testosterone preferences

[Childsplay]

So just wanted to know how the difference test is favored by all. As far as long esters E and C any difference with gyno, acne,heard a lot of (bro science) as Dylan would say. Also would like to hear of the short and mixed esters preferences.

 

[RickRock]

Re: RE: testosterone preferences

So just wanted to know how the difference test is favored by all. As far as long esters E and C any difference with gyno, acne,heard a lot of (bro science) as Dylan would say. Also would like to hear of the short and mixed esters preferences.

I prefer Test C myself because it goes perfectly with my TRT when I go into cruise mode, enabling a single injection per week due to the 8 day half life.

Regardless of all the misinformation out there, the only difference between these are the esters and certainly spending half-life/ pinning schedule. Side effects should all be the same. Water and estrogen will be controlled the same no matter which test you use. There may be a little more PIP with a shorter ester, but overall effects and side effects should be consistent across the board given a specific dose of testosterone, no matter which ester is used

 

[cmb5017]

There is s big difference between any ester. I dont care what anybody says. Its all user specific though. Here is. How I base them based on how they react to my body.
cyp is the best. Low acne low water retention and no pip
Enanthate sucks. High acne high water retention. So bad to me I stopped using it altogether.
Sustanon best mass builder. Pip is moderate. Its worse if u dose more than one cc.
Prop sucks ass. Pip is very high. Will not use it as a test base.
blended test sucks ass. High pip. Never know what ur true dosage is. Best not to use it.
test deconate and iso has longer half life than any of them. And probably better all around. However ive not used it as a single compound before. Its already an ingredient of sustanon abd because sustanon is superior in mass I have reason to believe its probably superior to cyp. Ill be running it as a solo compound probably next year to find out for myself. All short esters have bad pip (for me) I hate them. Thats why I always reccomend people to run a test only cycle with a few different esters so u can find the one that best suits you. The one that yields best results vs sides. Then youll know your (go to) test for every cycle afterwards

 

[cbbram00]

Re: RE: Re: testosterone preferences

There is s big difference between any ester. I dont care what anybody says. Its all user specific though. Here is. How I base them based on how they react to my body.
cyp is the best. Low acne low water retention and no pip
Enanthate sucks. High acne high water retention. So bad to me I stopped using it altogether.
Sustanon best mass builder. Pip is moderate. Its worse if u dose more than one cc.
Prop sucks ass. Pip is very high. Will not use it as a test base.
blended test sucks ass. High pip. Never know what ur true dosage is. Best not to use it.
test deconate and iso has longer half life than any of them. And probably better all around. However ive not used it as a single compound before. Its already an ingredient of sustanon abd because sustanon is superior in mass I have reason to believe its probably superior to cyp. Ill be running it as a solo compound probably next year to find out for myself. All short esters have bad pip (for me) I hate them. Thats why I always reccomend people to run a test only cycle with a few different esters so u can find the one that best suits you. The one that yields best results vs sides. Then youll know your (go to) test for every cycle afterwards

Pharma Lady has Test Iso as a single ester... I have a few vials that I'm going to try in the future to compare to Cyp

 

[cmb5017]

Re: RE: Re: testosterone preferences

There is s big difference between any ester. I dont care what anybody says. Its all user specific though. Here is. How I base them based on how they react to my body.
cyp is the best. Low acne low water retention and no pip
Enanthate sucks. High acne high water retention. So bad to me I stopped using it altogether.
Sustanon best mass builder. Pip is moderate. Its worse if u dose more than one cc.
Prop sucks ass. Pip is very high. Will not use it as a test base.
blended test sucks ass. High pip. Never know what ur true dosage is. Best not to use it.
test deconate and iso has longer half life than any of them. And probably better all around. However ive not used it as a single compound before. Its already an ingredient of sustanon abd because sustanon is superior in mass I have reason to believe its probably superior to cyp. Ill be running it as a solo compound probably next year to find out for myself. All short esters have bad pip (for me) I hate them. Thats why I always reccomend people to run a test only cycle with a few different esters so u can find the one that best suits you. The one that yields best results vs sides. Then youll know your (go to) test for every cycle afterwards

Pharma Lady has Test Iso as a single ester... I have a few vials that I'm going to try in the future to compare to Cyp

Yea im gona try her iso as well. .I have a feeling its better than cyp..but only one way to find out lol

 

[cbbram00]

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: testosterone preferences

There is s big difference between any ester. I dont care what anybody says. Its all user specific though. Here is. How I base them based on how they react to my body.
cyp is the best. Low acne low water retention and no pip
Enanthate sucks. High acne high water retention. So bad to me I stopped using it altogether.
Sustanon best mass builder. Pip is moderate. Its worse if u dose more than one cc.
Prop sucks ass. Pip is very high. Will not use it as a test base.
blended test sucks ass. High pip. Never know what ur true dosage is. Best not to use it.
test deconate and iso has longer half life than any of them. And probably better all around. However ive not used it as a single compound before. Its already an ingredient of sustanon abd because sustanon is superior in mass I have reason to believe its probably superior to cyp. Ill be running it as a solo compound probably next year to find out for myself. All short esters have bad pip (for me) I hate them. Thats why I always reccomend people to run a test only cycle with a few different esters so u can find the one that best suits you. The one that yields best results vs sides. Then youll know your (go to) test for every cycle afterwards

Pharma Lady has Test Iso as a single ester... I have a few vials that I'm going to try in the future to compare to Cyp

Yea im gona try her iso as well. .I have a feeling its better than cyp..but only one way to find out lol

Test Iso is only 100mg/ml so keep that in mind

 

[DylanGemelli]

here is a video i did that goes in detail on testosterone esters... this should cover a lot of the questions you have...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rGOxyIb5CM

 

[Childsplay]

Thanks . I just like to see the preferences people have.

