Hi Dylan I have been lifting for 2 years. I'm 19 and I have been on trt since I was 18. I get my injection every 10-12 weeks with a substance called nebido I was wondering that when I start my first proper cycle at the age of 20/21 would it be okay to run it for 10 weeks then get my injection on the 12th week or as soon as I've finished my cycle to get my injection on the 11th week. I know I won't need pct because I will probably be on trt for the rest of my life! For my first cycle I was gonna run test c 500mgs and deca 200-300mgs as I already know how my body responds to test. Any advice from you would be great as I like your honesty and respect your opinion.
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buen
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Hi bro....I would be glad to help you with your TRT...I have 15 years using and researching TRT
I have used every TRT protocol conceivable... including nebido
Can you please tell me about your hypogonadism
I assume you are under the care of an endocrinologist
Is you hypogonadism primary or secondary
What is your total testosterone level using nebido
buen is very versed here and i would absolutely respond to him as well.. why exactly are you on trt at 18? i am not recommending any blasts for you at this age, not at all... i need to know more info as to why this is even occurring...
You need to forget about the idea of blasting at 20 or 21, but first of all I'm with the others here on wanting to know what caused you to go on trt at such an early age
absolutely agree
Hi I was put on trt because I suffered with bad depression for quite some years and my test was that of a old man. I don't know why? possibly because I was so depressed test naturally lower? They never tried to bring it back up with hcg or anything like that they basically put my straight on nebido. Im 19 now and feel much better. Ive never had any side effects but I gained a lot of weight quick at first with very little water and barely any fat. I'm not to sure what my testosterone is at now as he did tests but I've not seen him for a few months. I'm not gonna do any cycles until this is sorted and they know what dosages I need to keep me optimal. Any advice would be great guys. Josh 
ps I won't be doing any cycles untill I'm older and know everything. I know a lot now but u can never learn enough
ps I won't be doing any cycles untill I'm older and know everything. I know a lot now but u can never learn enough
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im really sorry you had to suffer this issue man. honestly brother, the best thing to do is follow your doctors guidance at this time.. you should not be messing with your hormones whatsoever... you absolutely do not want to make things worse than they already are my man... i DO NOT and WILL NOT allow you to hurt yourself... you sound like a really really good person and i dont want that for you !Hi I was put on trt because I suffered with bad depression for quite some years and my test was that of a old man. I don't know why? possibly because I was so depressed test naturally lower? They never tried to bring it back up with hcg or anything like that they basically put my straight on nebido. Im 19 now and feel much better. Ive never had any side effects but I gained a lot of weight quick at first with very little water and barely any fat. I'm not to sure what my testosterone is at now as he did tests but I've not seen him for a few months. I'm not gonna do any cycles until this is sorted and they know what dosages I need to keep me optimal. Any advice would be great guys. Josh
buen
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Hi I was put on trt because I suffered with bad depression for quite some years and my test was that of a old man. I don't know why? possibly because I was so depressed test naturally lower? They never tried to bring it back up with hcg or anything like that they basically put my straight on nebido. Im 19 now and feel much better. Ive never had any side effects but I gained a lot of weight quick at first with very little water and barely any fat. I'm not to sure what my testosterone is at now as he did tests but I've not seen him for a few months. I'm not gonna do any cycles until this is sorted and they know what dosages I need to keep me optimal. Any advice would be great guys. Josh
first off..sorry bro..I know depression can be debilitating
Depression absolutely can cause low testosterone levels...BUT....you should be treating the depression....not its symptoms (low testosterone)
I think you would be well served by getting a second opinion from a qualified endocrinologist and consult with a psychologist
Nebido is less than an idea protocol for treating hypogonadism..the most likely reason you dr has prescribed it is because he is injecting you in the office...the dr feels it's easier on you to only visit every 10-12 weeks
BUT...your testosterone level raises and fall pretty dramatically in that period..causing a "roller coaster effect"
I suggest you talk to your Dr about you injecting yourself weekly with Testosterone Cyp to keep your levels more stable
The last thing you need to be doing is running any addition test or other steroids (cycle) that elevate your hormones above natural physiological levels..with your condition you can really mess things up...causing yourself a world of pain
Depression can also be a symptom of low test, so the opposite of what was just said, if you go on YouTube and look up "bigknowno" or something, I forget exactly but his name is Noah and he tells his story about how he was severely depressed and the doctors tried to figure out why, tried to treat him and he just never responded, he had sexual issues and was overweight. Eventually one doctor tested his hormones and found his test was very very low so he got put on trt and that fixed every issue he had. So you may be the same, low test, causing depression. If you feel better now then that was probably it. But again, I'd listen to your doctor as he is a doctor of course and should know what he's doing.
buen
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No... that's not the criteria
You first need to be diagnosed properly...determine that you are hypogonadal... not displaying low test from other factors...mineral deficiency...drug use...depression..a hundred other TREATABLE causes
If you are hypogonadal ....it is either primary ( your testes don't work)
Or secondary .... you have a problem with your pituitary ....secondary may be treatable depending on what is causing the pituatary malfunction
The ONLY way to properly diagnose hypogonadism is by a Dr that follows a complete diagnostic tree
Ya most doctors these days don't seem to follow that protocol, being on trt for a year now he may not even be able to fix the issue. The doctor should've tried harder to find out why he was having issues. I never said that him being on trt was the right way to go about it but if him being on trt fixed the depression then the depression was probably caused by the low T. An endocrinologist will be far more useful in this department than just a regular family doctor
Hi guys thank you so much for caring and to take the time out of your day to help me out I had depression for many years and it was bad they tried all sorts of things like anti depressants, counselling etc. and in the end I looked online to why I could be feeling so low and one of the things that pop up was low test so I asked for a blood test. The test came back it was low (like really low) and they put me straight on test. At first it was pills called anadrol I think. but that did not last long because it did not help much and they were toxic and he did not want me on them at all. He changed me up to nebido for the time being and I feel miles better, still not 100% but good. I should be seeing my endocrinologist again soon and he has my test results of my time on nebido and I can image if my testosterone does not stay optimal he will change the compound to test cyp or another form. By the end of the year it should hopefully be sorted which will be great. Oh yeah also even when I did not know I had low test and was really depressed I've always been quite lean broad and muscular which is odd but maybe it's my genetics? Again guys thank you for helping me out and anymore advice would be great as you've all be very helpful so far josh
I had depression for many years and it was bad they tried all sorts of things like anti depressants, counselling etc. and in the end I looked online to why I could be feeling so low and one of the things that pop up was low test so I asked for a blood test. The test came back it was low (like really low) and they put me straight on test. At first it was pills called anadrol I think. but that did not last long because it did not help much and they were toxic and he did not want me on them at all. He changed me up to nebido for the time being and I feel miles better, still not 100% but good. I should be seeing my endocrinologist again soon and he has my test results of my time on nebido and I can image if my testosterone does not stay optimal he will change the compound to test cyp or another form. By the end of the year it should hopefully be sorted which will be great. Oh yeah also even when I did not know I had low test and was really depressed I've always been quite lean broad and muscular which is odd but maybe it's my genetics? Again guys thank you for helping me out and anymore advice would be great as you've all be very helpful so far joshSimilar threads
