3 months Recovering from Post Finasteride Syndrome

[chelades]

What happens if your current lack of androgen capacity has already made you infertile? .....

With a low enough TRT dose you shouldn't need either. And bumping up your testosterone CAN improve your fertility. There are guys on cycle levels of test who even have the kids to prove it. Infertility is not a hard and fast rule of TRT.

Otherwise you can add in HCG/HMG when you need it.

 

[DylanGemelli]

What happens if your current lack of androgen capacity has already made you infertile? .....

With a low enough TRT dose you shouldn't need either. And bumping up your testosterone CAN improve your fertility. There are guys on cycle levels of test who even have the kids to prove it. Infertility is not a hard and fast rule of TRT.

Otherwise you can add in HCG/HMG when you need it.

absolutely... a protocol of hcg, hmg and clomid specifically has been proven to work... its what i am getting ready to start taking soon since we have not yet been successful on our own... thanks for posting this brother

 

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[wg594]

Thanks holyhead for making this thread i was unaware of the side effects of finasteride. I've got some coming in the mail thats now going straight into the trash.

 

[holyhead]

Thanks holyhead for making this thread i was unaware of the side effects of finasteride. I've got some coming in the mail thats now going straight into the trash.

For the love of god son don't touch one pill I would not lie to you..And I wouldn't have believed it if someone had told me this 3 years ago...You have no idea how cruel the side effects can be..I would have never dreamed of losing my health and body to something like this in a million years..You totally change and from the newest studies that are out and coming next year it is looking more likely that pfs sides the severe ones like physical changes I experienced are not only a cavalcade of hormonal imbalances but molecular changes at the cellular level to Androgen receptors and signaling..Your tissues don't come back online to androgens in the blood being processed improperly...One reason you don't Re bald to pre Finasteride levels..

This drug should be removed from the market yesterday and is basically more dangerous than all steroids it can destroy a healthy person's mind, body and life...

 

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[DylanGemelli]

LISTEN TO THESE GUYS DUDE... that shit is FUCKING POISON... you need to research PFS (post finasteride syndrome) throughly... i have had so many clients suffering in the worst ways with this... people DO NOT listen and think this is not reality or it only effects very few and that is NOT TRUE... this is an epidemic for users... DO NOT touch it

 

[chelades]

I thought I’d be fine cuz I have a crazy high libido, super strong erections, good physical shape, smart, overall above average dude. But finasteride doesn’t discriminate.

That is the ONLY reason I surmise PSSD hasn't affected me as heavily as it has others, and PFS sufferers.

Because when I was younger beforehand I was fighting at 11/10 as far as overall health and potency went. My erections were literally like steel and my libido was so high it was irrational.

And even then, it ruined my life STILL. I could definitely see how someone who was even the tiniest bit non-perfect to begin with, could be beyond ruined by it.

Even though I'm much better now, I've still never EVER got even close to that beforehand potency. Not even with Viagra or as many other things as you can rattle off. I'm still at around 7.5, 8/10.

I really wish we knew what it was that the stuff was doing, but, my worse fear is that to find out, is going to require real people taking it and undergoing a lot of tests to see what it is actually doing to the brain and tissues of the body. Feel sorry for those people.

 

[DylanGemelli]

That is the ONLY reason I surmise PSSD hasn't affected me as heavily as it has others, and PFS sufferers.

Because when I was younger beforehand I was fighting at 11/10 as far as overall health and potency went. My erections were literally like steel and my libido was so high it was irrational.

And even then, it ruined my life STILL. I could definitely see how someone who was even the tiniest bit non-perfect to begin with, could be beyond ruined by it.

Even though I'm much better now, I've still never EVER got even close to that beforehand potency. Not even with Viagra or as many other things as you can rattle off. I'm still at around 7.5, 8/10.

I really wish we knew what it was that the stuff was doing, but, my worse fear is that to find out, is going to require real people taking it and undergoing a lot of tests to see what it is actually doing to the brain and tissues of the body. Feel sorry for those people.

im sure you are aware but they have many people filing class action lawsuits... one of my clients that suffers from pfs is a PURE FUCKING GENIUS... he is in charge of the tech for several of the biggest casinos in vegas... he basically saved wrestlemania a few years ago and he is suffering like crazy... severe brain fog is one of the worst sides he gets... this shit is way past poison... it should be destroyed

 

[holyhead]

Yes doesn't matter your mental or physical capacity..I was an avid runner and very active..Ran 25 or more miles a week..Still have a food journal and weigh myself for over 10 years..Got weak and notice change in skin and hair first..Then my body I stopped the drug in the following months I became get sick and just kept swelling with strange watery like baby fat all over torso even arms....

I Now weigh over 220lbs have gained around 60lbs since stopping the med..Nmed..No explanation and the water gain is unreal I swell way worse every evening and terrible at night when I got home from work..Vassopressin involved????

No easy answers but I am getting new labs this month and will post these will be the third ones since starting treatment with gordon..Low dose TRT 40mg every third day..Combine with pregnenolone and dhea..I am supposed to take Clomid the same day as the test but stop the Clomid but nut as shrank.

Have improved mentally but not physically .

