Test questions

[chelades]

Fair call. I'm in Melbourne, Australia.

 

[RickRock]

500mg solo too much for a first cycle? Hasn't it been the staple intro cycle for decades?

We've got to keep in mind that everyone is different in the way they react to test, and also that we're talking UGL for the most part. 500mg UG isn't 500mg Pharma.

There are guys out there running 200 - 250mg just to get to TRT dose numbers, and guys running 750mg - a gram just to get the numbers 500mg would give someone else.

Having said that though I'm eager to see these bloods to assess just how potent or bunk this stuff I'm using is, and how I've reacted to it.

I'd figured way too much BA in the mix and that my body just isn't a fan of it.

Again guys, AM NOT IN THE UNITED STATES. It'll just get pinched at customs and would be wasted money. But in agreement that I'll have to find a new local source if this is garbage.

500mg is not a dose people should start at in my opinion. It's a dose you work up to over time through several cycles like jake pointed out.

250-300 is sufficient to make incredible gains for a first cycle,mane then bumping it 50-100 for the next cycle, etc...

And when it comes to UGL versus Pharma, if you have a legit source, they will be identical. All of our sources here are top notch, so that's not a concern at all


(PM me for a price list for Biotech Labs and 10% discount)

 

[chelades]

I definitely understand the reasoning, though I was also coming on as the beginning of TRT.

My natural levels are shot to hell (300 even on a good day) thanks to a pituitary problem. And I'd seen so many guys on the forums struggling to even make normal mid-average numbers on a typical TRT dose, having been so low so long.

I actually started this cycle planning to go 250mg believe it or not. But after two pins of 125mg(ish) I felt worse than natty. As if I was shutting down, but what I was pinning wasn't enough to overcome it. So I knee-jerked and then just jumped to 250mg twice a week. Again, not the brightest idea as my body was probably finally adjusting to the exogenous test and then I pummelled in double dose again, which is why my E2 skyrocketed. But we do some silly things when we over-analyze.

Cracked my new vial open today also. ZERO PIP so far into the right delt.

 

[Jake]

500mg is not a dose people should start at in my opinion. It's a dose you work up to over time through several cycles like jake pointed out.

250-300 is sufficient to make incredible gains for a first cycle,mane then bumping it 50-100 for the next cycle, etc...

And when it comes to UGL versus Pharma, if you have a legit source, they will be identical. All of our sources here are top notch, so that's not a concern at all


(PM me for a price list for Biotech Labs and 10% discount)

Rickrock-who is his best bet to get to Australia?