To PCT or to TRT

[RickRock]

I think I am going the TRT route my doc recommends it also.

Good plan buddy. It's the same route I would take if I were in your shoes


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[Guarionex]

Good plan buddy. It's the same route I would take if I were in your shoes


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Even on TRT, I would add some proviron to boost the free test number.

 

[RickRock]

Even on TRT, I would add some proviron to boost the free test number.

Proviron is not a bad addition. I know a lot of people love it. I ran it with trt and didn't notice anything any different, but like I said a lot of people love the stuff and swear by it


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[cbbram00]

Even on TRT, I would add some proviron to boost the free test number.

Just be aware if you have prostate issues Proviron is not a good idea. I didn't really know I had prostate issues until I popped a few Proviron.... You'll know right away trust me. For me the benefits vs side effects was a no go. Everyone will tell you Proviron is mild but it's DHT in a pill. If you have prostate problems DHT is the enemy.

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[Dangans]

Good plan buddy. It's the same route I would take if I were in your shoes


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thx Rick for your input

 

[SaladTossingBitch]

Same here, I actually have allot vermodje I haven't used. Didn't notice anything.

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[SaladTossingBitch]

I bet. Vultures!

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Would not want them to go to waste lol

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[Trenrage]

If people can't keep gains after PCT, then they need to reevaluate their pct, training, and diet tactics.

Cruising doesn't guarantee a damn thing, and you absolutely positively will still lose some coming off a blast. It's common sense and basic physiology


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I believe you can't keep steroid gains. Especially if you're jacked as a mf on cycle you sure and hell won't stay like that off cycle. Say on cycle you're 220lbs + @ 6% bodyfat you won't maintain that naturally

 

[Testdude63]

I believe you can't keep steroid gains. Especially if you're jacked as a mf on cycle you sure and hell won't stay like that off cycle. Say on cycle you're 220lbs + @ 6% bodyfat you won't maintain that naturally

You won't hold EVERYTHING, however, given diet is on point and training intensity remain high, your body will be able to keep more than your natural levels. Muscle doesn't just catabolize rapidly due to not having the same amount of drugs in your system (given your test is in an optimal high/normal range). That said, battling through the shift in energy from not being on and keeping diet up is very difficult for most. If you keep intensity high and train hard, you can keep a lot of the gains.

 

[RickRock]

I believe you can't keep steroid gains. Especially if you're jacked as a mf on cycle you sure and hell won't stay like that off cycle. Say on cycle you're 220lbs + @ 6% bodyfat you won't maintain that naturally

I think it depends on where you are in relation to genetic potential. If you are way beyond it, then there's no way you'll hold it naturally. You'll shrink back to genetic limit. If you are below genetic limit you can keep a good percentage of your gains....so there's no cut and dry answer. Bigger you get the more is required to hold that level of mass. That's why pros cruise at higher doses. They have to for the amount of mass they carry

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