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TRT experiment

Jake

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If you remember drb and I had a trt experiment going with three guys. One did subQ, one did IM and one did into fat. We have two Doctors in our family and guess what? They both are well versed on steroids...go figga huh?

Well while drb was in he had his natty test done which was at 700. Mine hangs around 640. Keep in mind that he is almost 67 and I am 44. But I digress...all three guys in the experiment had their tests in the 400-500 range, so it appears there is no significance. Surprized the hell out me! The IM guy did his 120 at once/week, and the other two did 0.2cc/x3/week.
On a side note-The doc said that she has to follow clinic rules that allow her to give a man as much as needed to get him to 500-600. No more than that.

Now with another bud who wants to do trt...he did a 16 week cycle of 450cyp and 800eq. I had him write down the weights he used for arm curl, and bent barbell rows, and squats. Now after pct is over I told him to let me know when he could no longer handle the weights he used while on cycle.It took about 2 more weeks after pct for him to lower weight. From there I have him doing increments of 100mg cyp/week until he can handle those weights again. So if it happens to be 400mg then I will back him down until those weights just become a problem, and that is where his dose will be. Then after a month we are to get his bloods done.Will keep you posted. Hopefully this may be a really good way to determine your dose. If it is 300,then so be it..as long as his bloods are up to a good level.

Once we have it all squared away for him, then he is going to go on the triple sarms stack, and see if he can lower his test dose, by following the weight usage protocol.
Work in progress buds! Just wanted to let you know about these experiments. Should be good knowledge for everyone to absorb.
 
That's very interesting that there wasn't a difference between IM and SubQ, but that is pretty much what I was expecting. More valid reason to stay with the tried and true Test C injection I use once per week intra muscular
 
Ive been doing subcu for a few months now. It is much better for me.
My research helped me make the choice.
Believe it or not my decision came after reading woman to man transgender studies.
Subcu cuts down on scar tissue but one must use less per injection since the blood levels can go up faster.
 
That's very interesting that there wasn't a difference between IM and SubQ, but that is pretty much what I was expecting. More valid reason to stay with the tried and true Test C injection I use once per week intra muscular

Yeah..I agree. All these years of jamming that 21-22g 1.5 needle for naught! I am going to the 25 x5/8 now.
 
If you remember drb and I had a trt experiment going with three guys. One did subQ, one did IM and one did into fat. We have two Doctors in our family and guess what? They both are well versed on steroids...go figga huh?

Well while drb was in he had his natty test done which was at 700. Mine hangs around 640. Keep in mind that he is almost 67 and I am 44. But I digress...all three guys in the experiment had their tests in the 400-500 range, so it appears there is no significance. Surprized the hell out me! The IM guy did his 120 at once/week, and the other two did 0.2cc/x3/week.
On a side note-The doc said that she has to follow clinic rules that allow her to give a man as much as needed to get him to 500-600. No more than that.

Now with another bud who wants to do trt...he did a 16 week cycle of 450cyp and 800eq. I had him write down the weights he used for arm curl, and bent barbell rows, and squats. Now after pct is over I told him to let me know when he could no longer handle the weights he used while on cycle.It took about 2 more weeks after pct for him to lower weight. From there I have him doing increments of 100mg cyp/week until he can handle those weights again. So if it happens to be 400mg then I will back him down until those weights just become a problem, and that is where his dose will be. Then after a month we are to get his bloods done.Will keep you posted. Hopefully this may be a really good way to determine your dose. If it is 300,then so be it..as long as his bloods are up to a good level.

Once we have it all squared away for him, then he is going to go on the triple sarms stack, and see if he can lower his test dose, by following the weight usage protocol.
Work in progress buds! Just wanted to let you know about these experiments. Should be good knowledge for everyone to absorb.

This is the type of talk that keeps me intrigued. The science behind this "game" we play. Very nice post jake! Keep us updated
 
im extremely intrigued... i want to thank you for conducting this experiment for everyone because as you can see, this is a prevalent question on the comparative methods so a first hand test with these variables is perfect for an accurate gauge on the question... please keep this updated brother... THANK YOU for doing this for everyone...
 
Well sub q doesn't necessarily make you prone to abcess it's just about ratios. Like what the real tolerance is too of what you are doing....

Honestly. A good way to think of it is like .1ml of sub q is equivalent to 1ml IM.

Seriously. You go over .3ml sub q chances are you are gonna have an issue lol. Just like going over 3cc IM.

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i may want to talk with you on this because its one i have been wanting to try this... we'll have to rap on this soon
Ya brother hit me up anytime. you've seen my cycles. I find the sub q method gives my IM sites a much much needed break.

I'd also say be careful of the concentration you sub q guys. I found certain contents make it a little more difficult than others. I wouldn't mess with anything above 200mg/ml when it comes to test. Avoid the crazy concentrations. Something like t400 or sust would be all bad...

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