Posted because I'm open to any advice as long as it's comprehensive. Seen a lot of your videos Dylan, and I value your opinion. The cycle I posted, is one I thought would be the most effective for my goals. Test tren mast and winstrol. However, the reason I ask questions is because I realize I don't want to learn any "hard lessons", and want to be smart and safe about it. I was dumb when I bought prohormones and did a month of winstrol with test. But, I had zero sides and felt great. If i do run this, I would plan on it being my last. So I wanted to do it right. Just trying to see if that cycle would be effective, and safe (as possible) or not and what i could do to improve that.
Test E/Tren A/ Mast/ Winny cycle
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i like your attitude bro and your very respectful which does nothing but earn you respect and im not trying to be a dick in any way man... the cycle is great, there's not a thing wrong with the selection... the problem is your age... there's nothing you can do to change that nor change my stance... just because i like you does not mean im going to tell you what you want to hear... if i didnt give a fuck, i would just tell you what you wanted but your making a severe and huge mistake using steroids at your age
bro, i could care less what any ifbb guys are doing... it doesnt make it right but it does ensure many problems as you get into your 30's and on, so if you want to follow the path of the "ifbb guys" then by all means, go for it but im certainly never going to recommend it... plus you are NOT in your mid 20s...
Thanks a lot Dylan. Appreciate your honesty. I'm glad the cycle is good because I actually did think about it quite a bit. Honestly, I just want to be as lean as you are, and still be around 190 pounds of muscle. I've always had abs, but never a full set running with veins and paper thin skin which would be awesome. I just loved how I felt on the test E and winstrol too, but never dieted to cut because of football and needing to stay fast and strong.
Knowing my age is the main problem, what exactly is the issue with running this at my age? assuming I protect and recover well and properly.
Knowing my age is the main problem, what exactly is the issue with running this at my age? assuming I protect and recover well and properly.
brother you are FAR from dumb... young, yes, but dumb, not a chance... i dont see one thing stupid about you.. you made a poor choice but we all do... i just dont want you to further the damage... when you use steroids this young, you are throwing your hormones into a haywire state... the problem is they are not even close to fully developed... when you do this, you never give yourself a chance to develop properly and your body is beyond confused... its one thing after your have finished your internal growth process but when you have not, it will cause you tremendous issues as you get older and im sure you enjoy your time with women for example and that could be an issue for you later and trust me, thats only one of the problems but that alone should be a wake up call... i can certainly help you with other options but i would never ethically recommend this use to anyone your age
Thanks. What would other options be? I would absolutely want to make sure my time with women would not later become an issue. Or anything. Not worth it. Just thought with proper recovery it would be ok. Is there anything I can do to be sure that I do not suffer any of those issues from before? Even though I feel fine now like I recovered 100 percent. and never experienced any sides except feeling like the strongest baddest dude around (ie test feeling).
running steroids this young pretty much assures you significant problems in the future and libido will be one of the main ones... i cant imagine anyone wanting that issue... i had it ONE time when i ran tren and deca and i would do anything to never feel like that again... talk about depressing... i had never encountered anything like that and trust me, once was enough but what you would be doing would cause that to be a big problem throughout and you do NOT want that...
if you are not familiar with sarms, start by reading my articles here... https://www.isarms.com/selective-androgen-receptor-modulators
sarms have steroid like results without the side effects..
watch my videos comparing sarms to steroids...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGXpf6HyCyk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrbT552__wI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWkzqXl2bqk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COQDRJpdkVU
I know exactly what your feeling because i started at 22 and had that, idc i want gains now because i thought i reached my genetic potentional, but now i look back and wish i started 25-26 so i had a nice foundation to build on, don't do it, you may not think it now, but you will regret it later. coming from personal experience , you may be reading this thinking, fuck does this retard know... i thought the same shit, just trust us man, wait 2-3 more years doing it naturally then if you want, hit the juice
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Thanks. I honestly think at that time I might be over it, and be okay with not being 7 percent body fat and jacked. It's just sweet to have that especially for shit like college girls and spring break and stuff. head turning, no fluff, thin skin type of physiques. But id rather be safe. Stay around 10% and just stay healthy.
Sarms sound great by all of those videos... And not to be rude in any way but doesn't that seem a little too good to be true? also I had a couple questions if not.
1. Arent sarms suppressive?
2. If they are, wouldn't that affect my hormones at this age as well and cause libido problems or development issues?
3. I know you own/run many of the sights that sell Sarms. Do you see how I could possibly be weary of that seeing many of these threads as a perfect marketing tool? Not trying to sound rude. Just is an honest thought.
1. Arent sarms suppressive?
2. If they are, wouldn't that affect my hormones at this age as well and cause libido problems or development issues?
3. I know you own/run many of the sights that sell Sarms. Do you see how I could possibly be weary of that seeing many of these threads as a perfect marketing tool? Not trying to sound rude. Just is an honest thought.
1. minimal at best
2. as i said minimal at best and no, its NOTHING like steroids
3. first off, i dont run, own etc. any sites that sell sarms... bro, dont use them then... i get so tired of some out there that say things like that... just stick with what you were going to do... thats' the thanks i get for sitting here for an hour going back and forth with you... just do what you planned... i dont need that type of shit at all... good luck bro... i do like your attitude so you will do well in the short term...
Hey man I'm sorry. It was just an honest question. I just always hear isarms.com or n2bm.com you know? I am not questioning your integrity at all, I believe you. I absolutely appreciate you going back and forth with me. I am not going to do what I had planned, and would like to run the sarms. I just thought you would need a pct with sarms.
you only need a mini pct with sarms... btw, working for ntbm turned out to be a mistake that i admitted for years and everyone understands and has moved on... noone is perfect and although i was misled i could have made better choices but i owned up to every last one of them and ate a lot of crow over it but i deserved it and we moved on...
with sarms, the mini pct is just assurance more so than anything... suppression is very minimal and half of them have NONE... what is your MAIN goal and i can help you set up a cycle...
Really apologize for question number 3 there man. Did not mean to offend or give you any bullshit. You're an awesome help and a good dude from what I've seen and talking to you. I just want to be safe and healthy as I can, and at the same time make sure I'm spending my money on the right things. I think maybe Ostarine and S4 would be good and similar results to my goals? I really do appreciate your help brother. Hope I didnt turn you away by that question.
its all good, we are fine bro... i get over things at the snap of a finger... im not one of those weak fucks that sits here and cries over a comment but i very much appreciate the apology... we are good...
okay, with your goals, we can do a straight to the point stack here... a simple recomp stack will be perfect for you.. its tried and true and can definitely help you to surpass your goals...
here are the links for everything you need followed by the layout...
https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/recomp-stack-12-weeks-2
https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=138&search=mini
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout and non workout days, all at once in the a.m.
9-12 d aspartic acid
Mini pct 13-16
clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day
