at 22 weeks) doesn't sound right. Even if you're on TRT

The plan is 16 weeks since its EQ, takes some time to shine. Done 20 weeks cycles before and did good. Would never go on without bloods though. I usually go lower dosage on long cycles that others.

But its indeed a long time m8, im with you.

First things first, the surgery and recovery ^^.

Still have the idea of mast or dhb instead of deca. EQ will give me the mass slow and steady, no deca sides to combat. Time will tell.
 
The plan is 16 weeks since its EQ, takes some time to shine. Done 20 weeks cycles before and did good. Would never go on without bloods though. I usually go lower dosage on long cycles that others.

But its indeed a long time m8, im with you.

First things first, the surgery and recovery ^^.

Still have the idea of mast or dhb instead of deca. EQ will give me the mass slow and steady, no deca sides to combat. Time will tell.
Let's see where you are in just 4 weeks time. But by all means get ready.
 
A little update. Surgery went real good, some weeks left before I can start with weights. I'm hopeful to recover 100%, it feels that way at least got almost all my range of motion back already. My god have i lost muscles this last month!, can hardly recognise myself. But it is what it is, I took a complete break from roids from the end of April since I was gonna be out anyway, took hcg/nolva/clomid,hcgenerate, blood work coming up to see my recovery but that's another story!


Anyway here's what iv stacked up as my comeback cycle.

1: Test, always test right? :). As mentioned I convert average or slight above, specially with higher dose it seems to ramp up. So il go with 250mg e5d as my base. 350 week should be enough. This dose have worked fine in the past. If EQ/mast gives me low E2 i will increase the dosage. Have dbol at hand for quick E2 boost.

2: EQ. My DHB source went out of the window and I don't want deca for the uberlong detection time and shutdown, and the prolactin doesnt require any actions from me either. I also want to give EQ another shoot, I'm not done with that one yet, we go for one more ride. 600mg week, divide in 2 shoots like test.

3: Masteron, boy i love this steroid. I know its not a bulker by any means, this sweet thing is all a feel good for me. Lower SHBG to let Test and Eq shine, lift my overall mood. Havent nailed the dosage yet, leaning towards 400mg week. Low dose for many I know, but for me it will do what It's supposed to. Won't add an AI to start, blood work 4 weeks in to adjust from there.

4: 10mg Cialis ed, BP and all other good stuff from it.

5: Mk677 10mg ed, I'm 40+, cant hurt to boost HGH and IGF1 levels. Have ran this alot and I like it.

6: Have both Adex and Aromasin at hand, won't use unless I have to. Blood work to see.

7: HCG. If my test values come back descent from my time off then my PCT have worked, and if so then i do want to come off again, and HCG through this cycle is a must. If my test levels are severely fucked after 4-6 month off I probably just accept my system is fried and stick to TRT.

8: Dbol. My liver handles it fine from past experience, get slightly elevated on 60mg, but it takes several weeks. Haven't used orals in a long time and my liver values are perfect. If I use it at all, it will be 20mg x2 daily, and it wont be before bloodwork and AI are set on test/EQ/mast. To many variables to have dbol from day one, and the fast strength won't be welcome before I'm ready for it. If its going reel good i may even skip it, this one time will tell. Add TUDCA if I take it.

I will train atleast 4-6 weeks clean before I even think about starting the cycle, get used to the weights again and feel if my fracture and joint is really holding up. If my body need more time then so be it, if i can't go 100% then there's no use for the roids yet.

So it basically looks like this, for 16 weeks.

Test 350
Eq 600
Mast 400
Mk/Cialis 10mg each
Dbol wild card?, wont use it the first 8 weeks thats for sure. Dial in AI before. 2x20mg if used.
Hcg?, depending on my recovery, its all in the text above.

Il be back!, as one man once said :). Every feedback are welcome.


Ohh and btw, do you guys use HCgenerate during cycles also? I have only used it this time for recovery, not during cycle.
 
Update: Will add CJC 1295 DAC, 1mg 2 times a week is my startdosage, should go well with mk677.Anyone done this?
 
Update: Will add CJC 1295 DAC, 1mg 2 times a week is my startdosage, should go well with mk677.Anyone done this?
I have not personally done it but ive seen them stacked a multitude of times with great success
 
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I have not personally done it but ive seen them stacked a multitude of times with great success


Will have to see then but it sounded nice when i read about it. What about HCGenerate, any hormone benefit using it on cycle or just a waste of money? I use it in PCT and continues it for some week longer then nolva/clomid for recovery.
 
Will have to see then but it sounded nice when i read about it. What about HCGenerate, any hormone benefit using it on cycle or just a waste of money? I use it in PCT and continues it for some week longer then nolva/clomid for recovery.
using a test booster can provided extra recovery benefit...
 
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