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Test/estrogen/sex drive question

Dylan wheres the liquicaber on sarmsx :p
Caber is not sold at sarmsx and never will be. Caber is not stable in liquid form. You need to get the tabs or caps from one of our sources. Biotech has it so let me know if you need a price list

(PM me for a price list for Biotech Labs and 10% discount)
 
Never heard of the pruriens before. How long did it take for those to work? Not sure if the doc will prescribe caber since its just at the tip of the range.

My estrogen never even got outta the 40's with exemestane 12.5mg ED for almost a month.

I don't get why normal ranges have so many differences in different labs and then if you come to somewhere like here, recommended ranges are drastically different than what any labs ranges will say.

Like Cabergoline, L Dopa is a dopamine antagonist (which balances Prolactin like a seesaw). And within the first few capsules I imagine. I just grab a bottle and run it, and within a few days start feeling good. That blood test result was after about just over a month on it.

Because there's "normal" ranges (which are so generic and generally wrong as to class too many people into one basket, regardless of age, sex, fitness, health etc), then there's an "ideal" range, then there's somebody's own "personal" ideal range.

For example, I stated E2 feels good at 18 - 28. That's what most steroid using, TRT using crowd have reported to feel best on. This demographic makes up a very small % of people worldwide. And yet, even within that small group, there are people (on this very forum) who feel best with their E2 at 35 - 45. Everyone's different.

And hormones are still only very new. Synthetically they've only been in discovery for the past 50 years. That's a pin drop in the ocean if you believe humans have existed for 6 million years. These ranges are already outdated. Most were created back when the doctor would be discussing this stuff with a cigarette in his mouth (and that was considered the norm, with no ill effects).
So you can imagine how fruitful it would be to point out that even though you're "in a normal range" for hormones, you can still feel like utter shit. You don't want normal or good. You want to be in the BEST range possible, and even then they fluctuate all day long. Fun.
Haha
 
Like Cabergoline, L Dopa is a dopamine antagonist (which balances Prolactin like a seesaw). And within the first few capsules I imagine. I just grab a bottle and run it, and within a few days start feeling good. That blood test result was after about just over a month on it.

Because there's "normal" ranges (which are so generic and generally wrong as to class too many people into one basket, regardless of age, sex, fitness, health etc), then there's an "ideal" range, then there's somebody's own "personal" ideal range.

For example, I stated E2 feels good at 18 - 28. That's what most steroid using, TRT using crowd have reported to feel best on. This demographic makes up a very small % of people worldwide. And yet, even within that small group, there are people (on this very forum) who feel best with their E2 at 35 - 45. Everyone's different.

And hormones are still only very new. Synthetically they've only been in discovery for the past 50 years. That's a pin drop in the ocean if you believe humans have existed for 6 million years. These ranges are already outdated. Most were created back when the doctor would be discussing this stuff with a cigarette in his mouth (and that was considered the norm, with no ill effects).
So you can imagine how fruitful it would be to point out that even though you're "in a normal range" for hormones, you can still feel like utter shit. You don't want normal or good. You want to be in the BEST range possible, and even then they fluctuate all day long. Fun.
Haha

Another solid post from you brother. I appreciate all of the info you provide
 
Like Cabergoline, L Dopa is a dopamine antagonist (which balances Prolactin like a seesaw). And within the first few capsules I imagine. I just grab a bottle and run it, and within a few days start feeling good. That blood test result was after about just over a month on it.

Because there's "normal" ranges (which are so generic and generally wrong as to class too many people into one basket, regardless of age, sex, fitness, health etc), then there's an "ideal" range, then there's somebody's own "personal" ideal range.

For example, I stated E2 feels good at 18 - 28. That's what most steroid using, TRT using crowd have reported to feel best on. This demographic makes up a very small % of people worldwide. And yet, even within that small group, there are people (on this very forum) who feel best with their E2 at 35 - 45. Everyone's different.

And hormones are still only very new. Synthetically they've only been in discovery for the past 50 years. That's a pin drop in the ocean if you believe humans have existed for 6 million years. These ranges are already outdated. Most were created back when the doctor would be discussing this stuff with a cigarette in his mouth (and that was considered the norm, with no ill effects).
So you can imagine how fruitful it would be to point out that even though you're "in a normal range" for hormones, you can still feel like utter shit. You don't want normal or good. You want to be in the BEST range possible, and even then they fluctuate all day long. Fun.
Haha


very nice post bro... great info.. im very intrigued on the prolactin control here... i have not personally tried this but im definitely going to be testing this soon...
 
Why the body gotta be so complex! Well I'm waiting to hear from them on DHT and see what he says about the results. In the meantime, I might try to find those pruriens and see if thats any help. Thanks for all he info so far!
 
