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    Low dose test E (70-125 mg) + deca (200 mg)

    I already stated that in the OP: muscle gain without hair loss, by using deca to do most of the "work" and not test. Obviously the gains aren't going to be as good as with a "regular" cycle with more test, but let's face reality, such a cycle would yield more gains in 3 months than training...
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    Low dose test E (70-125 mg) + deca (200 mg)

    And yet, they still do. 75-100 mg is prescribed because it raises testosterone on average up to 350-750 ng/dl, as per the guideline you linked. Rarely, like in your case, it raises it to 1000 ng/dl. If this was the norm, the standard protocol would be lower. See also: You mean from people with...
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    Low dose test E (70-125 mg) + deca (200 mg)

    I'll also quote Tyrson from the PM he sent me, as this is interesting information: I'll have to do more research into RU-58841, but if this is true, it means one can use higher amounts of test (e.g. an average cycle, not the small one I'm proposing) and experience no hair loss (at areas where...
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    Low dose test E (70-125 mg) + deca (200 mg)

    I was wrong in saying TRT starts at 125 mg and goes up to 250 mg (I read that somewhere but didn't double-check it), but there are lots of people on TRT who are prescribed 150-200 mg per week, which is 50-100 mg more than this guideline recommends, and they were initially put on 100 mg. 100 mg...
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    Low dose test E (70-125 mg) + deca (200 mg)

    Those come with their own side effects, finasteride/dutasteride being terrible in this regard and I'd never use them or recommend to anyone, ever. Minoxidil is a no-go for me either, first because of the initial Minoxidil-induced shedding and second because you have to be on the stuff forever...
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    Low dose test E (70-125 mg) + deca (200 mg)

    Seems like my reply got deleted because I added a link. I'll write it again without the link: You are an exception then. That's why TRT doses start at 125 mg and go up to 250 mg, and even then the men aren't usually in the upper levels with 1000 ng/dl, but in the averages of 600 (or even lower)...
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    Low dose test E (70-125 mg) + deca (200 mg)

    You are probably an exception. Most people would be nowhere near that range with 100 mg per week, that's why TRT doses start at 125 mg and might go up to 250 mg, and even then they still aren't in the upper natural levels of 1000 ng/dl but in the averages of 600 ng/dl (or even lower) - that's...
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    Low dose test E (70-125 mg) + deca (200 mg)

    I'm compensating with deca for the low test dosage, i.e., deca will be the primary steroid responsible for muscle building. As you all know, there are people who do downright idiotic cycles with orals only and no test base, or even tren/deca with no test base, and they still gain muscle and keep...
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    Low dose test E (70-125 mg) + deca (200 mg)

    "Huge" is subjective and what I consider "huge" might be a small, mild or high dose for some of you regulars, as you correctly put it. Here is the thing: a 250 mg or bigger dose of test would raise my testosterone levels above 1,000 ng/dl, more than my natural levels of 700. Shit, 500 mg might...
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    Low dose test E (70-125 mg) + deca (200 mg)

    Well, there are steroids that are more androgenic and more likely to cause androgenic side effects and steroids which are less androgenic and not as likely to cause androgenic side effects. Deca and turinabol are not very androgenic and you are in fact more likely to get androgenic side effects...
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    Low dose test E (70-125 mg) + deca (200 mg)

    Why, just to see how my body reacts to the test itself? As I said previously, a test-only cycle is not an option due to the androgenicity and potential hair loss.
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    Low dose test E (70-125 mg) + deca (200 mg)

    I like to do my research thoroughly in order to understand the substances involved, the mechanics involved, side effects and the like. Is that a bad thing now? I understand it's not recommended and is even counter-productive to run deca/tren at doses >400 mg or more than the test base, HOWEVER...
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    Low dose test E (70-125 mg) + deca (200 mg)

    Train 5+ years naturally to get the same gains I would with one or two cycles in a single year. Have you forgotten how hard it is to gain muscle naturally once your "newbie gains" are over? I doubt it with proper PCT, diet and hCG usage during a cycle. 28, 5.10, 170 lbs, 9-10%, 2.5 years...
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    Low dose test E (70-125 mg) + deca (200 mg)

    But deca dick is due to prolactin levels increasing (actually that's a myth, it's due to progesterone/estrogen imbalance, you can get deca dick without elevated prolactin levels, but lowering the prolactin will lower the progesterone and thus the side effects), hence the need for cabergoline on...
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    Low dose test E (70-125 mg) + deca (200 mg)

    Hi Dylan, I'm wondering what you think of someone using such low doses of exogenous test for the sole purpose of your body having some testosterone (i.e. within natty levels, possibly even on the lower average spectrum of 400 ng/dl or so) while using using 200 mg of deca. Before you ask "why?"...
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