Test E/Tren A/ Mast/ Winny cycle

[12345]

I was hoping I could get some input to this cycle! Done a lot of research for over a year now about this and am putting the final touches on it. I am on a lower budget, but I am wondering if I should run Mast E the whole time, or winny at the beginning and end, or both. Any input is valued. Thanks!

Pretty much, test e around 300 a week, tren about 400-500, and mast 400? with winny for the first 4 weeks and last 6 weeks.


Week 1
Test E- 1000mgs (front load)
Mast E- 800mgs
Win- 50mg/day
Aromasin-25mg/day
Dostinex- .5mg e3d
N2 Guard- 7caps/day

week 2 and 3
Test E- 500 mgs
Mast E- 400mgs
Win- 50mg/day
Aromasin-25mg/day
Dostinex- .5mg e3d
N2 Guard- 7caps/day

week 4-13
Test E- 300mgs
Tren A- 400mg
Mast E- 400mg
Win- 50mg/day
Aromasin- 12.5 mg/day
Dostinex- .5mg e3d
N2 Guard- 7caps/day

weeks 12-16
HCG 1000iu/week
Aromasin- 12.5 mg/day
Dostinex- .5mg e3d
N2 Guard- 7caps/day

PCT

weeks 16-18

HCG 1500/week
Aromasin- 12.5 mg/day
Dostinex- .5mg e3d
N2 Guard- 7caps/day

weeks 18-22
Nolva 40/20/20/20/10
Clomid 50/50/25/25/12.5
Aromasin- 12.5 mg/day
Dostinex- .5mg e3d
N2 Guard- 7caps/day

 

[JackSteel]

Yeah that file didn't transfer right at all. Can you post up stats, experience, age etc please so we can give you good advice?

 

[DylanGemelli]

I was hoping I could get some input to this cycle! Done a lot of research for over a year now about this and am putting the final touches on it. I am on a lower budget, but I am wondering if I should run Mast E the whole time, or winny at the beginning and end, or both. Any input is valued. Thanks! Sorry about the bad excel file transfer. But from left to right the dosages are as listed at the top of the pasted chart. Test, tren, mast, winny, aromasin, caber, hcg, nolva, clomid, n2 guard.


Test E (mgs) Tren A (mgs) Mast E (mgs) Winstrol (mgs/day) Aromasin(mg/day) Dostinex mg e3d HCG (iu/wk divided into 2 shots) Nolva Clomid n2 guard (caps/day)


1 1000 0 800 50 25 0.5 0 0 0 7
2 500 0 400 50 25 0.5 250 0 0 7
3 500 0 400 50 25 0.5 250 0 0 7
4 300 400 400 50 12.5 0.5 0 0 0 7
5 300 400 400 0 12.5 1 0 0 0 7
6 300 400 400 0 12.5 1 250 0 0 7
7 300 400 400 0 12.5 1 250 0 0 7
8 300 500 400 0 12.5 1 0 0 0 7
9 300 500 400 0 12.5 1.5 500 0 0 7
10 300 500 400 50 12.5 1.5 0 0 0 7
11 300 600 400 50 12.5 1.5 0 0 0 7
12 300 500 400 50 12.5 1.5 1000 0 0 7
13 200 400 400 50 12.5 1.5 1000 0 0 7
14 0 0 0 50 12.5 1 1000 0 0 7
15 0 0 0 50 12.5 1 1000 0 0 7
16 0 0 0 0 12.5 1 1500 0 0 7
17 0 0 0 0 12.5 1 1500 0 0 7
18 0 0 0 0 12.5 0.5 0 40 50 7
19 0 0 0 0 12.5 0.5 0 20 50 7
20 0 0 0 0 12.5 0.5 0 20 25 7
21 0 0 0 0 12.5 0.5 0 20 25 7
22 0 0 0 0 12.5 0.5 0 10 12.5 7

im sorry but i have no clue how you can say you have done research for a year and come up with this mess... this is a huge mess... you want to run test at 1000 mg per week week 1?? and tren at 800? bro, please dont come with that front loading garbage... that is pointless.. also, your mast dose is too low... tren does not need to exceed 400 mg per week.. the way you have laid this out is also not the best way to ask for help... its seriously strenuous on the eyes and a lot of people are probably just going to skip it...

regardless, how many cycles have you ran in the past??? what are your stats?? age/height/weight/body fat??? what are your goals?

 

[12345]

Yeah tren is at 0 for the first 3 weeks then hits 400 a week. I'll try to post the cycle so it's easier to read. Copying and pasting did not work correctly.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Yeah tren is at 0 for the first 3 weeks then hits 400 a week. I'll try to post the cycle so it's easier to read. Copying and pasting did not work correctly.

well at least that makes more sense... yes, please just write it out simpler and please answer the other questions i asked about stats and history

 

[12345]

Hopefully that's a little better. Im 5'9 195 10%bf. Bench 350 squat 490 clean 315. Playing football in college, senior year, after the season my goals are to get to 7-8% body fat and add 5-10 so pounds of lean mass.

 

[12345]

I have run a prohormone cycle in the past with pct. I have also run a test E, winny cycle in the past with pct. Looking to do this one right, and if I'm gonna spend the time/money to get the best bang for my buck and not half ass it. Don't plan on running many more cycles after this.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Hopefully that's a little better. Im 5'9 195 10%bf. Bench 350 squat 490 clean 315. Playing football in college, senior year, after the season my goals are to get to 7-8% body fat and add 5-10 so pounds of lean mass.

how old are you and how many cycles have you ran?

 

[DylanGemelli]

yes, thats much better by the way , at least in terms of reading it... not the cycle itself

 

[cmb5017]

This is what I see...
Don't frontload that's bro science..and your tapering down-don't..use one dose and stick with it. Winny should finish Ur cycle not kick start it.
And n2gaurd? If u already have it use it, but if not buy a better product like cel cycle assist

 

[12345]

Yeah sorry about that. I replied to Dylan with some stats and updated the thread with a clearer cycle.

 

[Tazz]

how many cycles have you ran before ? this cycle you just said isn't for a beginner what so ever. and don't use N2guard, use something better like rich pianas cycle support


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[12345]

Okay thanks. Wasnt sure if winny was good at the beginning or not. I will definitely look into cel cycle assist. I havent got any of the stuff yet. Front loading is not useful with enenthate esters? If not, I'll stick with one dose of test.

 

[cmb5017]

All Frontloading will do is bring sides on quicker

 

[12345]

2 cycles. 22 years old. Senior in college.

 

[12345]

Ok thanks.

 

[12345]

Ran two. Just wanna run tren and include either mast or winny to shred up and do it right. Have caber and aromisin included for sure.

 

[DylanGemelli]

wow, 22 years old, already two cycles and now you want to run tren... im sorry but your going to have an impossible time finding anyone with any credibility or care recommending any sort of steroid use to you at 22... 2 cycles already.. man you are going to learn a very hard lesson... its very unfortunate

 

[12345]

Prohormones was 4 weeks, then test E and winny was the 4 weeks after that. So really, one cycle. Two total months... Low dosages.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Prohormones was 4 weeks, then test E and winny was the 4 weeks after that. So really, one cycle. Two total months... Low dosages.

actually no, its 2 cycles, regardless of doses or what was ran... you shouldn't be using ANY steroid until your mid 20's and thats honesty even too soon...