TRT and steroids

[djk4yah]

Hi Dylan,

What is the best way to keep your gains after an anabolic cycle, like Dianabol or whilst I am permanently on TRT (sustanon 250 x 4 every two weeks) so that's 1 gram every two weeks. I am 45 years old and have been on TRT for 1 year now.
Is it worth it for me to do a cycle of dianabol or am I better off just putting up in my trt dose by 100 or so milligrams for 12 weeks?

So far after some research, the only information I'm getting is that HGH after an anabolic cycle is the only way to keep your gains.
If this is the case how long do you take the HGH for? Hopefully not too long as it's quite expensive.

Lastly, whilst on the anabolic cycle, should I lower my TRT dose to say 500 milligrams every two weeks then back to 1 gram every two weeks post cycle or just stick to what I'm already on?

On 1 gram of sustanon 250 every two weeks my testosterone levels are around 1200 ng/dl, is it ok to stay at these levels permanently?
I take anastrozole to keep my estradiol in check.

 

[cmb5017]

Your Dr has you on 500 mgsa week trt? Fuck man that's a moderate cycle...very dangerous in the long run.

 

[Maxadvance]

No way he does a full mil each shot on Doctors orders, that being said I don't know many scrips filled with Sust 250. 90% are compounded Test Cyp 200 gso, or Depo test 100 and 200 by Watson. Maybe .5ml per shot and he misspoke. Maybe

 

[buen]

On 1 gram of sustanon 250 every two weeks my testosterone levels are around 1200 ng/dl, is it ok to stay at these levels permanently?
I take anastrozole to keep my estradiol in check.

mmmm....If you are taking 500mg per week and your total testosterone level is only raised to 1200ng/dL.....there are other issues going on
I would advise a full and comprehensive work up by and Endocrinologist specializing in mens health

To answer your question...yes you can stay at 1200ng long term..BUT you are at the tip top of range and it leaves you no room in the future to run higher if need be.... 900ng is healthier over the course of many years

Your dosing is HIGHLY unusual ...was it from a GP or Endocrinologist?
can you please post a photo of your prescription (with your personal data blacked out of course)

 

[buen]

I don't know many scrips filled with Sust 250. 90% are compounded Test Cyp 200 gso, or Depo test 100 and 200 by Watson.

Sustanon 250 is a very common TRT prescription in Asia, England and Europe....usually Oragon

 

[Maxadvance]

Sustanon 250 is a very common TRT prescription in Asia, England and Europe....usually Oragon

Yeah that was going thru my mind, dude might from Europe

 

[buen]

Hi Dylan,

What is the best way to keep your gains after an anabolic cycle,
So far after some research, the only information I'm getting is that HGH after an anabolic cycle is the only way to keep your gains.
If this is the case how long do you take the HGH for? Hopefully not too long as it's quite expensive.

don't know where you are getting this info...IT IS TOTALLY FALSE

HGH for health and longevity is continuous use

Bro...if you cant keep your gains with a test level of 1200ng....your diet and training are shit
diet and training are how you MAKE gains...diet and training are how you KEEP gains

 

[buen]

You need to post your COMPLETE stats;

Age
Height
Weight
Body fat %
Years of training
Complete cycle history (compounds, doses, lengths of time, when they were run)
PCT for each cycle
Goals
Supplements (if any)
General idea of nutrition

 

[DylanGemelli]

bro im sorry but there are far too many holes here... someone that has no clue on trt, etc. would not know the amount of bad info but thats going to go by on me... either your doctor is the most negligent fuck alive or you are being dishonest... either way, no doctor is going to proscribe 500 mg per week of test, im sorry but thats not happening... you are ding sever long term damages running your trt that high.... trt doses should NEVEr exceed 200 mg week... i certainly hope that at 500 mg week you are using an AI? if so, which ones are you using? did your doctor put you on this number or did YOU put yourself on it...

 

[djk4yah]

You need to post your COMPLETE stats;

Age
Height
Weight
Body fat %
Years of training
Complete cycle history (compounds, doses, lengths of time, when they were run)
PCT for each cycle
Goals
Supplements (if any)
General idea of nutrition

I'm 46yrs old.
5'10.
285lbs.
30 years weight training.
Supplements: multi vitamins, vitamin D3, Amazing Grass super green food, creatine, fish oil and choline and inositol for liver support.
Never done steroids or sarms, only Just thought of doing it now as I am on TRT, have been on it for one year now.
I am seeing a private endocrinologist in London, UK. I started of with 250mg one shot of sustanon 250 every two weeks, IM, a month later i went up to 500mg then two months later up to 750mg then three months later up to 1 gram every two weeks. I take 0.5mg of Arimidex (anastrozole) on mon, wed and fridays. My estradiol is within normal range. I did have a high red blood count seven months ago but I went Dr's advice and gave blood in the hospital and that has seemed to solve the problem for now. Other than that my blood work is ok.
My Dr is very liberal and is open to short-term experimentation. This is a big relief for me as I had quite a difficult time on the NHS and my GP beforehand.