 

[drb_iac]

Thanks . I just like to see the preferences people have.

My preference is the ones that are not fake. I have tried all of them and they are all the same. This is bro science and real science combined.The difference between how they make you feel are subtle and you have to be paying attention to perceive them. I have done test acetate, prop, sus ,E and cyp, ....multiple times...and my favorite is the one in my hand at the time. Now that I can put together any combo that I want, I prefer sus, mixed with E.
I also will throw in a little story about E. In the early days the USA never made any test, yet the europeans did and it was E. Years latter the USA came out with cyp. I won't go into why cyp,but you can read up on it. So then when Arnold hit the scence, with sergio also hitting the scene it was looking like the two biggest monsters to ever walk the earth. Naturally all the bros were itching to know what these guys used. It was found that arnold AND sergio used E, so everybody wanted E. It had to be the best if arnold used it.Well arnold is a european, and E is all arnold knew. So there was not some big magical thing about E.Then as time went on bros realized that cyp was just as good. Then when sus hit the market it was supposed to ony need injection every 9 days. Then bros said, well if I do it every 3 days then I have an edge over the chumps using E and cyp. Then as time goes on I think that everyone took my attitude...the best one is the one that I have on hand.
So really...asking this question today means not nearly what it meant years ago.
Pick a card...any card...pick a test any test. Of course taking into the equation of the very short chains. You really may or may not like them.

 

[Childsplay]

Thanks drb_iac love the history

 

[RickRock]

Thanks . I just like to see the preferences people have.

My preference is the ones that are not fake. I have tried all of them and they are all the same. This is bro science and real science combined.The difference between how they make you feel are subtle and you have to be paying attention to perceive them. I have done test acetate, prop, sus ,E and cyp, ....multiple times...and my favorite is the one in my hand at the time. Now that I can put together any combo that I want, I prefer sus, mixed with E.
I also will throw in a little story about E. In the early days the USA never made any test, yet the europeans did and it was E. Years latter the USA came out with cyp. I won't go into why cyp,but you can read up on it. So then when Arnold hit the scence, with sergio also hitting the scene it was looking like the two biggest monsters to ever walk the earth. Naturally all the bros were itching to know what these guys used. It was found that arnold AND sergio used E, so everybody wanted E. It had to be the best if arnold used it.Well arnold is a european, and E is all arnold knew. So there was not some big magical thing about E.Then as time went on bros realized that cyp was just as good. Then when sus hit the market it was supposed to ony need injection every 9 days. Then bros said, well if I do it every 3 days then I have an edge over the chumps using E and cyp. Then as time goes on I think that everyone took my attitude...the best one is the one that I have on hand.
So really...asking this question today means not nearly what it meant years ago.
Pick a card...any card...pick a test any test. Of course taking into the equation of the very short chains. You really may or may not like them.

This right here is perfect, and the absolute truth. You can't expect different results when the compound is the same. The literal only difference is the ester chain attached.

 

[TX TERROR]

I run sust in all cycles and use it for my cruise as well. Never really considered it till someone told me to just try it. I havnt gone back since.

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[cbbram00]

Re: RE: Re: testosterone preferences

I run sust in all cycles and use it for my cruise as well. Never really considered it till someone told me to just try it. I havnt gone back since.

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How do you cruise with it? 250 once a week?

 

[PHURIOUS]

I run sust in all cycles and use it for my cruise as well. Never really considered it till someone told me to just try it. I havnt gone back since.

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How do you cruise with it? 250 once a week?

Ya it is doable or 125 twice a week to keep blood saturation level


PHURIOUS PHARMA

 

[cbbram00]

I'm currently running Cyp but Sust definitely has me thinking about the future

 

[PHURIOUS]

Either one is optimal for cruising. Id lean more towads cyp tho. Inject every 6-7 days


PHURIOUS PHARMA

 

[TX TERROR]

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: testosterone preferences

I run sust in all cycles and use it for my cruise as well. Never really considered it till someone told me to just try it. I havnt gone back since.

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How do you cruise with it? 250 once a week?

75mg 3 times a week.

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[RickRock]

Either one is optimal for cruising. Id lean more towads cyp tho. Inject every 6-7 days


PHURIOUS PHARMA

This is exactly my thinking. Keep it simple. test C once per week, and done when you are cruising, and blood levels stay very stable because of the 8 day half life. I've had bloods done 6 days post injection while cruising with results coming back around 900. That is perfect.

 

[cbbram00]

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: testosterone preferences

I run sust in all cycles and use it for my cruise as well. Never really considered it till someone told me to just try it. I havnt gone back since.

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How do you cruise with it? 250 once a week?

75mg 3 times a week.

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Yeah that's too much pinning for a cruise... Now blasting I don't mind...

 

[cmb5017]

When organon invented sustonon in the 70, s its original purpose was to be a trt medication injected once every 3 weeks. The short esters were to jump start it and the extremely long esters kept it going. Its still the largest prescribed trt regiment in Eastern countries. Im cruising on it now at 150mg a week (sust 300 from phurious) and its fine. One injection a week. Half a cc.