 

[DylanGemelli]

Yes doesn't matter your mental or physical capacity..I was an avid runner and very active..Ran 25 or more miles a week..Still have a food journal and weigh myself for over 10 years..Got weak and notice change in skin and hair first..Then my body I stopped the drug in the following months I became get sick and just kept swelling with strange watery like baby fat all over torso even arms....

I Now weigh over 220lbs have gained around 60lbs since stopping the med..Nmed..No explanation and the water gain is unreal I swell way worse every evening and terrible at night when I got home from work..Vassopressin involved????

No easy answers but I am getting new labs this month and will post these will be the third ones since starting treatment with gordon..Low dose TRT 40mg every third day..Combine with pregnenolone and dhea..I am supposed to take Clomid the same day as the test but stop the Clomid but nut as shrank.

Have improved mentally but not physically .

im TRULY sorry brother, i am... i have seen the horrible things this has caused so many... i wish i had some sort of answer for you on nhow to treat but i just do not

 

[holyhead]

Thanks Dylan I know you've seen this grief first hand..just wanted to follow up with that lab report from urologist in 2010 I got today..It only had total testosterone and get this it was 376..7 years ago i was at my peak and very active running daily..Very low so that is natural for me so mine didn't change much through this whole thing it looks like..So problem not low so much but raising it high really helps so seems to me would have to be processing problem...Receptors, brain who knows but I was expecting a much higher test number from 7 years ago..it was actually lower then than when I had pfs or now...Mystery.

 

[chelades]

im sure you are aware but they have many people filing class action lawsuits... one of my clients that suffers from pfs is a PURE FUCKING GENIUS... he is in charge of the tech for several of the biggest casinos in vegas... he basically saved wrestlemania a few years ago and he is suffering like crazy... severe brain fog is one of the worst sides he gets... this shit is way past poison... it should be destroyed

The brain fog is absolutely one of the worst and most frustrating things.

I remember a time when I went into work one morning (dragged myself in as I was exhausted from all this) and my buddy was like "morning man".

And I literally just couldn't even process a reply to what he was saying. He then saw me struggling and blank and said something like "dude what the F is the matter you not have breakfast or something, or big night?"

Yet again I tried to muster up a reply, which in itself was scaring the F outta me realising I could barely put a simple response into words, so I just laughed and shook my head, and by that time I'd been paused for so long he'd walked away.

That was probably the defining moment when I realised just how much this shit had effed me up. Couldn't think that straight for something so simple. Scary AF.

 

[holyhead]

Yeah dude I have given up on this...Still on protocol but I have argued with Gordon that my body has been destroyed..Its quite disgusting and distrubing what this condition causes and cannot be explained just by neuro steroids and hormones are normal..So I beginning to believe those that are saying your body is fighting or attacking its own 5ar or brain or some kind of auto immune condition has developed in these people..I now know that deathly sickness I expireinced after the crash and stopping the med was not testosterone falling..It actually goes up as merck claimed and then it pretty much normal..I was 376 total before pfs so it makes no sense but you are not hypogonadal.. TRT and clomid helps but why its really not that different or low..

Also awor androgen receptor theory is very promising and its my understanding the next baylor study will be focusing on this aspect and is supposed to be released next year..But they have said that before meanwhile people are suffering like dogs with only moderate relief through HRT but not addressing the real under lying problem it seems...My body is gone..Completley wrecked from this shit and the trt and clomid just jacks your test up way above normal pre fin levels..

 

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[holyhead]

If I quit fin and only got a numb dick I would suck Satan's dick to give thanks..Above poster has went to every forum known to man begging for help gonna see every Dr in the country, gonna see gold stein, gonna try Clomid, gonna try TRT , blah blah..u have not even attempted to get better or try anything but go these forums and run your mouth to other posters and talk down to them like over at propecia help..I wished honestly they would ban you....

 

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[holyhead]

I question if you even have pfs dude..I have spent thousands on actual tests and Drs and have at least tried to recover..And post actual results and labs to help others with data..What they do is up to them..I have not told them anything other than facts and my expirence no one kniws what this is..You have emailed me over and over and posted so many times thinking a Dr can cure u..Well try and see they can help but not cure..You thinking pfs is simple depression is 1st clue u have no idea what you are talking about..There is no known cure or actual treatment for this condition...Now go back to telling everybody else what they should do while you yourself have done nothing and post the same questions and useless dribble over and over like a broke record.....

 

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[holyhead]

Haha. You are so pathetic. It’s sad.
I wish you all the best. I’m recovering and will be good to go soon enough. Your comments are actually hilarious. Obviously I’m doing something right as I’m getting better after 6 months and foresee being back to normal in a year. Cuz I do the research, follow the advice and protocols. Consult doctors who believe it or not actually know something. You’ve been suffering for years because your a miserable man who CHOOSES to be miserable. Just stop bringing others down with you.

I messaged you a couple times and realized your a fool who hasn’t got better because your stuck in a cycle of depression and self loathing. I realized early your a plague to anyone trying to get better. All you do is offer despair.

I don’t need the forums anymore. I’m recovering. I wish you recover as well.

Good luck.

Need anymore proof this poster is 1 a troll and trolling members on various forums who suffer this condition..Then calling them names and even wishing ill will towards victims of pfs...He obviouslt has a mental condition as well and He should be banned..