TBol at 75mg to much?

[21infantry]

Okay so TBol and me have a love affair. I just respond to it so well. So the past three times I ran it at 50mg with no sides, slightly elevated enzymes that went down to normal in a week or so. So I was thinking of running it at 75mg this go round for four weeks and 5 days. If you can run drol at 100mg for experienced user which is much more toxic then TBol, why can't you run that dose of TBol. Why I want to run it this high is that East German studies showed that TBol actually was one of the very few steroids that kept giving purportinated gains to side effects. Meaning that the law diminishing returns didn't apply to TBol until around 125mg a day. What ya think?

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[DylanGemelli]

Okay so TBol and me have a love affair. I just respond to it so well. So the past three times I ran it at 50mg with no sides, slightly elevated enzymes that went down to normal in a week or so. So I was thinking of running it at 75mg this go round for four weeks and 5 days. If you can run drol at 100mg for experienced user which is much more toxic then TBol, why can't you run that dose of TBol. Why I want to run it this high is that East German studies showed that TBol actually was one of the very few steroids that kept giving purportinated gains to side effects. Meaning that the law diminishing returns didn't apply to TBol until around 125mg a day. What ya think?

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you CAN run it whatever you like.. i personally wouldnt do it.. ive seen a few of my good friends run it at 75 and 100 and not only did they feel like shit but they also had a very fucked up blood panel.. one in particular thought he could do 100 mg and i told him not to do it over and over.. this was 3 years ago... he ended up having all sorts of issues... he was so lethargic from the liver stress he couldn't do shit... your comparing doses of different compounds.. if thats the case, why can't you run deca at 800 mg if you run primo and eq that high or tren at 800? they are DIFFERENT so saying you can run anadrol at 100 means nothing in terms of tbol... you can go for it if you want... you asked what others thought.... i personally would not run it that high.. not at all... you may get away with it, who knows? trial and error if you want to go that high but you dont generally see it ran there, if ever, for a reason... just like winstrol.. you going to run that at 100 just because you run anadrol there? or dbol, you going to run that at 100?? FUCK NO.. not a chance.. you should not even run it at 50... so basing it on other compounds holds no merit... just see how you respond if your intent on trying it... some people can get away with more than others

 

[TIN MAN]

This is the research I can up with 21
The maximum blood concen-tration of Oral-Turinabol when taking 10, 20 or 40 mg/day is 1.5 -3.5 or 4.5 times the endogenous testosterone concentration . This clearly shows that the effectiveness of this compound strongly depends on the dosage. 0.4 x pound (body weight) x days = number of tablets to take overall during the interval of intake mg / tablet An athlete weighing 200 pounds would take only 4 tablets of 5 mg (20mg/day.) In our experience bodybuilders take 8-10 tablets of 5 mg, that is 40-50 mg/day

 

[21infantry]

Hmmmmm, I'm in a cross roads here. As you all know I'm very conservative in dosing. But curiousity has me wondering can I handle it. I just love TBol so much. Is this the time I learn if I can handle 75mg a day for a little more gains or do i stick with my traditional dosing.

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[DylanGemelli]

Hmmmmm, I'm in a cross roads here. As you all know I'm very conservative in dosing. But curiousity has me wondering can I handle it. I just love TBol so much. Is this the time I learn if I can handle 75mg a day for a little more gains or do i stick with my traditional dosing.

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noone can answer that for you... let me just tell you this... in my experience, every single time i have gotten greedy with dosing orals, i regretted it... every fucking time i go over recommended amounts.. i did bump anadrol to 100 but i was fine but when i have pushed others past normal protocols, i have had to learn a lesson but when you are curious, sometimes you just need to find out yourself... noone can really tell you what to do... like i said, i wouldn't due to my experiences... when you feel like shit from orals, you can barely even workout making the cycle rather pointless...

 

[21infantry]

Good point Dylan, you know how to work on that conservative side of me.

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[DylanGemelli]

Good point Dylan, you know how to work on that conservative side of me.

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that and i know you bro and you hate sides like i do.. i mean we all hate them but i think you know what i mean how me and you are towards them... a different level of hatred... i do anything i can to avoid them all... yes, i could go higher with things but im done ruining damn good cycles getting greedy... i know how you are and i hate to see that happen to you too... i know i get accused of being too conservative but there's a reason for it bro... i just dont want you to have a bad experience and hey, you may not but i just know what normally happens when going too high...

 

[FL1025]

I've only ran it up to 60mg but didn't have any issues so I probably won't go over that

 

[RickRock]

I guess it's a judgement call on your end more than anything. There is a sweet spot for everything on risk versus reward, and I feel once you go over that generally risk rises probably ten fold over reward which kinds makes it not worth it honestly. It goes back to that law of diminished returns thing.

I have ran Winstrol high as well as some other orals and I really didn't see any real perceptible extra benefit but I did notice the side effects.

Tbol is a more mild oral so it might be easier to bump the dosage than others, but you still want to proceed with caution if you decide to


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[21infantry]

I guess it's a judgement call on your end more than anything. There is a sweet spot for everything on risk versus reward, and I feel once you go over that generally risk rises probably ten fold over reward which kinds makes it not worth it honestly. It goes back to that law of diminished returns thing.

I have ran Winstrol high as well as some other orals and I really didn't see any real perceptible extra benefit but I did notice the side effects.

Tbol is a more mild oral so it might be easier to bump the dosage than others, but you still want to proceed with caution if you decide to


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Thanks Rick, and also thanks FL. Great perspectives

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[Dorin76]

that and i know you bro and you hate sides like i do.. i mean we all hate them but i think you know what i mean how me and you are towards them... a different level of hatred... i do anything i can to avoid them all... yes, i could go higher with things but im done ruining damn good cycles getting greedy... i know how you are and i hate to see that happen to you too... i know i get accused of being too conservative but there's a reason for it bro... i just dont want you to have a bad experience and hey, you may not but i just know what normally happens when going too high...

Am glad this was said because if Dylan did not bring it up I would have! As a medical student, I can tell you that over dose on any medication can be worse than you think. If you feel like crap and can not go work out and get the benefits from said medication, then you waste an whole cycle and money goes down drain!!! You can try this and see what happens, but more is not always to mean things will be better!