So I'm looking to do my first cycle/blast, I'm not looking to enter any competitions, just want to stay jacked up all year round.
I want to do the best cycle/blast that will allow me the best chance of making and keeping my gains.
Whilst on my TRT dose, I was thinking of running Dianabol for 6 weeks and then LGD after that to help keep most of the Dbol gains and then back to just my TRT dose for a couple of months until my next cycle/blast.

Any advice/info would be much appreciated!

 

[djk4yah]

I call bullshit on the 500mg week trt... That's a full blown cycle. Your lives getting cut short running that long term. Dangerous.

mmmm....If you are taking 500mg per week and your total testosterone level is only raised to 1200ng/dL.....there are other issues going on
I would advise a full and comprehensive work up by and Endocrinologist specializing in mens health

To answer your question...yes you can stay at 1200ng long term..BUT you are at the tip top of range and it leaves you no room in the future to run higher if need be.... 900ng is healthier over the course of many years

Your dosing is HIGHLY unusual ...was it from a GP or Endocrinologist?
can you please post a photo of your prescription (with your personal data blacked out of course)

Yeah I understand...thanks!
Keep in mind that there is only 176mg of testosterone per 250mg of Sustanon 250. So I'm actually on 704mg of test every two weeks...352mg per week.

 

[djk4yah]

I call bullshit on the 500mg week trt... That's a full blown cycle. Your lives getting cut short running that long term. Dangerous.

Keep in mind that there is only 176mg of testosterone per 250mg of Sustanon 250. So I'm actually on 704mg of test every two weeks...352mg per week.

 

[buen]

Keep in mind that there is only 176mg of testosterone per 250mg of Sustanon 250. So I'm actually on 704mg of test every two weeks...352mg per week.

everyone references the injected testosterone regardless of the ester involved..so "the actual amount of test it contains" isn't reliant..we all know how much it contains

ALL ENROCRINOLOGICAL SOCIETIES AROUND THE WORLD HAVE THE SAME RECOMMENDED PROTOCAL....200MG EVERY TWO WEEKS..YOU ARE TAKING 5 TIMES THAT !!!

I'm telling you something is SERIOUSLY wrong!!!
If a normal TRT dose isn't bringing your test into reference range..adding more and more is insane..you need to search out WHY!

You have extremely high body fat....you are already taking the same dose as a normal bodybuilder in superior shape would use while on cycle

I'm flabbergasted you think ADDING more test and/other steroids will doing anything other than FUCK UP YOUR HEALTH even further

you need to come down to earth...steroids don't burn fat..don't get you in shape...DIET AND TRAINING DO !!!

TRT is used to bring your testosterone level to NORMAL......just because you use testosterone to do that..does not qualify you to do a cycle
Don't be a fool
Start eating a calorie deficient diet and get to the gym..train hard and do tons of cardio..steroids aren't magic pills to "help you on your way"..there are used AFTER you have obtained a superior physical condition

 

[buen]

post your total testosterone level from running this "TRT" 1G every 2 weeks

you also conveniently fogot got to tell us you BF%
a photo would be very helpful

 

[DTA707]

I'm 46yrs old.
5'10.
285lbs.
30 years weight training.
Supplements: multi vitamins, vitamin D3, Amazing Grass super green food, creatine, fish oil and choline and inositol for liver support.
Never done steroids or sarms, only Just thought of doing it now as I am on TRT, have been on it for one year now.
I am seeing a private endocrinologist in London, UK. I started of with 250mg one shot of sustanon 250 every two weeks, IM, a month later i went up to 500mg then two months later up to 750mg then three months later up to 1 gram every two weeks. I take 0.5mg of Arimidex (anastrozole) on mon, wed and fridays. My estradiol is within normal range. I did have a high red blood count seven months ago but I went Dr's advice and gave blood in the hospital and that has seemed to solve the problem for now. Other than that my blood work is ok.
My Dr is very liberal and is open to short-term experimentation. This is a big relief for me as I had quite a difficult time on the NHS and my GP beforehand.

So I'm looking to do my first cycle/blast, I'm not looking to enter any competitions, just want to stay jacked up all year round.
I want to do the best cycle/blast that will allow me the best chance of making and keeping my gains.
Whilst on my TRT dose, I was thinking of running Dianabol for 6 weeks and then LGD after that to help keep most of the Dbol gains and then back to just my TRT dose for a couple of months until my next cycle/blast.

Any advice/info would be much appreciated!

You're on your first cycle/blast. If you can't stay jacked on 500mg ew something (other than the obvious) is very wrong

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