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What would you do?

I have read a lot of guys saying you must run the tren higher than your test dose so i was working my way up with the tren till it surpassed my 500mg test dose. I was running prami but still got bad with the tren dick.. i have lots of joint pain so thats why the deca in this new cycle and also have caber on the way. Im good with the different aas just have to keep the dose low thats kind of leading to run the cycle longer and lower dose. Really trying to reformulated this best way to do this though. Really appreciatethe help.

There is no MUST about that it's just preference. I prefer mine lower personally.


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I have done months of research. I have test many combination on myself and know how i react. 500mg of test is not outrageous for me has my test at about 1800. No side except thick blood but its still in range.

Months of research and you think it's okay to do var for weeks on end?
 
To answer your question in short...yes probably many of us.
What is your question?
You have to be careful when running both because they are both nandrolones, and if doses are too high then prolactin problems, which can become tough to fight without prevention. So say you did as I posted for you 400 deca and 400 tren. You have to add the two up. That is 800mgs nandrolones, so you absoutley need to have caber, total nandros of 500-600.

Still I am guessing as to what your question is.

I honestly think u gotta be careful with doing deca+tren tho... In my experience I did test/tren/npp and I hated the sides and my sex drive SUCKED. It was awful. I used caber to but it was just something about the combination that didn't work well for me
 
I have read a lot of guys saying you must run the tren higher than your test dose so i was working my way up with the tren till it surpassed my 500mg test dose. I was running prami but still got bad with the tren dick.. i have lots of joint pain so thats why the deca in this new cycle and also have caber on the way. Im good with the different aas just have to keep the dose low thats kind of leading to run the cycle longer and lower dose. Really trying to reformulated this best way to do this though. Really appreciatethe help.

Just giving you what I'm currently experiencing.

Test E at 750mg/wk
Tren A at 420mg/wk
NPP at 280mg/wk

I was originally at 1000mg/wk on test and it just felt too high.

I feel amazing. Plenty of energy, no sides except excessive sweating, insomnia, and some stamina loss. Started an EC stack four days ago and that really helped at the gym for stamina. Ambien for the insomnia. and showers to combat the sweat. haha

I've ran it where my test was lower than my tren and I hated it. just felt miserable overall. I think it was like 250 test e and 500 tren ace. never again for me
 
Just giving you what I'm currently experiencing.

Test E at 750mg/wk
Tren A at 420mg/wk
NPP at 280mg/wk

I was originally at 1000mg/wk on test and it just felt too high.

I feel amazing. Plenty of energy, no sides except excessive sweating, insomnia, and some stamina loss. Started an EC stack four days ago and that really helped at the gym for stamina. Ambien for the insomnia. and showers to combat the sweat. haha

I've ran it where my test was lower than my tren and I hated it. just felt miserable overall. I think it was like 250 test e and 500 tren ace. never again for me

Thanks brother. With my stack do have any other suggestions. Should i keep my test higher than the deca and the tren combined. Really good advice though. i have heard both side of the argument i think i learned my lesson last time.
 
Like i said i have see numerous people talk similarly about stacks with var run for 12 weeks. Lots of info on how its really easy on the liver in comparison to everyother orals. For me i have use it in the past and gone all the way upto 100mg a day with no liver issues. I feel 25mgs a day with low dose tren will not stress my liver to hard. I will take some liv 52 and get my liver enzymes tested at 12 weeks.
 
I honestly think u gotta be careful with doing deca+tren tho... In my experience I did test/tren/npp and I hated the sides and my sex drive SUCKED. It was awful. I used caber to but it was just something about the combination that didn't work well for me

How would you run it differently. Any other suggestions as to dose maybe deca at only 100? Really want to try it dor the joint support.
 
How would you run it differently. Any other suggestions as to dose maybe deca at only 100? Really want to try it dor the joint support.

I'm my experience I wouldn't recommend deca+tren together. But maybe try test/deca/mast that sounds better to me honestly. I'm actually about to start a test/npp/mast run next weekend ;)
 
If you do decide on deca and tren together (which I would be very careful with) I would do very low doses of each. Like 100 each MAXIMUM... Or 200 deca/75 tren... Something like that. Just my 2 cents. What you have proposed is too much in my opinion. That could turn out very bad with or without caber and an AI.


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Like i said i have see numerous people talk similarly about stacks with var run for 12 weeks. Lots of info on how its really easy on the liver in comparison to everyother orals. For me i have use it in the past and gone all the way upto 100mg a day with no liver issues. I feel 25mgs a day with low dose tren will not stress my liver to hard. I will take some liv 52 and get my liver enzymes tested at 12 weeks.

That's dumb bro. It really is. It's not even worth risking considering how weak anavar is when you're running so many other awesome steroids. Anavar will just add pointless stress to the liver with no results to show for.


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That's dumb bro. It really is. It's not even worth risking considering how weak anavar is when you're running so many other awesome steroids. Anavar will just add pointless stress to the liver with no results to show for.


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I have done months of research. I have test many combination on myself and know how i react. 500mg of test is not outrageous for me has my test at about 1800. No side except thick blood but its still in range.


months of research is NOTHING... anavar good for the joints? okay, just wait until you see the pain you get from using it... anavar probably causes some of the worst pumps of any oral out there... wait until you see and feel that and tell me its protecting joints... it puts you in fucking pain... and if you truly think any oral should be ran over 6 weeks, your going to learn and very and i mean VERY unpleasant lesson that i would really like to see you avoid...
 
i want to help you here, i do but im having a hard time that you flat out wont listen about anavar use... its basically impossible to help someone that wont listen... i dont care what you were told, NO ORAL SHOULD BE RAN THAT LONG PERIOD... anavar is mild IN COMPARISON to other harsher orals but by no means is it mild in general... it will shut you down, it will cause a lot of toxicity issues and it will cause excruciating pumps etc.. there's a lot there and running orals that long is flat out reckless and i dont operate that way nor advise it whatsoever... you also need to be very careful stacking two nandrolones... i just learned the hard way myself... i had to completely drop deca when using it with tren... i was only doing 300 of each and it was too much... so i just stuck with tren since i had been on deca so long... i'll add it back in when im done with tren...

if your going to run primo, then run it right... please DO NOT waste the best steroid out there... run it 14-16 weeks at 800 mg week and run it like its supposed to be ran... what is your main goal from this cycle?
 
Frustrating.
After my accident I lost weight but gained BF. In a bit over two weeks I got back to normal with just 200 of each...cyp/deca/trenE. Luckily Dylan pointed out to me that my total nandros were high n my original plan. My starting point of sides is about 600, so I backed off of dose. PLUS...if you are sincere then you need NOTHING bro. Just weights and a treadmill.

Let me show you a pic of a 23 year old boxer who did not lift weights or take anything. He only boxed. But did push ups and chin ups and dips ad nauseum. Seems everyone wants a magical solution like drb wrote about. It ain't dere bro. DSC01196.jpg
 
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