Why the body gotta be so complex! Well I'm waiting to hear from them on DHT and see what he says about the results. In the meantime, I might try to find those pruriens and see if thats any help. Thanks for all he info so far!


i would definitely give them a shot... the body is far more complex than you even think bro... you know, you take classes etc.. anatomy, physiology, kinesiology, etc... all of them... ive taken them all and they are musts if your going to be in this industry but what you find is that although the facts are the facts, each person is so different in so many ways... there are things we all have etc... but there are so many different reactions, genetics, etc... each individual person has his/her special structure, make up, etc... its extremely complex from person to person but it doesn't have to be either... you just have to be wise in how you do things, know your limits, adapt and move forward...
 
very nice post bro... great info.. im very intrigued on the prolactin control here... i have not personally tried this but im definitely going to be testing this soon...

Cheers Dylan, definitely give it a crack mate.

I wouldn't think it was potent enough to use L-Dopa on an actual Nandro cycle, but then again I've not tried it myself. Would be interesting to see how it compares.
 
Why the body gotta be so complex! Well I'm waiting to hear from them on DHT and see what he says about the results. In the meantime, I might try to find those pruriens and see if thats any help. Thanks for all he info so far!

Definitely won't hurt to give it a shot. It can only help you
 
So, the urologist called and said the DHT levels were right around the middle of the normal range of 100-900 at 455. What do you guys think?

Also, he mentioned he talked to an endo about the prolactin levels jut being slightly out of the normal range at 15.28, he wants to test it again to see if it leads toward the 10-15 or 15-20 range.
 
So, the urologist called and said the DHT levels were right around the middle of the normal range of 100-900 at 455. What do you guys think?

Also, he mentioned he talked to an endo about the prolactin levels jut being slightly out of the normal range at 15.28, he wants to test it again to see if it leads toward the 10-15 or 15-20 range.

DHT sounds fine to me then bud. That's right about where you need to be
 
Yep that's all good. So heading forward, if you lower the E2, lower the SHBG (and hence free up some testosterone) and lower the Prolactin - many of which should happen at once - you should be on the way to feeling much better.
 
Yep that's all good. So heading forward, if you lower the E2, lower the SHBG (and hence free up some testosterone) and lower the Prolactin - many of which should happen at once - you should be on the way to feeling much better.
Agreed 100% :)

(PM me for a price list for Biotech Labs and 10% discount)
 
Yep that's all good. So heading forward, if you lower the E2, lower the SHBG (and hence free up some testosterone) and lower the Prolactin - many of which should happen at once - you should be on the way to feeling much better.

Sounds good. Finally a good reading for something! LOL.

Aromasin/exemestane didn't work for lowering estrogen much, but it did boost total T by a lot; meaning its stopping the conversion, but somehow the amount of estrogen is staying in the 40's, weird.

If prolactin goes down, will that affect the SHBG levels? I wouldn't think it would, but not sure.

Also, theres nothing that's specifically made for lowering SHBG that I could get right? I'm thinking that free test is the main issue here also.
 
It's more E2 that will do it all in one go. If you lower the E2, the Prolactin will typically fall in the process, and you'll have more Test floating around, which inevitably will lower the SHBG and free up more of it. In reverse, lowering SHBG can also spur this on.

Yes, there is. Purer forms of DHT, like Masteron and Proviron lower SHBG. Though you shouldn't run either without Testosterone. Esterized Synthetic Testosterone in itself can lower SHBG if you inject it - such as on TRT or on cycle.

Proviron being quite weak, some do run it by itself between cycles etc, but I'm just of the personal opinion that one shouldn't.
 
It's more E2 that will do it all in one go. If you lower the E2, the Prolactin will typically fall in the process, and you'll have more Test floating around, which inevitably will lower the SHBG and free up more of it. In reverse, lowering SHBG can also spur this on.

Yes, there is. Purer forms of DHT, like Masteron and Proviron lower SHBG. Though you shouldn't run either without Testosterone. Esterized Synthetic Testosterone in itself can lower SHBG if you inject it - such as on TRT or on cycle.

Proviron being quite weak, some do run it by itself between cycles etc, but I'm just of the personal opinion that one shouldn't.

Yep, it's E2 control that really affects everything. Prolactin itself requires aromatization of estrogen to be created, so keeping that estrogen in the right range usually aLevitates that issue all together
 
Hmm, well I don't think I want to do a steroid cycle just to lower estrogen or SHBG either.

Since I was taking 12.5 mg exemestane ED, do you think it would be beneficial to do 25 mg ED? Or do you think that would be too high of a dose? I know some people jump to higher doses when something isn't working, but I value my health lol. I know its only an estrogen blocker, but still just want to make sure. When I did 12.5 ED, my total test was 1104, but I literally felt nothing different than when I was at 585 originally.
 
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